Safeway Center update

[Tech Head]

Saul Centers finally updated their website with some new tenants for the Safeway Shopping Center,

http://www.saulcenters.com/prop/vaprop/nova/broadlands/broadlandsprop/lp.htm

Mattress Discounters ???????

[chattycat]

Ewwwww....[xx(]

[Tech Head]

Just not the greatest thing to see when you're entering Broadlands...

[tigger]

I agree.

[SK8R]

Their commercials are so annoying. Every week they have another "sale"
for some stupid reason "our mismatch sale", "our summer heat sale" "back to school sale".
I do not want to buy a mattress from them because I hate their commercials!
Yeah, it will be tacky looking. Hopefully they won't last and we can get a Harvest Bread company or something
there on the corner.

[Tech Head]

Let's also hope they don't use those glaring red-lit letters. I haven't seen the signage plan for the shopping center. Let's hope it's tasteful.

[killer_bee]

I am not enthused about the Mattress Discounters... That is just plain trashy. However, I am shocked about the ABC Store. Now that is great for a family-focused community...

killer_bee in broadands, ashburn, virginia

[SK8R]

I never thought I would long for such a thing but... last week-end we were in Williamsburg
bringing the first born to The College of William and Mary... well, hubby and I snuck out of a parent's
meeting and ran to the book store for coffee and doughnuts. (Hey! do you remember how hot it was last Friday? Well, it was hotter in W-burg and we had to move the teenager into her dorm. Whaaa, whine, whine) I had a Krispy Kreme doughnut that was totally yummy. We NEED Krispy Kreme in B-lands.
Doughnuts make people happy!

[jtarnow]

I too am disappointed with Matress Discounters. But why is having an ABC store somehow anti-family? From my experience, ABC stores are 100% more difficult for underage persons to get into that your average bar that fronts as a 'restaurant'.

As a responsible adult who enjoys his Bailey's Irish Cream and other appertifs (sp?), I am grateful I won't have to trek to Sterling any longer!

[JenCo]

FYI..there is an ABC in Ashburn. It's at the "big" Giant in the Ashburn Village shopping center.

quote:Originally posted by jtarnow

I too am disappointed with Matress Discounters. But why is having an ABC store somehow anti-family? From my experience, ABC stores are 100% more difficult for underage persons to get into that your average bar that fronts as a 'restaurant'.

As a responsible adult who enjoys his Bailey's Irish Cream and other appertifs (sp?), I am grateful I won't have to trek to Sterling any longer!

[hberg]

Wonder what the day spa will be offering....also, the dry clearners up here are ridculously expensive!!! Yikes!! the one by Giant fleeced us good. Anyone recommend a dry clearner or tailor that won't break the ole' bank?

I would like to see a 24 hour pharmacy in that safeway! Or a CVS.

[hberg]

quote:Originally posted by JenTimC

FYI..there is an ABC in Ashburn. It's at the "big" Giant in the Ashburn Village shopping center.

quote:Originally posted by jtarnow

I too am disappointed with Matress Discounters. But why is having an ABC store somehow anti-family? From my experience, ABC stores are 100% more difficult for underage persons to get into that your average bar that fronts as a 'restaurant'.

As a responsible adult who enjoys his Bailey's Irish Cream and other appertifs (sp?), I am grateful I won't have to trek to Sterling any longer!

[Wick]

quote:Originally posted by killer_bee

I am not enthused about the Mattress Discounters... That is just plain trashy. However, I am shocked about the ABC Store. Now that is great for a family-focused community...

killer_bee in broadands, ashburn, virginia


While I agree in principle, the ABC is no different than Safeway. After all, Safeway (as well as other grocery stores) offers a large selection of beer and wine. Personally, I feel that alcohol is alcohol, whether it's liquor, beer, or wine.

[shamrox]

Well if the HCA hospital comes here, at least I can use the ABC Store to cope!!!

jtarnow: I clink my Bailey's glass to yours!

[killer_bee]

I guess that my concern about a Broadlands ABC store is the message that it sends to youth. My position on the ABC store is very similar to my stance on the hospital: there are perfectly good ABC stores and a brand new hospital nearby for anyone who needs them, so why put another in OUR community.

killer_bee in broadands, ashburn, virginia

[jtarnow]

Not to cause a major disruption, but under that logic, would you oppose new churches, recreation centers, or child care facilities when there are 'perfectly good' ones near by for anyone who needs them?

I personally would like to see Broadlands develop into a comprehensive community, with the full spectrum of homes, schools/child care offerings, community organizations, small shops, and yes, even the hospital. A thriving 'community' - in my opinion - is more than just a collection of residences. I'm not advocating a city-like environment, but something more than just houses and apartments.


quote:Originally posted by killer_bee

I guess that my concern about a Broadlands ABC store is the message that it sends to youth. My position on the ABC store is very similar to my stance on the hospital: there are perfectly good ABC stores and a brand new hospital nearby for anyone who needs them, so why put another in OUR community.

killer_bee in broadands, ashburn, virginia

[sunnydog]

quote:Originally posted by jtarnow

I personally would like to see Broadlands develop into a comprehensive community, with the full spectrum of homes, schools/child care offerings, community organizations, small shops, and yes, even the hospital. A thriving 'community' - in my opinion - is more than just a collection of residences. I'm not advocating a city-like environment, but something more than just houses and apartments.

Yay jtarnow! Every so often I feel like I've woken up on the set of the Truman Show or as a walk on for The Stepford Wives. Thanks for reminding me that this community is diverse and for [u]appreciating </u>the differences. Cheers to your Bailey's.

[killer_bee]

quote:Originally posted by jtarnow

Not to cause a major disruption, but under that logic, would you oppose new churches, recreation centers, or child care facilities when there are 'perfectly good' ones near by for anyone who needs them?
[/quote]

JT: No objections whatsoever to new churches, but I am indifferent about the rest of your suggestions. We have enough of those close by. However, I would prefer that we keep our community as residential and calm as possible. But an ABC store -- just a bad idea.

killer_bee in broadands, ashburn, virginia

[jtarnow]

Why is an ABC store less "calm" than a Safeway or other retail outlet? An ABC store's hours are limited by state law and it strictly monitor who enters. Have you ever been outside (or worse, inside) a video rental store on a Friday or Saturday evening? Those are anything but calm!!! (But I am sure you wouldn't object to Blockbuster, now would you? :D)


[/quote]

JT: No objections whatsoever to new churches, but I am indifferent about the rest of your suggestions. We have enough of those close by. However, I would prefer that we keep our community as residential and calm as possible. But an ABC store -- just a bad idea.

killer_bee in broadands, ashburn, virginia
[/quote]

[killer_bee]

JT: I've never had any problems with video rental places. Why don't you start an Anti-Blockbuster thread and see if you are labeled a "vocal minority"?[:p]

Now, encouraging people to get drunk -- and that is what an ABC store does -- is a problem.[xx(]


killer_bee in broadands, ashburn, virginia

[sunnydog]

Oh, come on killer_bee and join us for some drinks and we can all have a civilized discussion about crime, healthcare and community planning.
Cheers.[:X]

[jtarnow]

Well killer_bee, I am glad we can both keep this debate in perspective. Obviously we disagree on both alcohol and health care in Broadlands, but we both know which is more important. :)

quote:Originally posted by killer_bee

JT: I've never had any problems with video rental places. Why don't you start an Anti-Blockbuster thread and see if you are labeled a "vocal minority"?[:p]

Now, encouraging people to get drunk -- and that is what an ABC store does -- is a problem.[xx(]


killer_bee in broadands, ashburn, virginia

[killer_bee]

JT and SD: Thank you! I agree that active, civilized (and sometimes heated) debate is part of the democratic process. So, I think that this forum encourages healthy conversation. However, it would be much nicer if everyone just made it simple and agreed with MY views. Come on, that would be the Stepford thing to do, right?

killer_bee in broadands, ashburn, virginia

[Tech Head]

Safeway will be opening in October. There will be a Starbucks Coffee bar inside of the store.

[killer_bee]

quote:Originally posted by Tech Head

There will be a Starbucks Coffee bar inside of the store.


Yippee -- finally, a Starbucks within walking distance. This is something to cheer about! :D

killer_bee in broadands, ashburn, virginia

[Tech Head]

...except that they are Safeway employees running it, not Starbucks employees.

[Tech Head]

I was talking with someone who said that they inquired about leasing space in the shopping center and was told that they are completely leased! Maybe that will speed up construction of Phase 2?!

Also, we received a flyer today from this company which is opening a womens-only workout facility there in October,

http://www.ladiesworkoutexpress.com/index.html

[vacliff]

Tech Head-
I believe that due to the response to leases, Saul is going to immediately begin construction of Phase 2, rather than waiting.
Cliff

[hberg]

I would like to see a gymboree as opposed to the little gym up the street and a 24 hour pharmacy! Bookstore and post office.

[Tech Head]

I wonder if they have leased the two restaurant pad sites. We really need more quality, family-friendly sit-down restaurants in Ashburn.

[killer_bee]

More restaurants would be great -- hopefully something nicer than the Ruby Tuesday that the Village got.

killer_bee in broadands, ashburn, virginia

[hberg]

While smaller owned "family" owned restaurants are a dream, reality is it probably won't happen. A bummer because these places are dying out. I wouldn't mind a crackerbarrel.

[killer_bee]

I'd be happy enough if they just hurried up and put in CLYDES!!! That has taken forever.

killer_bee in broadands, ashburn, virginia

[Tech Head]

Yeah, does anybody know the status of the Clyde's? I see that they are putting an access road in there but I don't know if that's just for the School Administration Building or for Clyde's. There's a rumor floating around that Clyde's is backing out. Weren't they supposed to have started construction by now? Does anybody know for sure?

[vacliff]

Tech Head-
Clyde's is DEFINITELY still coming. They did have a delay because they had to go back to the county for a change in the zoning. They had to rotate the building slightly and the mezzanine level had more square footage than their approval, so that had to be amended. I do agree that the entrance road construction does seem to be moving slowly.
Killer_Bee- seeing that you are so happy about Clyde's, I'm surprised you oppose the hospital. With both, all the drunks driving around our community after leaving Clyde's will have a short ambulance ride to the hospital!
[8D]

[Homer Simpson]

I'm sure you know that Clydes has an excellent bar and makes the best Martini's. I for one look forward to walking to Clydes, having a drink, walking over to Starbucks, get a Caramel Mach, walk over to ABC, make the Carl Mach an Irish Carl Mach, then walk over to Matress Discounters and test out a few matresses. Then when I get all good a liqoured up I can rant at the schoolboard while I walk to Broadlands Hospital. ;)

[killer_bee]

quote:Originally posted by vacliff


Killer_Bee- seeing that you are so happy about Clyde's, I'm surprised you oppose the hospital. With both, all the drunks driving around our community after leaving Clyde's will have a short ambulance ride to the hospital!
[8D]


VACLIFF: With Loudoun Hospital less than five minutes away, the trip is short enough.

killer_bee in broadands, ashburn, virginia

[Tech Head]

The website now says, "Opening November, 2003." By the looks of the progress, I would say some businesses will open before then.

[xianghua71]

I would really rather buy and drink alcohol at home than have to drive 20 miles to get drunk and have to drive back. I don't think Majority of the residents in BL are alcoholics but it is conveniently there if you need it for a party and such.

But Mattress Discounters?? That one i'll drive to Sterling for.


quote:Originally posted by killer_bee

JT: I've never had any problems with video rental places. Why don't you start an Anti-Blockbuster thread and see if you are labeled a "vocal minority"?[:p]

Now, encouraging people to get drunk -- and that is what an ABC store does -- is a problem.[xx(]


killer_bee in broadands, ashburn, virginia

[veronicasmommi]

I would like to make a comment about the ABC store, I do not think it matters whether or not there is
a liquor store in our neighborhood or not, it matters what an individual decides to do. Its an individuals
choice whether to drink or not and its up to us to teach our kids not to. If you do not like a store, just
don't go there. Its as simple as that.

[Butterfly]

I would have to agree. I had a much stronger negative reaction to Mattress Discounters than to the ABC store. I am glad we will have a card/gift shop, I was hoping for a Hallmark but will give this one a chance. Is there a new estimated opening date for Clyde's?

[Tech Head]

Does anybody know if the stoplight that is planned for the Claiborne Pkwy/Broadlands Blvd intersection will be put in prior to the shopping center opening? If it's not, I see some bad accidents waiting to happen there once it opens.

[vacliff]

Tech Head-
Terrabrook was trying to get it installed before the shopping center opens. I'll find out and let you know.
Cliff

[hberg]

I was actually hoping for a stoplight at Claiborne and Waxpool cuz as houses get built, that is going to be a major street. Though having a bunch of stoplights to get to the greenway would not be desirable either.

[jtarnow]

I agree that within the not-so-distant future, a stoplight at Claiborne and Waxpool will also be needed. Trying to cross Waxpool at certain times of morning and evening is getting very treacherous!

Speckhard, in case you don't know, you can also avoid lights (although several stop signs) by turning right off Claiborne (coming out of Southern Walk) and taking Waxpool over to Shellhorn Road, turn right, and then again right on Ryan Road to the Greenway.

But back to the Safeway Center, I think a stoplight at the Claiborne/Broadlands intersection may also help a little with the speeding along Claiborne between Waxpool Road and Ashburn Farm. Let's hope, anyway.

quote:Originally posted by speckhard

I was actually hoping for a stoplight at Claiborne and Waxpool cuz as houses get built, that is going to be a major street. Though having a bunch of stoplights to get to the greenway would not be desirable either.

[vacliff]

A light for Waxpool/Claiborne is also planned in the not too distant future. I will also try to find out about this one as well.
Cliff

[killer_bee]

Finally, people are focusing on things that we REALLY need! ...like stop lights instead of a duplicative and duplicitous HCA hospital! I am sure that we can all agree about the need for those at the Broadlands/Claiborne and Claiborne/Waxpool intersections.

killer_bee in broadands, ashburn, virginia

[jtarnow]

Oh my friend, killer_bee, finally a topic where we completely agree! Our discussions on these forums have been enough to drive me to drink... fortunately we'll have an ABC store nearby! :D

Wait... maybe we should start arguing about the need for left-turn arrows in these lights? ;)


quote:Originally posted by killer_bee

Finally, people are focusing on things that we REALLY need! ...like stop lights instead of a duplicative and duplicitous HCA hospital! I am sure that we can all agree about the need for those at the Broadlands/Claiborne and Claiborne/Waxpool intersections.

killer_bee in broadands, ashburn, virginia

[killer_bee]

JT: I just read the Leesburg Today article on the hospital vote. Praise be! I'll even raise a glass (ginger ale only) while you fill up at the ABC store! Now, if HCA will just go away, we can tackle the real issues for Broadlanders: stop-lights, speeding, vandalism...

killer_bee in broadands, ashburn, virginia

[vacliff]

There will be a stand alone Starbucks store in the shopping center. It will not be located in the Safeway.

[Tech Head]

That's the best news I've heard all day! Any other store updates?

[killer_bee]

quote:Originally posted by vacliff

There will be a stand alone Starbucks store in the shopping center.


THAT IS THE BEST NEWS! Thanks for the update!

killer_bee in broadands, ashburn, virginia

[Homer Simpson]

quote:Originally posted by vacliff

There will be a stand alone Starbucks store in the shopping center. It will not be located in the Safeway.


That's great news but it's not on Saul's site. How did you find that out? I don't want to get my hopes up and have them dashed.

[Stephanie]

Hi, I just checked Saul's site, too. There's no mention of Starbucks.

However, do we need another Starbucks so close, KillerBee and Homer? Is it redundant like the proposed hospital? Just joking! I support Starbucks, too! :-P

[vacliff]

I was at the Starbucks by the Giant in Ashburn Farm and there was a meeting where the regional manager was training new employees. My ears perked up when she mentioned one would be working at the new store in Broadlands. I asked her if it was in the Safeway and she said no, it is a stand alone storefront in the corner. Expected opening day is November 6.
Cliff

[killer_bee]

Stephanie: Oh, brother! Oops, sister, I mean! You know all the right buttons to push. Just joking... In all seriousness, though, I've made my peace with this forum about the proposed HCA ho$pital. Still, you are right that I have called the proposed HCA ho$pital redundant, duplicative, and duplicitous. However, I don't see a Broadlands Starbucks as either of the three. And that is based on fact... If you go to the Ashburn Farm Starbucks in the morning before work, you know the long lines! Also, unlike the proposed HCA ho$pital, Starbucks is not duplicitous. When you go to Starbucks, you know you are going to pay $4.00 for a latte--the costs are posted for all to see. With HCA, you get stuck with the bill PLUS higher taxes due to HCA fraud and abuse!

killer_bee in broadands, ashburn, virginia

[GCyr]

And, just how do you come to this conclusion? HCA would pay taxes to the county/state, unlike LHC. How would that cause us higher taxes? I would think the opposite, but I presume you're basing this on some information you haven't provided us. You keep coming up with these off-the-wall remarks without providing any source for the "facts" so we can research them on our own.

It's OK to build another Starbucks 2-3 blocks away from another Starbucks because you have to stand in long lines but you have a problem with building another hospital when people have to wait in long lines for health care or in the halls for a room. Makes one wonder where your priorities are.


quote:Originally posted by killer_bee

With HCA, you get stuck with the bill PLUS higher taxes due to HCA fraud and abuse!

killer_bee in broadands, ashburn, virginia

[killer_bee]

GCyr: With Starbucks, you are at least getting an honest company. With an HCA ho$pital, you get a company with a history of fraud and abuse. And that fraud and abuse costs the taxpayers! Here's how:

HCA has admitted to defrauding the Medicare program out of millions (actually, NEARLY A BILLION). Guess who pays for Medicare: that's right, us the taxpayers! So, when HCA defrauds the Medicare program, it is taking money out of our wallets! Why in the world would you want to bring that element into our neighborhood??? Now that really makes me question your priorities. Would you welcome a known felon into your house with open arms?

Also, please see http://seniorhealth.about.com/library/weekly/aa121700a.htm for a good review of HCA's fraud and abuse track record before saying that these remarks are off the wall.

killer_bee in broadands, ashburn, virginia

[Tech Head]

Can we please not turn every thread on this site into an HCA fight? It's really getting annoying. Can't we keep the hospital battle to the appropriate thread?

[teak]

Well having another starbucks within a 1/2 mile radius is not surprising for Starbucks. In Ballston (Arlington Va), there are 3 within a 1/2 radius. 2 of them are 1 block apart. I don't know WHY they did that. Of course they HAD to have one across from Xando. And 7-11 just across the other street. So as I step out of my office building my brain has to decide which coffee house I want to go. Sometime I get a brain overload and I grab a juice from the street vendor.

People need to take the time and make their own brew. I started doing this recently. Cappuccino is my favorite. I don't think there's one drink I can't make that Starbucks has. Cleaning the cappuccino machine is a biotch though :(

-Teak

[vacliff]

Starbucks marketing strategy is extremely aggressive. They will open up stores that put their own stores out of business just to make sure they keep out any competition. They want to make sure that any plaza with a coffee shop will have a Starbucks coffee shop and no one else.

They want to monopolize coffee the way Loudoun Hospital wants to monopolize hospital care in Loudoun County.:) (Sorry, Tech Head, just had to throw that in there!! I promise I won't do it again!)
Cliff

[Stephanie]

VaCliff: I'm glad to hear about the Starbucks. I'll be in line on Nov 6!!! Also, I agree that we should keep this thread this thread upbeat. (KillerBee: Sorry to drag you out of our mutually-agreed hospital silence.)

I think that we all can agree that Starbucks is good for the Broadlands. Now for the most important question, will there be a drive-through? VaCliff, you said that it will be in a corner store, so a drive-through should be possible. Any info?

[teak]

Forget the drive thru, we need a brew thru.

-Teak

[Homer Simpson]

If Starbucks would have bought the unit next to it before Hershey's moved in and made it a decent size they wouldn't need a second store. I don't think they realized how popular it was going to be.

Worked out well for me, though. I live across the street from it!

[tyger31]

I've lived in Ashburn since 1988, starting out in Ashburn Farm and now living in Broadlands. I don't know about everyone else, but I'm sick of every shopping center that opens in this area has the same stores! Example: Subway -there's a Subway in Ashburn Village and one in Ashburn Farm, and now another one is opening in Broadlands! Why not get something different? Like Quiznos? Don't get me wrong - Subway is a lot healthier than McDonald's, but why three? It's ridiculous! Just my two cents worth!

[Donna]

I have an idea, when all this HCA mess is over we all go to the new starbucks and have a friendly, neighborly coffee and chat about the weather.

[Sydney]

I concur with the Quiznos thought. My husband would be in dream land.

For lack of a better term, the stores are "cheesey." Mattress Discounters and a Hair Cuttery in same center. Not to sound like a snob or anything, but I can get that kind of service in Prince William County. And an Asia Cafe, Vietnamese, and sushi shop all in the same center seems a bit duplicative. Where are the Paneras, Cosis, and book stores?

[Wick]

Yes, a book store -- we need a Barnes & Noble. Also, I would love to see a Chipotle move in. Great burritos!

[vacliff]

If you want certain stores, then you need to make it known to them that you want them here. Saul will rent out to whoever comes along, so if Subway wants in, they get in. Don't think for a minute that they don't know they are saturating the marketplace. Just as Starbucks doesn't want Dunkin Donuts in, Subway wants to ensure Quiznos, Jerry's, etc. can't get in.
A neighbor of mine was looking into getting a Quiznos franchise, but the deal was so bad with the company that he decided against it.
Stephanie- I don't think there can be a drive through because the entire storefront area is under cover and a sidewalk.

[tyger31]

The term "planned community" doesn't really mean much. If it were "planned", the same stores wouldn't show up in all the different shopping centers! It all boils down to $$$, and they don't care anything about variety at all. At least we're getting a Safeway and not another Giant!!

[Tech Head]

Any news on the restaurant pad sites? I think that is our only hope for a decent sit-down, family restaurant. I realize it's probably going to be a franchise though. Also vacliff, you had mentioned earlier in this thread that they were going to start phase II construction immediately. Any news on stores going in there?

[vacliff]

Tech Head-
Haven't heard anything. I heard about the plan to start Phase 2 immediately from a Terrabrook employee who sells their commercial property. He didn't have any additional information.
Cliff

[Tech Head]

I heard from a manager at a "nearby" Safeway that the Broadlands Safeway is 'scheduled' to open October 10!!!!

[tigger]

According to the sign on Claiborne Pky, the first phase is 98% leased, so what are the stores, since the website doesn't show all the spaces leased.

[Homer Simpson]

My Neighbor walked over there this weekend and saw a "Starbucks coming soon" sign on one of the corner lots. I wouldn't be surprised if the center did a soft opening before the November hard target date.

[tigger]

I drove past the Safeway last night. They had the shelving up, the aisles signs up, freezers up and working, and boxes that might have been the cash register lanes. Looking really great inside.

[vacliff]

I rode my bike along the storefronts today. The following have their names posted:
Hair Salon, Barber, Starbucks, Cards & Gifts, Women's fitness, Viet restaurant, Asia Cafe, Weichert Realty.
Cliff

[tyger31]

I think there are way too many "same cuisine" restuarants in the Ashburn area. It's kind of overkill! But - too late now. I still can't believe that Mattress Discounters will be over there...that type of business belongs along Rt. 7. Wish we would get another drugstore!! CVS is so overloaded...I stood in line the other day for over 30 minutes to pick up a prescription!! Maybe some day!

[hberg]

A 24 hour pharmacy would be nice. Though I never thought I would say it, but I am glad Blockbuster is there. The video place up the street is $4 for 2 day rental. Unreal!

[killer_bee]

I'm just glad that the shopping center is nearing completion! We've been hearing about it forever, so it will be good to start shopping there.

Also, I don't foresee that Mattress Discounters will do a good business here, so let's all agree not to shop there. OK? Then, we can get a new store there in a year!

killer_bee in broadands, ashburn, virginia

[cjfj]

I agree about the Mattress Discounters. Seems to me like it cheapens the shopping center. One additional business in there is the SunTrust Bank going in Safeway. It's scheduled to open 10/29. :)

[Homer Simpson]

quote: Though I never thought I would say it, but I am glad Blockbuster is there. The video place up the street is $4 for 2 day rental. Unreal!


There's a Blockbuster going in there?

[jtarnow]

Yep! Terrific news, as far as I'm concerned. I currently treck to the Ashburn Village Blockbuster.

quote:Originally posted by Homer Simpson

quote: Though I never thought I would say it, but I am glad Blockbuster is there. The video place up the street is $4 for 2 day rental. Unreal!


There's a Blockbuster going in there?

[Farscape]

Homer - Saul Centers lists Blockbuster on their website and it is going in right next to the most anticipated Mattress Discounters store.

quote:There's a Blockbuster going in there?

[tyger31]

I'm glad there's a Blockbuster going in there.....that's great news! I agree - we should boycott that Mattress Discounters store, hopefully they'll go out of business and we can get a drugstore.....

[T8erman]

MD will probably do fairly well in this area. The nearest mattress place is in Herndon or at the Dulles Mall. And why such a dislike by most posters for MD? Is it because it is not "sexy, glamorous or an oft visited" store? Odds are that most people in Broadlands will not hesitate to go to the new MD when they need a new mattress.
IMHO, starting a grassroots campaign to get rid of a matress store is just lame!

[Wick]

T8erman, I agree -- in fact, wer'e in the market for a new mattress and if MD carries Sealy, Simmons, etc. and has good prices, why wouldn't we look there?

[Tech Head]

I think that we're going to see more stores similar to MD (retail) in the Phase II section.

[Homer Simpson]

quote:Originally posted by T8erman
And why such a dislike by most posters for MD?

It's b/c Matress Stores are usually seedy and the industry has a reputation for ripping people off. I have no personal experience with MD so I don't know if the sterotype will be true in this case.

[SK8R]

I will never buy a mattress there. Their commercials on the radio are so annoying. Every week they are having a new sale.
we have been there. They sell okay mattresses, not great mattresses. There prices are not good.
I really hate their commercials, like
Toyota, loud and stupid,

[SK8R]

I meant, like the Toyota commercials...

[tyger31]

When we first moved to Loudoun County, in 1988, I saw a bumper sticker on a car that read "Don't Fairfax Loudoun County". Well - Loudoun County is beginning to look like Fairfax County to me. I don't personally have an objection with MD, just the fact that it's going into a beautiful development .....it just doesn't seem to belong....as I said before...it belongs off of Rt. 7 or over by Home Depot in Ashburn. We just bought a new mattress a couple weeks ago by the Mall, it's no big deal to have to drive there. I personally moved to Loudoun County to get away from the traffic, noise, etc. of Fairfax County. (Reston). It's kind of sad.......

[hberg]

Does anyone know that for sure Safeway is opening tomorrow?

[chris]

I seriously doubt that it could open tomorrow. We rode our bikes up there last night, and the store is not stocked at all. I think that November 10 is much more likely.

[Tech Head]

Stopped by the Safeway tonight. They are definitely NOT opening tomorrow. It looks like it could be a week or two though. Boy, that's a BIG store!

[SK8R]

Tyger31, I agree with you completely.
We moved here in '96 and boy, has it changed.
too many shopping centers, too many houses, too many cars, too many dry cleaners (did you know that the chemicals they use cause cancer?) too many nail places. It is turning into Fairfax County. Every time I drive somewhere I have not been in a while, Bang! it looks different, trees plowed down and houses moved in.
It is turning into a thoughtless mess.

[SK8R]

Tyger31, I agree with you completely.
We moved here in '96 and boy, has it changed.
too many shopping centers, too many houses, too many cars, too many dry cleaners (did you know that the chemicals they use cause cancer?) too many nail places. It is turning into Fairfax County. Every time I drive somewhere I have not been in a while, Bang! it looks different, trees plowed down and houses moved in.
It is turning into a thoughtless mess.

[OP_dude]

Why is everyone so hard on Mattress Discounters? In America a free market and consumer demand determine where a company locates a store. If MD has no demand for their product they will eventually fold up and move on. If they do well then it would be obvious they are providing a service the community needs and/or wants and have every right to stay.
I personally dislike Starbucks but I respect their right to open a shop in Broadlands.
This shopping center, like all others, will go through several businesses in the first few years until the local economy decides what type of business has the right "fit".


"The right to be heard does not include the right to be taken seriously."
--Hubert H. Humphrey

[JenCo]

I went to the Sterling Safeway earlier in the week and was told that this one is opening at the end of the month.

And I'd like to say that I personally wish Starbucks was in the Safeway...hello!? use your Safeway Card & get free coffee!! Free is fun:)

[kassiabi]

Is it just me or anyone else think the shopping center is WAY too bright all night long? I guess it could be a good thing, but as a resident who lives right across the street from the new safeway shopping center, we were able to see the light thru 2 of our bedrooms all night ! I just hope they plan some tall tall tress to block some of those lights,,,

[killer_bee]

quote:Originally posted by OP_dude


Why is everyone so hard on Mattress Discounters? ... I personally dislike Starbucks but I respect their right to open a shop in Broadlands.


I respect that Mattress Discounters has the right to open the shopping center. However, I don't like it, and won't use their services. I've got the right to do that, don't I?

killer_bee in broadands, ashburn, virginia

[Tech Head]

kassiabi, I think that it's just going to get brighter once the gas station and Phase II are completed. Actually, I thought it wasn't that bright considering the large parking lot. At least the lights are shining straight down!

[T8erman]

SK8R and TYGER31 - You think it has changed since 96??? I grew up in Sterling Park when there were only 3 lights in ALL of Loudoun County. I can claim to go to Broad Run HS BEFORE Park View was built (Class of 79). At that time there was a little town of maybe a couple hundred people between Sterling Park and Leesburg called ASHBURN! :-) I can remember a "rush hour" commute to Langley that was no more than 30-35 minutes down Rt. 7 (what toll road?). I am glad for alot of the development that has occurred so that I do NOT have to go to Fairfax Co. to shop and have certain things done. I would like to see more development, smartly done of course.

[tyger31]

I've been in Ashburn since 1988....right at the very beginning....had to go to Leesburg or Countryside to shop.....development is good....but in VA - they build development first and THEN worry about the congestion on the roads....Now Purcellville is going thru the same thing and they don't want to look like Ashburn!!

[Tech Head]

vacliff, do you happen to know if they have started leasing Phase II yet and if there is any estimate on when Phase II is scheduled for delivery? Thanks!

[vacliff]

I just got off the phone with a VP at Saul who is responsible for the Broadlands site.
The Safeway is hoping for an Oct 29 opening, with the remaining stores opening between early November and late December.
Additional stores under contract that are not shown on the website are Starbucks and Postal Connections (a UPS/Mailbox etc type store).
Negotiations are ongoing between a Fins and Feathers pet store and a family oriented Italian restaurant.
Phase 2 is expected to commence in January with a Sept-Oct 2004 occupancy date.
Cliff

[GCyr]

Cliff,

The next time you talk to someone at Saul (don't make a special call), can you get an update on the Safeway gas pumps. Drove by there Sunday and I didn't see any construction on going for the pumps.

Thanks,
Greg

quote:Originally posted by vacliff

I just got off the phone with a VP at Saul who is responsible for the Broadlands site.
The Safeway is hoping for an Oct 29 opening, with the remaining stores opening between early November and late December.
Additional stores under contract that are not shown on the website are Starbucks and Postal Connections (a UPS/Mailbox etc type store).
Negotiations are ongoing between a Fins and Feathers pet store and a family oriented Italian restaurant.
Phase 2 is expected to commence in January with a Sept-Oct 2004 occupancy date.
Cliff

[vacliff]

I asked him about it, but he didn't know.

[afgm]

Cliff,

Do you happen to know if a SunTrust will be in the Safeway?

Thanks

[vacliff]

Nope, don't know.

[cjfj]

Yes, the SunTrust will be an instore branch in Safeway. It's scheduled to open 10/29. :)

[Tech Head]

Just saw the sign up at the Safeway. "Grand Opening, Wednesday, October 29, 8:00 AM". It looks like it is about half stocked with food already.

[hberg]

Anyone know if it is a 24 hour safeway?

quote:Originally posted by Tech Head

Just saw the sign up at the Safeway. "Grand Opening, Wednesday, October 29, 8:00 AM". It looks like it is about half stocked with food already.

[vacliff]

Well, it looks like it will be a two Starbucks plaza. In additional to the Starbucks store, there is a Starbucks inside the Safeway. There's also a bank, dry cleaner, and sandwich shop inside it.

[chris]

So, you can hit the Starbucks outside the Safeway before you start shopping and, if you start to run a little low on caffeine while you are shopping, you can stop at the one in the store. I LIKE the sound of that! [:p]

[Muzicman]

THE SAFEWAY OPENS ON THE 29 EVERYONE COME ANd LISTEN TO THE EAGLE RIDGE JAZZ BAND, THEY ARE OPENING IT....I GOT THAT FROM SOMEONE...THEY ARE AWESOME FROM WHAT I HAVE HEARD, I HEARD THEM LAST YEAR AND THEY WHERE THE BEST....SO COME SUPPORT THEM

[Dawne]

The shopping center is 98% leased...pretty good for not even open yet (couple more days!)

Also, we should encourage the Starbucks to have live music and stuff from time to time. Makes for a nice place to visit.

Here's the latest plan on the Saul web site...but it's not too current. It shows #5 as available, and that's where starbucks is going...

http://www.saulcenters.com/prop/vaprop/nova/broadlands/broadlandsprop/lp.htm

Dawne

[WesGurney]

I saw that 98% too...

pardon my math/curiousity BUT....

how are they doing their math...In order for it to be 98% would imply that 49/50 stores have been leased...Does that mean only 1 store is available???

Hmmmm

[Tech Head]

So, the Safeway is opening Wednesday morning and still there is no work on the stoplight. I guess we are all going to have to be very cautious going through the Broadlands Blvd/Claiborne Pkwy intersection. I just hope there aren't any fatalities! This is so typical of how things are done in Loudoun County (and northern Virginia in general). Build it first and then worry about how people are going to get to it.

[Homer Simpson]

The Starbucks is about the same size as the one up the street so it'll be a little small for live music (bummer).

And when do you not have to be carefull at that intersection? It's been a mess ever since the apartments on Demott opened up. I saw someone run the stop sign in front of a truck and boom!

[hberg]

I have seen people run that stop sign constantly from the road that feeds onto Claiborne.

quote:Originally posted by Homer Simpson

The Starbucks is about the same size as the one up the street so it'll be a little small for live music (bummer).

And when do you not have to be carefull at that intersection? It's been a mess ever since the apartments on Demott opened up. I saw someone run the stop sign in front of a truck and boom!

[T8erman]

Personally, I would like to see people be cautious at EVERY intersection! There are alot of bad drivers out there.

[joy]

I think the 98% leased is likely based on square footage.

--Joy

[WesGurney]

Ahhh..That makes sense

[JenCo]

FYI - the Season's Cards & Gift Shop is open. If you're facing Safeway, it's on the left. They have some fun & unique things in there.

[Farscape]

Looks like "Fins & Feathers" is a go! Sauls updated their site and has finally included Starbucks. Fins & Feathers is there as well.

Does anyone know what kind of store "Easy Color" is?

[Wick]

What is Fins and Feathers?

I think Easy Color is a hair salon. However, I could be wrong.

[Farscape]

I was thinking that Easy Color was a hair salon, but it is just an odd name.

Fins & Feather is a pet store.

[peterd]

One of the few remaining storefronts in phase I is going to be a scrapbooking/stamping store. (I know because my wife is opening it ;)

Should open in Mid-December ... Next to the Sushi place!

-- peterd

[tigger]

Thank you for bringing the Scrapbooking store to our area!!!!!!!!!

[peterd]

Sure... From the tone of this forum, it's more welcome than the ABC store or the matress store :-P

As for me, I'm happy it's next to the Sushi!

--- peterd

--- peterd

[Homer Simpson]

I'm very much for the ABC store. Drinking in America is not a crime YET!

[j12toad]

I am all for this shopping center I think its great, but I dont see the need for Two cleaners, two starbucks, 3 places to get hair cut, and 3 places for Aisan cuisine. Its to bad Saul did not use some disgretion in who they let lease space in their shopping center. Not to mention you can find a starbucks, Chinese food, and a nail salon in EVERY shopping center in Ashburn. Its nice to see something differnent like the Fins and Feathers. I hope the shopping center that will be tied to Clydes will offer something different.

[T8erman]

peterd - dont be fooled, the ABC will do VERY well in this community. God knows after reading some individuals posts to these forumns, I am ready to have a drink (in disbelief) TIC (Tongue In Cheeck)

[tyger31]

J12toad - my sentiments exactly! That's why it's a laugh when they call our developments planned! Not planned when it comes to shopping centers! There is absolutely no variety whatsoever. I can't understand why there is a Starbucks in Safeway and then another one. It's nice that there is a card/gift shop! We really need another drugstore up in our area as well!!

[hberg]

You would think with all the families in this area there would be a 24 hour pharmacy.

I think too why so many dry cleaners - especially if they are all ridculously expensive.

[vacliff]

j12toad-
There is no shopping center tied to Clyde's. It is a stand alone facility. The remaining property between Clyde's and Claiborne Parkway is unsold commercially zoned and not zoned for retail.
Cliff

[peterd]

So, to comment on the "planning" of the planned community...

Saul is compelled to do one thing: keep businesses in their stores! There is no other motivation. Generally, they will "seek" a strong anchor, often a Grocery. I'm just gratefull it's not another Giant!

As for the other(s).. the main requirement for being a tenant, is to provide a service that generates traffic to the center. THAT is their motivation. Saul, in fact, is one of the most expensive land-developers, because they have the reputation for keeping customer-traffic high, based (in part) on client selection.

So, while I too would rather see some variation in the offerings and less duplication from neighboring centers, the only way i can see to improving the diversity of stores is:

a] constant mail to the BF Saul property management folk (as they are currently leasing the phase II space now)
b] don't go to the stores you don't like. eventually, they will fail to make sales forcasts, and will be forced (or asked) to move/shut-down.

'Course, having said that, what _might_ happen is that the Subway, Starbucks, nail/hair salons et al will close in the Claibourne Giant center and move to the safeway center (which is what happened to the Super-fresh center when the Giant opened...)

Will have to wait and see.

Meanwhile, gotta go to the Village for some ABC's... I'm fresh out.



--- peterd

[Homer Simpson]

Just walked over to the ABC store yesterday. It looks like it's going to be as big as the one in the Village maybe a little bit bigger! Woo-Hoo!

[chris]

Homer: That is awesome news.

[OP_dude]

This may be a bit "un-pc" but I would love to see some type of pub. It would be nice to have a place to go, watch a ball game, eat some wings and have a cold frosty one within walking distance.

"The right to be heard does not include the right to be taken seriously."
--Hubert H. Humphrey

[Homer Simpson]

quote:Originally posted by OP_dude

This may be a bit "un-pc" but I would love to see some type of pub. It would be nice to have a place to go, watch a ball game, eat some wings and have a cold frosty one within walking distance.


Clyde's will have a bar. If it's like the one in DC it will be pub like and very nice.

[OP_dude]

quote:Originally posted by Homer Simpson

quote:Originally posted by OP_dude


Clyde's will have a bar. If it's like the one in DC it will be pub like and very nice.


Since there is no light at Claiborne, it would be too dangerous to walk there. :D


"The right to be heard does not include the right to be taken seriously."
--Hubert H. Humphrey

[Homer Simpson]

quote:Originally posted by OP_dude
Since there is no light at Claiborne, it would be too dangerous to walk there. :D


LOL! You're right about that!

[Homer Simpson]

It looks as if the ABC store may have been open. Just went by there and it's fully stocked and the neon signs are on. There is a handwritten sign saying "temporarily closed". May be open soon though! Woo-Hoo!

And there is a sign posting it's Xmas holiday hours so it will be open by Xmas!

[SarasMom]

I was just at the shopping center as well. There was an electrician working in the ABC store. It looks VERY close to opening.

[teak]

quote:Originally posted by SarasMom

I was just at the shopping center as well. There was an electrician working in the ABC store. It looks VERY close to opening.


Went by there the fri after thanksgiving and I couldn't find it. Glad to hear it's about to open. Running low on Jack and need a refill.

-Teak

[Homer Simpson]

The ABC store is now open. Just bought my first fifth there!

[T8erman]

Homer, just one?! Come on man, it is the holidays! :-)

[Tech Head]

Just gave the ABC store some business today (and the new Blockbuster)! Anybody know what the hold up is on the Safeway gas station?

[Homer Simpson]

quote:Originally posted by T8erman

Homer, just one?! Come on man, it is the holidays! :-)


I can walk there! woo-hoo! No more having to drive out when I'm dry!

[chris]

quote:Originally posted by Homer Simpson


I can walk there! woo-hoo! No more having to drive out when I'm dry!

It's a full 1/3 mi for us, so we still have to drive, darn it, especially with the way that we load up the sport ute at the ABC store!:)

[brim]

quote:Originally posted by chris

It's a full 1/3 mi for us, so we still have to drive, darn it, especially with the way that we load up the sport ute at the ABC store!:)


I see you're maximizing the potential of your vehicle...driving a whole 1/3mi in an SUV to go to the liquor store.

[chris]

My day-to-day car is a gas sipper with a little inline 4, and I get 32 MPG, thank you very much! However, since we're the "evil," "vile," and "degraceful" people who go to the ABC store on occasion, we have to take the sport ute just to be able to fit in enough alcohol to satisfy our deplorable desires.

[brim]

Oh, I'm not saying anything about drinking...drink up! I just hate SUVs. :)

[chris]

I'm no fan either, but ours is helpful since it now looks like we live in the snow belt. Also, ours isn't anyhting as outrageous as a Hummer.

[Homer Simpson]

quote:Originally posted by chris

I'm no fan either, but ours is helpful since it now looks like we live in the snow belt. Also, ours isn't anyhting as outrageous as a Hummer.


There's a hummer on my street. They can't fit it in the garage! It's bigger than the opening.

[Mr. Linux]

Homer,

You wouldn't by chance live on Autumnwood Sq, would you?

[:p]

Mr. Linux
------------------------------------------------
Got Broadband?
Yea, REALLY SOON now!

[Homer Simpson]

quote:Originally posted by Mr. Linux

Homer,

You wouldn't by chance live on Autumnwood Sq, would you?

[:p]

Mr. Linux
------------------------------------------------
Got Broadband?
Yea, REALLY SOON now!


Nope, but close!

[Dutchml]

So there's a sign in front of the Safeway Center saying it is now 100% leased. Anyone know who the last 3 stores belong to? If it's another place for women, I'm gonna scream. There's an Easy Color, Ladies Workout Express, Nail Salon, and Aesthetica Day Spa, and some other hair salon... I didn't think the women in the area needed that much help! :D

[brim]

quote:Originally posted by Dutchml

So there's a sign in front of the Safeway Center saying it is now 100% leased. Anyone know who the last 3 stores belong to? If it's another place for women, I'm gonna scream. There's an Easy Color, Ladies Workout Express, Nail Salon, and Aesthetica Day Spa, and some other hair salon... I didn't think the women in the area needed that much help! :D


You forgot about that scrapbooking store that some guy here said his wife was opening next to the sushi place...it's not on the floor plan but I think it's unit 20, so that leaves two. Maybe we'll luck up and get a Bath and Body Works in that large unit second from the right! :)

I don't think that they need that much help, but that they don't have anything else to do during the day. :)

If I can get one more gender poke in, perhaps thats the problem with the 'deadly' intersection out front...all the women drivers. :)

EDIT: Perhaps we can get a pub/bar in that large unit...then the guys will have somewhere to go while all the women are getting their nails/hair/scrapbooking done!

[boomertsfx]

Yeah, the only non-lame store we have is the ABC store...

I would never step foot in:

hair place * 2
nail place
blockbuster
starbucks
dry cleaners
ladies workout
mattress "discounters"
sushi
scrapbooking

I agree with Brim -- we need a manly place to go. It will be nice once Clydes opens!

[Sydney]

quote:Originally posted by brim

I don't think that they need that much help, but that they don't have anything else to do during the day. :)

If I can get one more gender poke in, perhaps thats the problem with the 'deadly' intersection out front...all the women drivers. :)


I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you were kidding . . .[8D]

[brim]

quote:Originally posted by Sydney

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you were kidding . . .[8D]


Half kidding... :)

[SK8R]

Well, if you guys would help out more then we would not need all of these places!!!

[chris]

quote:Originally posted by Dutchml

I didn't think the women in the area needed that much help! :D
In keeping with the vein of joking (and to prove that I have a sense of humor), I think that it's the men in the area that need more help. Walk around Safeway or Giant, and you'll see lots of chubby hubbies (sorry Ben & Jerry) with gorgeous women who spend their days keeping themselves fit.

[GCyr]

Chris,

So, what's your point...[8D]

quote:Originally posted by chris

quote:Originally posted by Dutchml

I didn't think the women in the area needed that much help! :D
In keeping with the vein of joking (and to prove that I have a sense of humor), I think that it's the men in the area that need more help. Walk around Safeway or Giant, and you'll see lots of chubby hubbies (sorry Ben & Jerry) with gorgeous women who spend their days keeping themselves fit.

[brim]

quote:Originally posted by chris

Walk around Safeway or Giant, and you'll see lots of chubby hubbies (sorry Ben & Jerry) with gorgeous women who spend their days keeping themselves fit.


No offense, but some of them need to get out and get a job rather than driving around all day spending their husband's money at the day spas and hair places. :)

[boomertsfx]

Hey calm down brim.... It's a tough life trying to ferry the kids around to the Little Gym, the Botox place, Starbucks, and then get back in time for Days of Our Lives.

;)

[chris]

quote:Originally posted by GCyr

Chris,
So, what's your point...[8D]
Well, maybe the area needs a men's only work out place to go with the girl's only one. It could be like Hooters...you know, with scantily clad, jiggly female trainers "motivating" the guys. Maybe that would help more guys make it in to the gym regularly.

Of course this is all just joking... As we all know, obesity is major healthcare problem facing this country. =-)

[chris]

quote:Originally posted by brim
No offense, but some of them need to get out and get a job rather than driving around all day spending their husband's money at the day spas and hair places. :)
I think that some of the men in the area are playing a BIG role in wanting their wives to be domestic goddesses (I don't like the term "stay-at-home wife/mom." In talking to quite a few guys in the area, they actually boast that their wives don't have to work with the implication being that they are darned good providers and that any man who has a working wife must not be making enough to support his family.

[Homer Simpson]

quote:Originally posted by chris

I think that some of the men in the area are playing a BIG role in wanting their wives to be domestic goddesses (I don't like the term "stay-at-home wife/mom." In talking to quite a few guys in the area, they actually boast that their wives don't have to work with the implication being that they are darned good providers and that any man who has a working wife must not be making enough to support his family.
[/quote]

That's typical of the arrogance of some of this counties residents. They probably also boast about their Hemi powered tax break loop holed
non farming suburban assault vehicles.[}:)]

[chris]

Homer, I think that you may be right! I just overheard this in the Safeway: "My woman ain't gotta work cuz I wear the pants in my house, and I just bought me a Hemi."

[OP_dude]

Hooters.....hmmm.... that would be interesting. That is one establishment that is opposed by both liberals and conservatives but they still seem to do one heck of a business. LOL

[boomertsfx]

That's because rednecks aren't interested in politics, only Nascar. [:p]

[brim]

quote:Originally posted by OP_dude

Hooters.....hmmm.... that would be interesting. That is one establishment that is opposed by both liberals and conservatives but they still seem to do one heck of a business. LOL


Hooters would be nice, but the wife wouldn't be pleased. :) I love Hooter's wings but I hate the 'service'. I don't need some chesty waitress pandering for tips by pretending to be interested in every guy in the place. Just bring me my wings and leave me be. :)

[boomertsfx]

I love hooters.

[Dutchml]

Any place in that mall where a guy could go and scratch himself in public would be nice, doesn't necessarily have to be a Hooters....although that wouldn't hurt. And any guy who has to brag about his wife not having to work must have other issues (shortcomings). ;)

[GCyr]

The restaurant or the objects? [}:)]

quote:Originally posted by boomertsfx

I love hooters.

[OnInReg]

Sirs, I do believe that a Pub is slated for the new shopping center behind the Circle K. It is purported to be an "up-scale" establishmnet. I am happy to report that I am well within walking distance.

[OP_dude]

quote:Originally posted by OnInReg

Sirs, I do believe that a Pub is slated for the new shopping center behind the Circle K. It is purported to be an "up-scale" establishmnet. I am happy to report that I am well within walking distance.


Great! So if we have a bit too much we can just walk over to your house and sleep it off.[|)]

[chris]

Oh my gosh! A pub?!? When are we going to here the standard battle cry of "What about the children?"

A pub would be nice. Also, if we ever get Clyde's built, I want a personalized stool at the bar.

[T8erman]

Chris - please stop!!!! Just when I begin to despise you and your vile DNC ways, you make a wonderful remark about wanting a personalized bar stool. My God, when it comes to alcohol we seem to have quite a bit in common! :-)

[OnInReg]

OP Dude, In a previous post you wrote:
"This may be a bit "un-pc" but I would love to see some type of pub. It would be nice to have a place to go, watch a ball game, eat some wings and have a cold frosty one within walking distance."
I was of the belief that you were referring to the distance to your own home; however, it now appears that you are asking the community to support your "hobby" of over indulging by providing a shelter subsidy. OK, I guess if I have to, I will be my brother's inn keeper.;)
quote:Originally posted by OP_dude

quote:Originally posted by OnInReg

Sirs, I do believe that a Pub is slated for the new shopping center behind the Circle K. It is purported to be an "up-scale" establishmnet. I am happy to report that I am well within walking distance.


Great! So if we have a bit too much we can just walk over to your house and sleep it off.[|)]

[chris]

quote:Originally posted by T8erman

Chris - please stop!!!! Just when I begin to despise you and your vile DNC ways, you make a wonderful remark about wanting a personalized bar stool. My God, when it comes to alcohol we seem to have quite a bit in common! :-)
How can anyone despise me? I'm very un-opinionated! I just guess drinking crosses party lines, but I would feel safe in wagering that more Republicans feel that drinking is a "sin" than do Democrats.:)

Really, though, we have got to look into getting personalized bar stools at Clyde's. Clyde's could make a killing selling them as Christmas gifts!

[OP_dude]

quote:Originally posted by OnInReg

it now appears that you are asking the community to support your "hobby" of over indulging by providing a shelter subsidy.
Actually, Overindulging hurts way too much anymore. [xx(]
It's kind of taken the fun out of drinking. - LOL

[cappy122272]

Does anyone know the phone number for Easy Color?
Everytime I call information they tell me that they don't have a listing for this business...very frustrating when I live across the street. Of course, when I try to call, I'm usually at work.

thanks!