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Broadlands Hospital

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by joy, Jun 18, 2002.

  1. hera

    hera New Member

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    It is good for you because the second hospital can still be built where it is needed and not minutes from another hospital right down the road.
     
  2. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    SOMETHING WILL be built there hera- your "torture" is still pending, when they start building ridiculous office buildings that will sit empty- just look across from the regency to see the writing on the wall- or- is that GRAFFITI...?

    when the space across from your "fallout zone" becomes a hangout for people up to no good and thieves looking to steal whatever isn't nailed down or squatters hanging out in vandalised, unoccupied office spaces, you might realize that the hospital would have been the BETTER of 2 evils. i live less than 1/2 mile from where that area is going to be built up, and consider a known hospital to be far better than unknown office space.

    Let me ask you hera, and anyone else who feels they live in the "fallout zone"- what do you think will happen to that space now? how will whatever they build there enhance your life? since it will NOT remain trees and SOMETHING WILL go there, what do you envision? it's an honest, serious question.
     
  3. hera

    hera New Member

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    The people in the fallout zone have been very reasonable in this process, and I've listened to my mom explain this to many people over coffee. We don't oppose the building of something that fits with the community, something that does not require a special zoning exception, etc. So, if it fits the bill, let's bring it on. The Clydes, the School building - they are both GOOD neighbors, and we'd welcome more like that.
     
  4. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    i'll let someone who knows more than me answer up about "what fits the bill" as you have laid it out above... anyone?
     
  5. hera

    hera New Member

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    If you have evidence that an elected official in this county traded a vote for money/services, then please provide it.

    Many of us have wondered why Miller flip-flopped on this issue and decided ultimately to attack and denigrate the people he represents. However, you don't see me making allegations like yours. Regardless, the Miller issue can be resolved quite easily in the next election. :)
     
  6. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    he represents ME and i didn't feel attacked or denigrated when he was on the other side... why should you? :confused:
     
  7. hera

    hera New Member

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    I wonder if he really ever was "on the other side." There's no proof of it. It looks like he just said what he needed to say to get elected and then drove a knife into people's backs. He has got to GO.
     
  8. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    Hera, Supervisor Miller represents our district, not just your 'fallout zone'. You might be against the hospital, but MANY in his district wanted the hospital here. He was looking out for the district as a whole, as well as the county. I understand your frustration, but it's not necessarily an issue that only affects your street or your mother. It's an issue that affects our district and the county as a whole.

    As far as I'm concerned, we all live in the Inova Fallout Zone now. They will decide what medical services will be offered to the county residents and how much those services will cost us. And they will return nothing back into the county coffers.

    Finally, you mention that Supervisor Miller 'attacked and denigrated' the people he represents. Please provide us with some examples of this. I have never heard of Miller attacking/denigrating any Loudoun County resident in regards to the hospital issue. So once again, please provide some factual information to back your claim.
     
  9. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    So, what you're saying is that he should have stuck with an 'opinion' he had months/years ago, and not based his decisions on new information and outcomes that occurred after that time? That's insane. I want my elected officials to look at all the facts, information, data, trends, etc, and make a decision based on the most up to date data available in order to make a sensible, intelligent and relevant decision. Under your logic, if someone ran for an elected post prior to the economic downturn, and had a 'position', he/she should stick to that 'position' and not take into consideration new developments in the economy, etc.
     
  10. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    so.... you ask for proof from someone on THEIR statement about the board being bought and paid for just minutes before heaping your baseless allegations on Miller? :confused:

    i applaud your passion for what you believe, but don't make the mistake of believing that someone is attacking you or your views or your family just b/c they disagree with you, or (gasp) have the interests of MANY over the interests of FEW at the core of their decision.

    that's the kind of thinking that divides people rather than the smarter alternative: folks who disagree finding a way to compromise, or simply accept that they are on opposite sides and move on.

    i have very good friends on both sides of this issue and none of us feel WRONGED- someone won, someone lost. i don't feel betrayed by the board members who voted against the hospital- they have THEIR interests and reasons just like those who voted for it.

    you are still young enough to learn how to disagree with people without being fanatical and throwing around rhetoric and over reactive statements, hera- here's a great opportunity to do so.

    most adults are beyond help, and now in politics... lol
     
  11. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    Not at all for the time being. The place wasn't to be open for awhile.. so no point trying to take 'todays topic' about schools and weave them together.

    Long term revenue .. yes its a loss. But affect this years budget? No.

    And why would the loss of ADDITIONAL revenue cause cuts to current budgets?
     
  12. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    You do realize Clydes did not 'fit with the community' and needed special zoning too right?

    Maybe you should learn something from that.. that things can end up good and be 'good neighbors'
     
  13. hera

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    He made campaign promises to get elected and then changed his mind. I think you would be quick to criticize him if his change did not suit you.

    The evidence of his attacks on the community are quite obvious in the way he treated the people in the fallout zone. He considered us idiots for believing his campaign promises and laughed in our faces when he was called out. Election day can't come soon enough.
     
  14. hera

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    I get passionate about these things, yes. One reason is that my mom got lied to.
     
  15. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    I ask again, please provide specific facts/proof that Miller 'attacked and denigrated' Loudoun County residents. Since they are 'quite obvious' as you state, please provide them to us. All I'm hearing from you at the moment is 'hearsay' and 'opinion', and nothing tangible. Do you have any official statements he made? Any news articles that backup your claim?

    As for 'changing his mind', I expect that from elected officials. As I stated previously, I want them to base their decisions on the latest and most accurate information, and I respect that sort of 'research/action' regardless of which side of the issue the official ends up on.

    Finally, you're stating Miller made promises about the hospital. What promises did he make?
     
  16. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    Both sides have been lied to. Look at some of the ads, statements, etc made by the folks against the hospital that have been proven to be wrong, false and/or not factual. Consider yourself lucky; you have a choice to vote for/against the person you feel lied to you. The rest of us are stuck with Inova and their 'bad neighbor' actions. I can't 'vote Inova out', or 'vote a hospital in'.
     
  17. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    see? smarter than me... i knew THAT wouldn't take long. :)

    only time will tell whether or not this was a smart decision- all the speculation in the world means nada.

    this has been fun... and now- since :deadhorse:

    i am :scaredhide:
     
  18. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Okay, are you talking about Miller or Obama now?

    Folks, hera is probably a troll. hera came in very late in the election threads and then disappeared, and now shows up LATE in another controversial topic.
     
  19. Brassy

    Brassy Hiyah

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    Redon, come on "See, smarter than me?" How about just being less informed/aware. You ARE one smart babe! Feel the power!
     
  20. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    ok I am less informed than Steve on this particular issue and not ashamed to admit it! :)

    better brassy? ;)
     

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