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School Budget Slashed?

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by chris, Apr 8, 2004.

  1. chris

    chris New Member

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    Nobody can truthfully say that Bush is doing a better job in improving the economy than Clinton. You can dismiss the HUGE budget surplus that the Clinton administration amassed all you want. At the end of the day, Clinton got us out of debt. Bush is spending us all into oblivion. The worst part is that he wasting $111,000,000,000+ on a stupid attempt to "colonize" Iraq while he could be giving more than a pittance to public education. For some good data on this, go to
    - http://costofwar.com/index-public-education.html
     
  2. Wick

    Wick New Member

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    Wow, I go away for a little bit and people lose their brains.

    1. Clinton signed a balanced budget that was written and developed by the Republican majority Congress -- as in the ANNUAL budget -- but did not eliminate the federal debt!!! Those are apples and oranges for the non-economic minded among you. See http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm

    In other words, just because you made money or had positive cash flow during 2003 or 2004 or whenever, doesn't mean that you are out of debt (especially if you bought a home around these parts).

    2. Gullable is OK with Merriam-Webster. Nice (weak) attempt at a dig, though. http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=gullable

    3. According to the website linked above (which is the U.S. Treasury), the Federal DEBT grew $1.6T during the Clinton years. So far, it has grown $1.5T during the Bush years (up through 3/31/04). Of course, that includes (1) considerable unplanned spending on fighting the terrorists that the Clinton adminstration turned their back on and (2) lower tax receipts because of the artificial stock market gains that Clinton let go on his watch (e.g., Enron, Worldcom, Tyco, Global Crossing) -- why wasn't Clinton fighting corporate corruption?
     
  3. luvmyredslk320

    luvmyredslk320 New Member

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    Republicans can be counted on for one thing: consistency. Clinton hasn't been in office for four years, and he's still the only thing that they can ever talk about. Can you only harp on the past, or is there something current you can gripe about, too? Maybe Vietnam II in Iraq, the U.S. economy in shambles, gas prices through the roof, the number of unisured at an all-time high, the cost of prescription drugs unaffordable for the working class???
     
  4. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Yes, Republicans are consistent, consistently trying to fix DNC military screwups! JFK (Dem) got us into Vietnam, Nixon pulled us out. Clinton, by his non-actions got us into Iraq.

    Economy in shambles? You are living in an expensive neighborhood and driving a Mercedes... Can't be too bad for you!
     
  5. luvmyredslk320

    luvmyredslk320 New Member

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    Pardon me, but didn't Dubya's deddy fight a war over in Iraq before Clinton was elected to replace him and his failed policies?
    My finances aren't in the toilet, but my investment portfolio has lost net value since the Son of Bush regime took power and my other income has held relatively flat (adjusting for inflation). I'm not complaining so much personally, but I am concerned about all the other people out there who are worse off. For example, look at our soldiers who are fighting overseas and their families. Dubya's policies have kept them underpaid and over-worked while he has doled out HUGE $$$ to his Halliburton buddies. Now that's a compassionate conservative. Now, go defend him so more...
     
  6. Homer Simpson

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    Halliburton sure does have a sweet deal. Buddies with the VP, overcharging the gov and in control of Iraq oil. It's hard not to think that there's something improper going on with that. I wonder if this will be Junior's Watergate.
     
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  8. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    I do feel some compassion for those worse off who DESERVE it. As far as the soldiers, last time I checked the was no draft.
     
  9. chris

    chris New Member

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    I PROUDLY SUPPORT OUR BRAVE SOLDIERS! I think that they deserve a livable wage given that they put their butts on the line everyday to protect our lives. We have a proud history of volunteer service in the U.S., and many capable young men and women give up high-paying careers to protect our lives.

    I, for one, appreciate every soldier who has served this great country and would never demean their honorable contributions by telling them that they knew what the pay was when they got in and should get their mouths shut.
     
  10. luvmyredslk320

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    I guess we all DESERVE to pay outrageous gas prices so Bush's oil buddies and all the royalty in Saudi can roll around in more piles of billions of dollars. Maybe poor children without insurance DESERVE to pay three times the price for drugs than people in Canada and Europe do (in even when those drugs are MADE RIGHT HERE IN THE USA). What other woes do we Americans DESERVE thanks to Bush?
    Way to show support for the troops. I'm with chris and support our men in uniform even though I do not agree with Bush's willingness to sacrifice them for oil that we will not even own in Iraq.
     
  11. Wick

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    So sell your Mercedes and give the money to the poor. If you really as much as you claim, you would do it. After all, you don't need a Mercedes.
     
  12. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    I support our troops EVERY day! I even changed my job after 9/11 to directly support the war on terrorism? What did you do?


     
  13. luvmyredslk320

    luvmyredslk320 New Member

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    First of all, I didn't bash the brave soliders of this country for choosing to serve. That's what you did. Would you look at them in the face and tell them that they don't deserve any more to feed their kids while they are busting their butts to keep us safe and secure? That's a great way to support them!
    Second, my work directly supports our troops. That was the case BEFORE AND AFTER 9/11.
     
  14. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    BASH?? Not once did I bash our troops! All I said is that there is not a draft. ERGO, they CHOSE to join the armed services. I don't like that they have to die but it is THEIR JOBS to put their lives on the line whether they agree with policy or not!

    It is people like you AND OTHERS who TRY to read WAAAY to much into these simple posts and then make grandiose statements (e.g. "feed their kids" - where did I ever mention this?) about how the Republicans do this or HCA does that. Anything to get that party line across I guess.

     
  15. luvmyredslk320

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    It sure seemed like you did not appreciate them with the snide comment that essentially said that they knew what they were getting into when they signed up. My point is that they and their families deserve MORE for all that they do regardless of what you may think to the contrary.
     
  16. T8erman

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    And what do you INTERPRET that I may think to the contrary? Go ahead, put some words into my mouth for me would you? I am curious to see what else you can come up with from "... no draft".

    I will reiterate what I have said before. I think alot of US are guilty of misinterpreting or over analysing posts. It is often (not always) difficult to determine emotion or intent from our written words.
     
  17. chris

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    T8 -- I agree with that 100%.
     

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