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Bad teenagers?

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by niceguy1229, Dec 22, 2006.

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  1. polar8825

    polar8825 Human Propulsion Expert

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    OK, thanks for the feedback. Honestly, I didn't think calling the cops was a viable alternative due to response time, but they didn't need to know that! My main objectives were to first put a little fear into them, and second, to let them know that at any time, anyplace, someone was probably watching even though they wouldn't know it. Maybe next time they will think before they act. Maybe...?

    My only regret was I should have snapped a pic with my camera phone -- evidence against further transgressions.

    Oh, and if he had run, I would have caught him. Unless he was the second coming of Reggie Bush, I would have caught him. Trust me ;)

    Polar
     
  2. brim

    brim Member

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    Like I said, then what? I dislike punks as much as anyone, but the fact of the matter is there's little anyone short of a parent or cop can do. The best you can do is...

    ...or better yet video, so you can present it to the cops. Even then, it's a crapshoot...the cops have more pressing work to do. A stabbing in Sterling > teens breaking bottles. :(
     
  3. car dad

    car dad New Member

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    I'm not quite as cynical about the so-called "bad teenagers." Not all of them.
    So, yes, you tell them, "Give me your parents' number or I'll call the cops." Most will give up the number.

    The ones who wouldn't are usually doing far worse things than breaking bottles!

    Some of these kids are just bored and have no parental involvement, so breaking a bottle in the street isn't some mean-spirited, evil act to them--it's simply a mindless, impulsive act in the moment. And remember, teens live in the moment. All that matters in life is what is happening at this exact moment. They don't have the benefit of perspective like us old guys.

    I am totally not justifying their actions--in fact, I'd want them held accountable so they can actually learn some perspective and have consequences.

    Anyway, thanks for doing something about it, Polar.
     
  4. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    maybe these are the boneheads who stole our mailbox...
     
  5. crimewatcher703

    crimewatcher703 New Member

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    back to the real point.
    niceguy has a very good point, it seems as when people do the right thing no one even notices anything has been done at all. same with these kids, the majority of the teens are all well behaved, and concerned about this community more then some other parents i know are.
    for example, i overheard a few teenagers talking about all the petty crimes going on in Broadlands and they were worried and talking about fixing problems.
    so why when i come on this website, parents are complaining more then appreciating?
    i mean i can completely agree when money and other valuables are being stolen, but ding and ditch?
    let kids be kids please!
    but this burglary, should be stopped.
     
  6. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    crimewatcher- like anything else, the attention is always drawn to the negative. because the good kids are, well- pretty much just NOT being bad- there's nothing to say about them. if I saw the teens around here proactively PREVENTING crime and pranks by their peers, reporting incidents and being a part of the solution, THEN it would be of note. but there's no reason to pat them on the head just for NOT being a nuisance/criminal- know what I mean?

    this is not to say that I don't recognize that the majority of the kids around here a good kids with better things to do than annoy, pester and commit crimes against their neighbors, but i'm old school. as a teen, you're SUPPOSED to obey the law, you're SUPPOSED to respect your neighborhood, you're SUPPOSED to respect the property of others. that's not PRAISEWORTHY- that's EXPECTED. Part of the problem is people coddling this generation, rewarding mediocrity, lowering standards so everyone passes... but I DIGRESS... that's another topic!

    and if there IS a teen group with the goal of helping the neighborhood weed out the punks who are giving them all a bad name- I will be the first to support them, stand up and applaud them and encourage them. but just NOT being part of the problem isn't enough for a cookie in MY book.
     
  7. brim

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    Heh, exactly.

    Hey, I'm not a rapist, I don't take drugs, and I've never killed anyone...where's my kudos and medal of honor?
     
  8. agnesk

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    I think car dad is right. These teenagers are not being evil, they're being stupid and impulsive. It's the nature of the teenage beast. They just don't think beyond the moment. It's our jobs as parents to teach them how to think ahead and consider consequences.

    Now, I have a teenager and I can tell you that he very well might do something stupid just like that. Not to be evil. Just not using his head and considering the consequence of his actions.

    But if confronted by an adult he WOULD give his number, I WOULD show up and make him clean it up and he WOULD be punished. In fact, he'd probably be doing the lip trembling thing.
     
  9. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    we're not calling them evil- but they should know better than to go into someone''s garage while their friends look out- that's more than stupd and impulsive- that's dishonest, criminal, disrespectful and a kid that will get away with a crime if he can.
     
  10. mom2two

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    I think I have an answer for what to do with these kids...

    let's put them in a giant squirrel suit and leave them in a tree and let the Broadlands Bald Eagle tear them to shreds....
    (see post about Broadlands Bald Eagles...)

    Just a thought!
     
  11. DAD4

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    Better yet, a part time job and/or an after school sport/activity might do the trick.
     
  12. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    or a little attention from overworked mommy and daddy to see that their kid is exhibiting anti social behaviors and is likely causing trouble in the neighborhood...

    these kids aren't angels at home, and an attentive parent can see signs if they look closely.
     
  13. tyger31

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    IF the parent notices the signs....kids today have their own computer and tv in their bedrooms and don't interact with mom or dad much anymore.....my kids are out of the nest - but we didn't give in to them having their own tv or computer.....
     
  14. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    Hey.. I had those things and I think I turned out just fine :) Tho Homer probably disagrees :D
     
  15. tyger31

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    I wasn't saying that teenagers who have those things turn our bad...it's just that SOME teenagers go right to their rooms and don't have any interaction with their parents at all.....parents need to be aware of what is going on. That's all I'm saying.
     
  16. niceguy1229

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    Do you know every family in the Broadlands community? Unless you are speaking on behalf of your own children...
     
  17. niceguy1229

    niceguy1229 New Member

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    Good plan. Actually no. That plan is no better than the "bad teenagers" in this neighborhood.
     
  18. crimewatcher703

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    this is the most aweful message i've read, you should be ashamed of yourself.
    i was completely shocked to read it.
    what if your son or daughter read this message.(hypothetically speaking)
    are you going to say, "no i wasn't talking about you, i was just talking about your friends"
    if i were you i'd take a good look at myself.
     
  19. BroadlandsBuddy1515

    BroadlandsBuddy1515 New Member

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    I understand your point Niceguy, see most people complain and just come to this forum,well most have no reason to complain about the kids if they dont do anything effective to stop them. yes,in this people complain about petty little incidents but act like they had just been robbed at Gunpoint. Much of this is just adults with nothing else to do to think that your little problem by harming or lawfully accusing the kids will put an end.It's as if your little problem will bring the apoclypse,No, think if it's a real problem than handle it the most legal way, dont just sit around and complain.
     
  20. brim

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    IP check?
     
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