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Bad teenagers?

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by niceguy1229, Dec 22, 2006.

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  1. niceguy1229

    niceguy1229 New Member

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    What are you trying to say?
     
  2. crimewatcher703

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    i completely agree, i've been shocked to see all the bad mouthing i've seen.
    i came to this website thinking it would help me learn about this neighborhood. i mean yes, i've lived here for 5 years now, and i know that there are kids out there who are doing things that they could possibly arrested for. i believe we should take action if needed.
    here is an example of when not to complain [yesterday night i group of kids i came to my home, and rang my doorbell once and ran off]
    and if any of you think that was a complaint right there you are very wrong, because everyone here is affraid to be honest with what they use to do as teenagers. i'm not going to give examples but i want you to know that me and a few of my colleagues were talking and we use to do a lot of bad things. so i know that a many of you as youngsters were also doing things that you found fun.
    maybe not as bad as these kids but, it was relativly close.
    so again, my point being. i think if you see a teenager defacing property, or anything extreme, you have every right to tell them, and thier parents.
    but be honest with yourself, so when petty "crimes" like ringing a doorbell and running off happens keep it to yourself.
    if this group of statments makes it seem like i'm defending these kids, i'm not.
    i've been very angry lately cause kids are taking dog waste from the trash cans, and throwing them into my yard.
    but instead of compaining here i'm waiting to see one of them do it again, so i can catch them.
     
  3. Lee

    Lee Permanent Vacation

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    One thing you don't want to do is blow up the mayor of houstons mailbox with a couple of m80's especially if he lives in your neighborhood. :)
    ha ha ha ha ha ha For that matter don't blow up any politicians mail box. ha ha ha The kids got my mailbox a couple of months ago with a baseball bat or something. Paybacks are hell ha ha ha

    Point is I did not call the police or call for a federal investigation I thought it was almost funny, but not quite. :) Kids should not go around and destroy property, but some will some will get caught some will not. Part of growing up especially in suburbia it has always been that way and always will. No sense getting too upset unless it is something serious.

    Kids know when they get to someone word travels fast at school and on the street, and if they know you are pissed it becomes more fun for them to do it over and over. You think they don't read these forums???? Guess again. do you Think they think they will get caught??? guess again kids think they are invincible. :)

    Lee j.
     
  4. crimewatcher703

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    hah, i see what you mean. i find it very refreshing. you are what i am usually, but in this instance i'm looking for these kids, because this isn't amusing to me at all. i also see what you mean by them trying making me even more upset, so i deleted that last post.

    they're not invincible, i feel like if one of them gets introuble maybe as you said word will travel and then will learn.
    i find it to be a long shot, they probably won't care.
     
  5. robzilla

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    It's been a while since I've posted, nice to be back.

    Has anybody bothered to address why teenagers are vandalizing the neighborhood? My guess is that the ones who are doing it are bored (probably because their parents spend their free time posting on this forum).

    Ignoring the benefits of living in Broadlands--and there are many--the neighborhood simply isn't a great place for teens to keep busy, unless they get a job slinging coffee for over-indulgent grownups. There is no community center within walking distance that regularly caters to teens.

    A lot of these posts center around punishment and retribution, but not preventing the problem to begin with. Not your problem you say? My guess it becomes your problem the moment your car gets egged.
     
  6. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    so rob.. the whole 'there is nothing to do' thing doesn't fly.

    Most people grow up in areas where the only thing around within walking, biking, or even 'hitch a ride' distance is HOUSES.

    Kids also have tons of indoor entertainment that kids even 20 years ago didn't have. What house in this neighborhood DOESN'T have a computer or game console?

    Lack of a teen center is no excuse for this.. nor would it be a resolution.

    The closest thing we had to a teen 'center' in our entire tri-county area where I grew up was the shopping mall parking lot!
     
  7. brim

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    I'd say that the kinds of kids causing all of the problems are the type of kid that would be 'too cool' to hang out at a youth center even if there were one.
     
  8. BroadlandsBuddy1515

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    Well that is stereotyping and who knows how these kids are actually like. I doubt they are "too cool" for a teen center.If they had something that appealed to them,they would go. "the Rock" in vienna would be a great example for a good facility it appeals to many and is fun,safe enviroment.
     
  9. crimewatcher703

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    i agree, kids are bored, and i think that's the only excuse. i look around broadlands and these kids are hanging out at fast food stores, safeway, gas stations.
    i mean why would they hang out there?
    i use to go to the movies, and back in south carolina as a kid everyone would head to the beaches. there was something to do, but we speak about kids, they can't drive...well not all of them so they can't go anywhere.
    why should they? this is their community too. they shouldn't be bored here, that's why i'm trying to get some sort of teen center here.
    i mean who's with me?

    i was reading up on why kids do bad things, and #1 is bordom.
    so for the people that complain and say "being bored is no reason to do crimes"
    well facts are facts, so i say we put our ideas' together and build these kids a center where they can get together and "hang out".
    i have faith in that teenagers will stop what they do, and have fun.
    we have the power to do something, so why don't we?
    i say it's time, to do something and this could be the anwser... these teens could stop destroying property and stealing things.
     
  10. redon1

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    sorry to be Debbie Downer, but a teen center won't put a stop to the problem- it may stop a few kids from roaming around and doing dumb stuff, but there will always kids who choose to do the wrong thing regardless of what at the community offers. we all knew THAT KID growing up- some of you WERE "That" kid and you know it! Among other things- lack of supervision and no fear of consequences will let a kid who WANTS to do the wrong thing just do it. THAT fix starts at home, and ends when we catch them, report them to the cops and they get dealt with legally.

    a teen center is the solution for the GOOD kids, who are already finding other things to do beside commit crimes and be nuisances to their neighbors. the troublemakers will simply have one more place to wreak havoc.

    i'm in favor of a teen center, but don't fool yourselves into believing it will change the bad apples...
     
  11. ayayagirl

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    i'm in favor of a teen center, but don't fool yourselves into believing it will change the bad apples...[/QUOTE]

    I agree. The first place to look is at the parents! Kids who are getting into trouble, more than likely have parents who are not involved. And to me, that is the bottom line!
     
  12. joseph.barron

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    IMO, Boredom is the root of most of these problems!

    We need to do more to bring things into the community that kids of this age group can enjoy, without our supervision. And not only attract businesses that cater to these groups, simply to exploit them. Although such businesses should not be discouraged, but are only part of the solution.

    I know the only times I got into trouble, and I was a pretty good kid, was when I was bored. Some communities build rec centers, where neighborhood bands can play, kids can skate board and play computer games, etc. Its funny how little I know about what kids in this age group like to do. They are NOT the same things I enjoyed when I was a kid. They need a place where they can interact and socialize, the way they want to, again without our supervision and adults organizing their activities. Kids at their age are developing their sense of independence, freedom and testing boundaries.

    Look around the community, do you see anything like that for kids of this age group? We can pay now, or pay in repairs to common grounds and loss in property values, or worse some of our own kids to worse.

    Unfortunately, gangs and drugs are far better suited at attracting and capturing these kids and directing their energies. Again, pay now or pay later.
     
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    Sorry I have to agree with the posts on the previous page. A community center is a neat idea but unfortunately, for the most part, I don't think building a community center would help those who are "bored" and commiting vandalism, crimes, etc...

    There are SOOOOO many more options for teens these days compared to when we were growing up. How can they be "bored" with all the school and non-school activities, opportunities, sports, work options (or even malls) around here? Maybe some of these kids just need some attention and encouraging from their parents to get them into something they will enjoy? Just a thought.
     
  14. Lee

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    Having two boys just barely officially not teenagers anymore, although they act at times like they are still 15 :)

    Anyway what I have have noticed these kids become like who their friends are.

    Know who your childrens friends are and a home without parents can be a den of trouble. Kids always know the home to hang out in where they can get away with, well use your imagination. Doesn't mean all the kids there are trouble, but it is something to be aware of. I remember very well from when I was a teen and believe me we knew the non parent homes where we could party after school :)

    Yep if kids have things to do such as hobbies, sports, acting or whatever less chance of trouble. Active kids are just active kids and need to direct that energy in the right direction. I know I was designing homes for money since I was 15 years old in Dallas Texas where I designed my first home and had a nice business going through high school both in Dallas and Houston. I was lucky one to live in an area of Dallas and Houston where the homes being built were all custom and many custom builders unlike here and still is in north Dallas and Houston. Anyway I still got into my share of trouble like the cops bringing me and my friends home after a night of drinking, for quite a lecture from the cops and my parents. Yes they used to do things like that, but not anymore :) Have I ever mentioned the mayors mailbox???? ha ha ha :)

    Really my design business basically kept me out of really big trouble like what I saw happen to other kids especially some of the ones that got handed everything on a golden platter. My parents could well afford to give me anything I wanted yet if I wanted clothes a car etc I had to work for it and pay for it. I hated them for not buying me that brand new convertible Challenger kind of like in the movie vanshing point except that was ugly white and not a convertible and I wanted red. My buddy had one just like that and it was a chick magnet :) But you know looking back my parents really did the right thing. My buddy ended up in jail for a month for doing some really stupid serious stuff. I really believe he got into that trouble because he didn't have something to do that made him feel really good about himself. He did eventually straighten his act out in his thirties and has become very well off in his own right both with personal satisfaction and especially moneywise, only took him an extra tens years or so. I guess in spite of everything most kids will turn out ok.

    Lee j
     
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    That's an excellent way to be a responsible parent! Let someone else or a corporate entity raise and watch your kids!
     
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    Get them involved in sports early. Once they are in high school there is no time for trouble for the student athlete.
     
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    i was bored and i NEVER committed a crime. i read books, played board games, watched tv, did jigsaw puzzles, played with my dog... i found plenty to do withour being a nuisance. we make these kids today think that it's OUR job to entertain them! please.
     
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    Redon, exactly what I was thinking. Why do kids think "I'm bored" is a call for the adults around them to come running with entertainment and things to do - or an excuse to do things they know are wrong? "I'm bored" is one of the things I most hate to hear coming out of a kid's mouth. If you feel bored, think of some things to do and then pick one, and it better be legal! Rrrr, it's one of my pet peeves. My grandmother used to say only stupid people get bored because they can't think of something to be interested in. It bugged us to hear it growing up but there's some truth to it.
     
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    You are so right!
     
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