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Broadlands Hospital Approved!

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by T8erman, Jan 29, 2004.

  1. SK8R

    SK8R On the Clover Meadow

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    I thought the write up in the Broadlands newsletter was pretty insulting.
    First of all the poll was a joke to begin with, no one knew of it unless you read these forums.
    There was no announcement in the newsletter about the mailing out of the poll. I think many people just threw it out with the junk mail thinking it was just an announcement for a mommy gathering or a visit with Barney at the community center.
    The results revealed that the majority of the voters were against the Hospital.
    The write up was hilarious.
     
  2. chris

    chris New Member

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    Thank you for an enlightening and intelligent post. It would have served the interest of the community if the HOA/HCA had taken even the slightest effort to do the poll correctly. Instead, we get to see our HOA funds being WASTED on PAGES of pro-hospital propaganda.

     
  3. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Poll? What poll? I never saw anything about a poll? Truthfully, we never received "the poll".
     
  4. SK8R

    SK8R On the Clover Meadow

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    T8, you didn't know about the poll?
    It came in the regular mail in a plain old business envelope. I never would have known to look for it except that it was discussed on this forum!Otherwise I would have flipped it in the trash, fo' shizz. I do not remember what month it was sent out anymore, sorry...
     
  5. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    Chris, you're back, glad you are OK. Check a few posts back, there was concern and support raised about the hate mail, and intimidation tactics. Are they still happening? This stuff needs to be stopped if it is.

     
  6. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    Donna,

    If you want credibility for statements, I think you should answer my previous post. If the allogations are not correct, I withdraw the inference and would appologize. Otherwise, they still linger.

    "Glad to see an admission that bias and hard work for LHC finally earned a paying position with LHC.

    Was a disclose made to those families "worked for", that the goal was to get a paying position? I bet not. Doesn't do much good to disclose it after the fact, the damage is already done.

    And for full disclosure...I don't think so! Here is another example. Word has it The Washington Post is upset with our distinguished LHC proponent. I understand they were not aware of the "conflict of interest" before posting the biased editorial. I bet that's the last time they let that voice into their newspaper. Deceit is not a good thing. I am glad to hear they are finally on to the deception.

    I've also heard they asked for the editorial not to be "multi-submitted" to other publications. And against that promise the editorial appeared in the Leesburg2day. Hmmm, appears to be a pattern. Do the unethical then apologize. Do LHC employees get a raise or a higher position for this type of act of non-disclosure?

    Maybe Woodward and Bernstein should investigate this further to find out what really is happening here. How about making a full disclosure before the next stunt."



     
  7. chris

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    What!?! That's a travesty! Do you think that the HOA/HCA thought that your voice was worthless?
     
  8. joseph.barron

    joseph.barron New Member

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    I would love to see what source you have from the Washington Post. Are you making this up? In reality, there is no such thing as a "Biased Editorial." All editorials are biased. And almost all of the authors have a 'conflict of interest'. It is Biased journalism that would cause offense for the WP, and if they read our newsletters they would likely shutter at how flagrantly biased writers can get. It is more likely, they printed what they got and had no problem with the source. Its an editorial, get it?

    And what does Donna getting a job with LHC have to do with her penning an editorial. She works in health care and LHC is the hospital in the county where she lives. Big deal. This is not why whe is against the hospital. I see her as a concerned resident of our neighborhood and lives close to where they are dumping this hospital. This is the root of her bias, not her job.

    I see this as a classic example of resorting to character assassination, when you can't win on the merits of your argument.

    Regards,

    Joseph & Taghrid Barron
     
  9. Donna

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    AFGM, As stated in my previous post I will not defend who I work for. (I didnt have to when I was in Pharmaceutical sales and I wont now) I worked UNPAID and volunteered thousands of hours figthing this issue prior to my position with LHC. (Please read previous posts about this issue of my employment).I went to work with them because a position with my experience base was posted and I believe in the people that work there everyday to save lives, work with the sick, care for the elderly and treat the poor. As far as the Washington post, you seem to be the only one concerned about my editiorial...moreso then even the post. What did they say to you when you called them??? (You seem to do a disclaimer for me evertime I post, so I want to thank you for your attention to that) AFGM, I can see why people dont want to post their feelings or concerns here because you seem to pounce on anyone that differs in opinion from you. Unfortunaly or fortunalty you dont intimadate me and just because you feel the need to treat people horribly doesnt mean I will stop figthing to keep HCA out of OUR neighborhood. No one(including myself) has EVER disputed more healthcare being needed in Loudoun county, its this location that is the issue. AFGM, I would welcome the opportunity to meet with you (my treat at starbucks) and discuss this and many other issues. AFGM, if your logic holds true I guess you must be lobbying for a position with HCA, unless of course you already have one. Its so interesting that you are so concerned with this Braodlands issue when you dont even live here.
     
  10. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    You outline a major issue for me. It is not a Broadlands issue it is a COUNTY issue.

     
  11. Donna

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    afgm, I couldn't agree more, it is a county issue and thats why the comprehenive plan is a great building block for the entire county. Could you address the other issues I posed to you. Thank you
     
  12. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Ahem, Of course we knew about the poll. We just happened to have not received one. What? People don't know what a sarcastic SOG I am? hehehehe
     
  13. joseph.barron

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    I agree. And stacking two hospitals at this end of the county, near another county with two other hospitals just over the board, makes no sense. A new hospital should be placed near 15 or near 50, not Belmont Ridge and the toll road.

    But the long term plan of HCA is not to have two hospitals in Loundoun. Just one. And in that they also own Reston, guess who will survive this blood bath. When this hospital is built, the percentage of utilization will drop below 50%. Can any hospital survive. And if they do kill off Loudoun, it will be just one more thing out of our local control.

    Regards,


    Regards,

    Joseph & Taghrid Barron
     
  14. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Loudoun wants to expand it services, T8erman!!! Don't you remember that you've been opposing it in the thread on HCA's effort to block the expansion of cardiac care for the WHOLE county?
     
  16. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    I have not been opposing it more than just pointing out some facts related to it. I am actually for LHC getting CC if they can get approved and start services in a short turnaround.

    Chris - I have never been against LHC other than the long ER visits. Their birthing inn is awesome! I just want to have another option and something closer if possible. That is pretty much it.

    If I am labeled an HCA supporter because of this, than so be it. As far as their business ethics, sure, they suck. But then again, I work in the Defense contracting world. :)
     
  17. chris

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    This is mostly tongue in cheek, so don't get all upset and attack me, everyone....

    So you don't mind wasting tax-payer money to buy a $1,500 wrench, but it's OK for HCA to treat an old man for a cough and call it pneumonia (that's one of the things HCA settled with the government about)! That gives me some insight into your psyche! [8D]

    On a serious note, you say that you want a hospital that is closer. My Word! Loudoun Hospital is five miles away! Most people in this country aren't anywhere close to a hospital as that!
     
  18. Homer Simpson

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    Where do I get a contract to sell wrenchs for $1500? I've yet to see one, I want in!!!!
     
  19. chris

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    I bet HCA will hook you up.
     
  20. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Loudoun is more than 5 minutes, maybe 10. :)

    As to a closer hospital, sure, I am, admittedly, SPOILED!

    As to the $1500 dollar wrench... more like $2500 in tech world. It needs to be "specialized". hehehe

     

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