Failure to Stop: Red Toyota Corolla S

car: red Toyota Corolla, with rear trunk spoiler
time: approx 8am this morning
where: four way intersection Clairborne & Broadlands

infractions:
- failure to yield right of way
- failure to stop

You do not have the right to simply tailgate the car infront of you to follow them through the intersection to avoid having to wait your turn. if this is your son, daughter or significant other who drives a 2004+ red Toyota Corolla S with a trunk spoiler please refer them to the Viriginia Driver's manual and the instructions for a 4 way intersection with stopsigns.

thank you.

 

Why don't you report these to the sheriff's office rather than posting them here? While your cause is noble, nothing can be done about it by public outing. The worst that can happen is someone sees the vehicle in question and shoots them a dirty look.

 

I called the Sheriff's office this morning and spoke to a Sergeant I know and requested additional patrols in our neighborhood, it is getting out of hand, especially the lack of stopping.

He agreed that posting on here would probably just cause friction among neighbors. Plate numbers can be used to follow-up on the complaints.

 

A while back we got a notice from the Sheriff that said "one of your neighbors (a generic term) was concerned yada, yada that you were speeding excessively on the Dulles toll road" please think of others, etc... in our case we were pretty sure it was a car that was driving agressively and got cut off by our car. We remember this incident pretty clearly - but still maybe we were speeding on the toll road.

So I know that the sheriff can send a notice to that person if you get a tag number.

Also a note, I spoke to a gentleman who was driving a car and SPED down claiborne during school flashing hours (doing at least 60) and at the stop signs by the safeway - did not want to wait in line of cars backed up so moved over to striped lane - turned. He happened to be going to Starbucks as was I. So I did say something to him in Starbucks. He was nice about it but probably did not care.

 

Seems to me that there is already "friction among neighbors" simply because of inconsiderate or thoughtless drivers.

I think what volvo_nut is doing is commendable. Keep it up!

 

How is it helping solve the problem? Until vigilante justice is legalized, these notices do nothing but take up space. I agree the thought is admirable, but honestly...what good can it do?

 

I don't see anything wrong with these posts. If you think they are a waste of space, don't read them.

Personally, I would be embarrassed if my license plate number was posted on here for all of my neighbors to see. It would make me think twice about the way I drive. If these posts have the same effect for even one other person and they drive more carefully because of them, then IMO they have served their purpose.

 

It's not like these posts could possibly be wrong either. I mean there couldnt be any way for this type of post to be used as a method of harrasment.

 

Somehow, I just don't think harrasment is volvo_nut's plan and I would guess that most folks would see that. Anyone driving in an irresponsible manner on public streets needs "outing" IMO.

 

Yes, but this type of thread "outing" can easily be abused. Anyone who had it out for a neighbor could post their plate number on here without any proof they did anything wrong. I think we've been through this before, with some advocating "street cameras". Even a call for stepped up enforcement only lasts a few weeks then it's back to SOP. I dunno, but it seems to me some of these outrageous real estate taxes and our 1.23 billion dollar budget should go toward a full blown LCPD. We're getting too big for a Sheriff's department. I don't know what the current ratio is, but there seems to be far too few County Sherrif's cruisers on the roads given the exploding population. They're just spread too thin.

 

Dutchml, I agree, the outing online could become abused. No one wants to be Big Brother let alone watched by him. A more subtle approach to this issue will be explored.

 

While I agree that something should be done to deter traffic infractions in our area, I don't think this is how to do it. I thought people are innocent until proven guilty. In addition your invading people's privacy by posting that they live in Broadlands and own a particular type of car with a specific tag number.

One solution that was posted was contacting the police and let them send a letter to the vehicle owner or contact them about the alleged infraction. Also hopefully with increased calls the police will send more officers to our area to watch for these infractions.

 

There is no privacy out in the public. You can take a picture, record video, whatever if its outside. And this isn't court, innocent until proven guilty holds no weight here in the court of public opinion. They can come on here and refute if they wish.

This is no different then the police posting photos of 'Johns'.

 

There's a big difference between the community knowing you paid a skanky ***** for sex and knowing you were speeding (OH NO!).

Honestly, if you saw one of these described cars sitting in a parking lot, what would you do? Key it? Spit on the window? Leave a Mr. Yuk sticker? No, you'd do nothing...which is why these public outings don't do any good. They work for 'johns' because it's extremely more embarassing for strangers to know that fact about you than it is for them to know you sped.

 

So there should be no community watch, etc., Brim? I think it's good that people aren't sitting idly by while people break the law. Who knows, perhaps if the plate # gets enough complaints, the police will pay them a visit and hopefully scare them into driving more responsibly. Sure, nothing will probably happen, but it's good for people to vent 8)

 

You dont know me very well. I'm the guy who chased down the drag racers during Hurricane Isabell. The problem is not the speeding. It's the attitude and it just leads to a breakdown in society.

Just the other day we're sitting at claiborne/broadlands waiting to turn right ans some guy thinks he's better then all of us and tries to turn right in the blocked off lane. This behavior is everywhere, from those people to good to park at Starbucks (they park in a fire lane) to those people who don't stop at the stop signs.

I'd like to see a COPS (Citizens On Partol) program put into effect. Deputize aome residents and have us harrass all the ne'er do wells.

 

But with what proof? Are you seriously missing that part? An "outing"? Are you kidding me? Let's burn them at the stake next ok? People breaking the law need to be brought before our judicial system, not vigilantism.

Do any of you really think you're qualified to make these kinds of judgements? Trust me, you're not.

 

Vigilantism? Judgments? Give me a break. We're not talking about tracking the person down and slashing their tires. And if someone was going to do that, it would be the person who was "victim" of the reckless driving, not a random person who reads these forums and decides to "punish" the driver on their own.

Having your license plate number and make/model of your car posted on these forums causes, at best</u>, minor embarrassment to the driver. Maybe the driver will drive more safely in the neighborhood in the future. More likely, the driver will continue to drive like the idiot they are and no harm comes from these posts.

IMO, keep posting this information! If someone is unfairly targeted (which I highly doubt would happen), they can defend themselves in these forums. The public debate will draw attention to the issue for all who read these forums and possibly result in a safer community.

 

I am glad to see the issue of speeders and reckless driving is brought up here and have no problems with individual plates/make/model of vehicle being identified. From my own observations of speeders, we're simply waiting for a tragic accident to happen...whether it involves multiple vehicles or a pedestrian. It is a fact - people are driving too recklessly through Broadlands.

 

1. Anyone driving on public streets has NO privacy rights of any kind. You want to drive in private? Buy your own road or racetrack.

2. Anyone seeing illegal and unsafe activity has every right to call attention to it, to challenge it. Forums seem to be an especially safe way to do so, to bring light to egregious behavior and to put these cretins on notice that their behavior is unacceptable.

3. Ignoring or cutting slack to law breakers leads to a breakdown in society. Give them an inch, they'll take a yard.

4. The law abiding majority of the community needs to take a stand and put law-breakers on notice: We won't put up with your anti-social behavior and you'll become a pariah.

5. Who is fit to render these judgments? I would say most reasonable folks and citizens. You don't need to be an ordained Judge to have common sense and reasonable thought.