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Flyers in my door

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by jamesmkelly, Sep 3, 2006.

  1. jamesmkelly

    jamesmkelly Member

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    Is there any way to keep from getting constant flyers placed in my door ? I have gotten ads from cleaners, handyman services, etc.

    Aren't we a no solicitation community ? If not, how can we go about doing this ?

    We rarely use our front door and these flyers build up and are sometimes not noticed. Makes for a great way to tell if someone is out of town.

    These folks are both trespassing and avoiding the postal service (it is illegal to place flyers inside mailboxes without going through the postal system).

    How do we remedy this situation ?

    Thanks for the help.
     
  2. jdhauer

    jdhauer Active Member

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    I'd like to know the answer to this also.

    It's not just fliers on the door handle but fliers stuck through the door, beinding back the weatherstripping and fliers on the mailboxes between the flag and the mailbox, bending back and even tearing off the flag from the mailbox.

    Destruction of property as well as trespassing and a "no soliciation" sign in the front window hasn't worked.
     
  3. neilz

    neilz New Member

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    Broadlands is NOT a no solicitation community. You should talk to the HOA Board about what can be done about this.

    FWIW .. if they are putting flyers in the small newspaper bin under the mailbox, this is not a violation of Postal Regulations, however, if they're placing them inside the mailbox itself, you can report them to the USPS Postal Inspector who can send them a warning to cease & desist.

    What my wife and I used to do was call these companies that left flyers on the door or at the curb, and let them know that we did not appreciate these being left as they let thieves know that no one was at home. We also said that if they continued, and the house was robbed, that they would be held liable and sued for damages.

    Sometimes it worked, sometimes they blew it off. Of course, we also had a burglar alarm on the house, so we didn't worry all that much.
     
  4. lilpea

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    Neil - thanks for the tip on the mailbox. I think in most cases (at least on my street) the unwanted solicitations are left on/in the door handle or wedged into the door frame, in the past these flyers have stuck to the paint on our front door...
    Would this be considered as trespassing?
    From your experience on the HOA board, would it be helpful if we kept the flyers and turned them into the HOA?
    Thanks again...FYI...we miss you...
     
  5. neilz

    neilz New Member

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    AFAIK .. there's nothing that the HOA can do unless there is a "no solicitation" bylaw added to the Broadlands declaration.

    I'm not sure if you can call this trespassing, unless you have a 'no solicitation' sign on the door, and signs are not normally authorized if they are visible from the street. (Catch 22).

    My suggestion is that the homeowners petition the HOA Board to see what it would take to make Broadlands a 'no solicitation' community.
     
  6. neilz

    neilz New Member

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    To add to what was said in a previous post, along with damage to weatherstripping, they also walk across lawns and planting beds without so much as a 'by your leave'.

    AFAIK .. there's nothing that the HOA can do unless there is a "no solicitation" bylaw added to the Broadlands declaration.

    I'm not sure if you can call this trespassing, unless you have a 'no solicitation' sign on the door, and signs are not normally authorized if they are visible from the street. (Catch 22).

    My suggestion is that the homeowners petition the HOA Board to see what it would take to make Broadlands a 'no solicitation' community.

    The town of Baldwin Bourough where I live now is a 'no solicitation' community. If a business wants to do 'door-to-door' flyers, etc, they have to pay a $500 fee for a license to do so.

    We've found that this eliminates 99% of such trash, the 1% that gets through is usually notified by the town police about the violation, and it doesn't occur again.
     
  7. jjenkins

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    When I lived in the village, the condo was a no solicitation, and it didn't matter, I still got flyers all the time on my door. It's a PITA, but even if we pass a no solicitation rule I don't think it is going to help
     
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    this drives us crazy as well! especially since some of the really jam it in the door so much, that you can literally see the paper on the inside of the door (in the house!). it's so obnoxious. we would be all over helping get broadlands become a no solicitation community!
     
  9. lilpea

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    Maybe we could request this action item be reviewed/added to the Agenda for the next HOA meeting?
    Cliff, Staci, Donna - any thoughts?
    Is there a formal process for homeowners to request the HOA Board's consideration of this proposed "by-law" addition?
     
  10. L0stS0ul

    L0stS0ul hmmmm

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    I would be up for a "no solicitation" bylaw. Just point me to where I should sign :)
     
  11. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    If we go the route of 'no solicitation', what happens to the Girl Scouts and their cookie sales? What about the Boy Scouts and the mulch sales? What happens to the neighborhood kids who need to sell such things as wrapping paper, etc for the local school? Would these folks be affected by such a bylaw? If so, sorry, but I could not support such a law at the expense of important activities for our local kids.
     
  12. jdhauer

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    The neighborhood kids selling wrapping paper aren't supposed to be going door to door in the first place. It's considered a safety issue. (Especially with registered sex offenders living in the community - see other thread.)

    As for the cookie sales and mulch sales, there are alternative ways to sell that don't involve going door to door. Broadlands could offer free advertising in the newsletter to community youth organizations at the troop level and perhaps could set up a day at the Nature Center (like the Farmers Market) where community members could go over to order mulch and buy popcorn and cookies - this is in addition to the regular times the troops do outside Giant and Safeway and the like.

    Those are just a couple of ideas off the top of my head and I'm sure that others could come up with more.
     
  13. Homer Simpson

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    I've never bought cookies or mulch from door to door, the cookies are always at safeway and the mulch is in the newsletter.
     
  14. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    They go door to door with their parents - they don't go alone.

    They already advertise in the newsletters.. and obviously door to door has a higher hit-ratio for them then some other methods.. because they still do it :)

    Its like.. why do people send spam? BECAUSE IT WORKS :)
     
  15. swimfamily

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    This is just awful. I do not wish to feel threatened by these soliciters into giving money. We should enforce the no solicitation rule. Reguardless of what orginazation them come from i.e. girl scouts and boy scouts we shouldn't allow them in our great community.
     
  16. neilz

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    FWIW ... I was never threatened by anyone going door to door for the Girl Scouts, if I didn't want to contribute, I gave a friendly "no thanks" and closed the door. As far as charity groups, there can be a 'charity clause' in any 'no solicitation' rule that covers this type of thing.
     
  17. qzpmal

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    I am not too concerned about the kids selling cookies, or mulch, or wrapping paper or whatever. I am more concerned about the grown men who come trying to sell firewood, alarm systems, furniture, etc. This could be very uncomfortable to some stay at home moms especially with children in tow, and pets running under feet and doubly worse if she has just put a new born down for a nap.

    For the safety and security of my family, I have asked my wife to not answer the door during the day if she is home.

    Plus, most businesses that drop their flyers off like deck companies, patio companies, cleaners, etc. stuff them in our doors. Every day I have two to three stuffed in my door. I am getting tired of having to clean them up especially since half usually get blown all over our yard.

    So, I would support the no solicitation.
     
  18. Carol Al-Ajroush

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    Although one could put out a no solicitation sign in most cases it gets ignored. Either the adults/young adults distributing fliers cannot read English or the kids are not aware of what the sign means.

    I'd also like to comment that while living in Broadlands I routinely had kids unaccompanied by parents come knocking on my door to sell items. It's not as if I knew them either; my husband and I do not have young children so it was surprising that so many youngsters would show up at our door.

    So requests whether by solicitors or kids or individuals distributing with fliers are something we have contended with during our time in Broadlands. It would be nice to return and find that a resolution has been passed to ban such activities.
     
  19. DAD4

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    Wake up. In my opinion the "Community" wouldn't be so great without the girl and boy scouts.
     
  20. Dutchml

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    ...a failed brownie turned Scientologist...
     

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