HCA Seeks to Deny Citizens Access to Healthcare

I think we will have to wait until we hear from Chris and Mary Jo. As stated, I don't think anyone wants to take this claim lightly. If in fact true, I think all would denounce this action against Chris/MaryJo (or whoever was refered to) and support them. (wouldn't that be a first). In fact, depending on the evidence provided it may be something the legal authorities would look into. [/quote]

If true this is very disturbing. There is no way to get phone numbers w/o them being posted in the user's bio. Neither Chris nor MaryJo have email, phone or address listed so how is this happening?
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I am continuing to look into the issue and am gathering more examples. I have shared them with a few people on here who can be trusted and with whom I am close.

I am also concerned for those on the pro-hospital side. Remember they allege that they have been the targets of hate mail. I'd like to know more about that...

 

I'm glad to see that someone out there is a TV junkie like me. The word use was in honor of the Spike Lee joint as much as it was in honor of Richard Hatch.

Let me be clear -- this is not an allegation, but the HOA does have control of this forum and has publicly expressed 100 percent, unwavering support of HCA's actions. Again, this is not an allegation, but I would not be surprised to find out that our contact information made it into the hands of people who would use it for hate mail, etc.

 

Chris, before this gets to out of hand. Really, have pro-hospital people been targetted as well? I've not heard of that. Is this turning into something much bigger than we are aware of. I think it very important for the community to know. This can't be tolerated. People have a right to opinions. If it is true, we should alert the authorities. Have you thought of turning over your evidence and information investigation data to someone?

Chris writes:

I am also concerned for those on the pro-hospital side. Remember they allege that they have been the targets of hate mail. I'd like to know more about that...
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afgm,

I was the pro-hospital person who got several nasty emails back in the fall and winter of 2002. I am not complaining, I just wanted to point out that the anti-hospital crowd aren't the only ones getting hate mail.

 

VW made the comment. It helps if you actually read the messages in the forums before trying to stir up trouble in a community that you don't even live in.

 

Chris-
Regarding your post-
"Let me be clear -- this is not an allegation, but the HOA does have control of this forum and has publicly expressed 100 percent, unwavering support of HCA's actions. Again, this is not an allegation, but I would not be surprised to find out that our contact information made it into the hands of people who would use it for hate mail, etc."

Let me be clear- this is not an allegation, but I wouldn't be surprised if the anti-HCA people send themselves hate mail so they can claim it is from the pro-hospital people.
Your non-allegation allegation is disgusting.
Carry on as the self-proclaimed "LHC Cheerleader".

 

Is there no way that the Admin can trace the emails back to those that sent them. Regardless of if they were sent to Pro-Broadlands Hospital or anti Broadlands Hospital this is disturbing and should be looked into.

 

Instead of mud-slinging and name calling, could we please focus on the real issue? HCA is trying to deny access to basic, life-saving cardiac care to critically ill children and all of the residents of this county. And it is is doing with the support of the Homeowner's Association. How can the representatives of the Homeowners Association do this? If anyone of them reads this bulletin board, could one of them please respond?

 

Actually, HCA is not trying to deny anyone access to cardiac care. They are simply trying to prevent LHC from providing this care.
For many years, HCA and a couple others are the only hospitals to provide cardiac care in NoVa. I believe LHC is only "stepping up to the plate" now because of HCA.

If LHC gets approval AND remains the only hospital (for years and years (sad)) in Loudoun, at least we will have cardiac care.

 

You see, chris, this is the problem that I have with the "claim" of hate mail and threatening phone calls. As someone who has signed up for at least</u> one username on this forum, I am sure you are aware that you don't even need to give your name in order to become a member of the forums, and you certainly do not have to provide your address or phone number. Thus, even if, in a wild conspiratorial bid to squelch all anti-hospital supporters, the HOA provided our login information to "people who would use it for hate mail, etc.," then all they would get is an e-mail address.

So, even the HOA could not provide address and/or phone numbers of anti-hospital supporters. That is why your allegation of hate mail and threatening phone calls makes no sense. Unless someone personally identifies themselves on these forums, there is simply no way to get someone's personal information. I also note that Donna, who is one of the most vocal anti-hospital people on these forums, has</u>
personally identified herself. Presumably, one could easily find her phone number and/or address to send her hate mail if one wanted to. Yet, she has not claimed to receive any such "hate mail" or threats (in fact, I thought that she posted an admission this weekend that she has never</u> received threatening phonecalls, etc., but I can't find the post -- maybe she deleted it).

So again, I request to see this hate mail. You and MaryJo both claim to have seen it (MaryJo only 1 day after joining these forums). Thus, if it exists you must have it electronically. You cannot send attachments through these forums, so feel free to e-mail it to me at pats_fan_20148@hotmail.com

If you are unable or unwilling to do so, I request that you and MaryJo please stop talking about the hate mail and threats. It defames all of Broadlands. The members of this forum and I will form our own judgments about your credibility and the veracity of your future posts.

 

HCA is most definitely trying to make sure that people in this county do not have access to life-saving cardiac care services. Even if HCA was eventually approved to build here the hospital will not be open for many years. Loudoun is an existing hospital, and can quickly add cardiac care and save lives.

Unfortunately, it is the children who will suffer most.I have a critically ill child and guess I am more sensitive but it was been a real eye-opener to see how little the Homeowners Association and the hospital supporters care about HCA does not care for us, our kids, or our health needs.

 

This has gone on long enough. Speaking to representatives of the HOA, how do the recent developments affect your personal feelings of HCA? Things are different now, with respect to new homeowners' opinions (your neighbors' voices), than they were years ago when decisions were made based on proffers from our long lost "developer", Terrabrook. Is our HOA fighting an outdated fight? When it comes to issues regarding the Chickacoan mall, finger pointing goes back and forth as to who said what and who did what and here's what you get. Then the question of the hospital zoning suddenly becomes, "this is what [Terrabrook] proffered, so it will be done." I don't think anyone around here knows what's what anymore.

 

That's crap. If Loudoun cared, they would have added the cardiac care years ago.

 

Please keep in mind the state regulates the types of services that are to be approved and when. You might want to do a little internet search on HCA not only on how they are constantly trying to keep not for profits (and others) from opening cardiac care facilities, but other interesteing topics as well....makes you wonder.

 

I'm sorry but I was raised in a home where we were taught that you didn't call someones' beliefs "crap". I don't know you but I'd never say something like that to you. I'd like to ask you for the same.Is that too much to ask?

The point that we should keep in mind is that Loudoun wants to offer the service now and can have it up and running before HCA can but HCA says that everyone in Loudoun can just go to DC if they want cardiac care. Like I said before, it was been a real eye-opener to see how little HCA cares about our health needs. Why are so many people supporting HCA when they do this to us even before they might become our neighbors?

 

Opinions are opinions. Your crap is someone else's gospel, just as my crap is someone else's gospel. You can call me worse and it won't bother me. Life is too short to waste complaining over a hospital. We're not talking about a strip joint here.

 

MaryJo: I'm so sorry that you, as the mother of a critically ill child, had to experience this. I hope you ignore it.

As you have learned over the last few weeks as a newcomer here, the HCA/HOA clique is only interested in childish namecalling. Anyone who has questions about HCA's motives in denying *all* of us access to basic, life-saving healthcare is singled out for this kind of hateful vitriol. I guess that they don't care at all that HCA thinks that we should all drive 40 miles to get our kids state-of-the-art treatment.

 

As long as the pro-HCA supporters continue such childishness, I will continue to report their actions. In typical HCA-style, you just want to shut the other side up. Your tactics will not work with me. I have shared the accounts of the hate mail and other threats with people of trust and, as I said, will continue to do so.