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Hill across from "Sunoco"

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by boxerluvr168, Feb 14, 2007.

  1. mamatothree

    mamatothree New Member

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    I'm not agreeing or disagreeing but I'm tired of the HOA being "blamed" for situations over with which they have no control...this property belongs to Van Metre, not the homeowners association...please direct your ire to the appropriate individuals...
     
  2. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    What about the kids sleding into the road? Is it the person driving the car's responsibility to NOT be in the road to avoid hitting him? What about the parents standing in the road trying to divert traffic around their kids sledding into the road? This isn't 'what if' its what happens every year.

    Face it.. some kid is going to get hurt.. and VM will be sued over it. Argue its stupid.. it is.. but that's what will happen. It's a liability for VM.
     
  3. agnesk

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    Well, the cost will be much greater if they get sued. If they are that concerned about their liability, they should get rid of it. It's not a "natural" hill. It's a man made one. It's an open invitation for kids to play on. Sorry, but they have the power to get rid of it if they really want to.
     
  4. agnesk

    agnesk New Member

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    The hill by the Greenway is not walking distance for us. We live by the "hill".
     
  5. Lee

    Lee Permanent Vacation

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    They could landscape the hill so it would be impossible to sled down.

    Lee j.
     
  6. MD_boy

    MD_boy New Member

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    What am I missing?
    The original post stated that VM had put up a fence and called the police to stop people from sledding. Regardless of which side you take on this issue the fact remains that VM owns the property and has every right to do this. It's private property. Period.
    Here's what I don't understand.
    According to Boxerluver168's post when the police arrived they did nothing to evict the trespassers and even participated in vandalizing the fence by pushing a sledder through it.
    If these statements are true, the actions of the police officers involved were at best irresponsible.
    I hope that this is not really what happened.
     
  7. crimewatcher703

    crimewatcher703 New Member

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    well, i'm reading more and more into this matter.
    i saw kids wandering around with sleds, i'm guessing going home, or maybe looking for another hill.
    i talked to my relatives in colorado, and they have some of the highest hills (look like mountains) and they know kids sled down it when it snows and so they added dirt and sod. making it impossible to fly out into the street.
    so maybe we should do the same?
     
  8. gryphon

    gryphon Banned User

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    lgortman, it becomes my business when I end up with a five-year old kid splattered on the grille of my Saab. It completely covers the gryphon emblem and it's hard as heck to clean up. Never mind the time that I will need to spend with police reports and talking to the attorneys of the kid's parents with stupid questions like "Why were you driving down the road when you should have known my kid was going to cross the road on a run-away sled?

    In all sincerity, please read the story that joy posted:

    http://wjz.com/local/local_story_045182024.html

    Who wants their kid to end up in intensive care because they let her sled down a hill into oncoming traffic?
     
  9. Lee

    Lee Permanent Vacation

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    here is the way I see the situation.

    Hill kids have sledded for years

    Hill is dangerous because of traffic

    Solution make hill the kids can't slide down anymore.

    As said before three possible solutions landscape in away it is impossible to slide some kind of nice fence or take hill down or this will continue to go on forever until it is solved permently. Calling the police every time is not an option or telling people not to is either.

    It would be so simple to solve this without causing an uproar.

    Lee j.
     
  10. agnesk

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    I agree with Lee that the kids are going to keep sledding on that hill...they are on there right now.

    Also, I believe the police were just trying to show that the orange fence would not be a viable solution; it was easy for the kid just to go right through the fence. They did tell the kids who were there to leave, so I don't think they acted irresponsibly.
     
  11. southernwalkres

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    Lee, been hitting the bottle already? :tgif:
     
  12. MD_boy

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    Thanks for the clarification.
     
  13. kahlua1

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    Sorry I have to agree that hills that spill out near a busy road should not be used for sledding. It is challenging enough for drivers to navigate thru the barely plowed streets without worrying about running over a child. Or maybe they should at least post a sign "sled at your own risk" and remove the liability of folks driving normally down Waxpool with no intention to run over a child that accidentially slips into the road.

    Another spot - This morning as I was turning right from Claiborne onto Ellzey there were kids (teens I think) sledding down the hill at the corner (across from the house that house that roots for the Terps). I could not believe it. Some cars come around that corner pretty fast. That is a terrible spot and one of those kids could have (or will be) hurt.
     
  14. Lee

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    Why??/ Need some company????? Ha ha ha ha ha ha :)

    Lee j
     
  15. tyger31

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    Sorry - to me, that is not that far away, but then - I walk 3-4 miles everyday....
     
  16. lgortman

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    Ok, everyone is worried about hitting a child and I agree in that aspect. The idea of the parents parking down at the bottom in the first lane is the best reponse I've read and saw. I know we used to block complete streets to pull the kids around behind the 4-wheeler on sleds. I am sure that would go over well here in the "BROADLANDS" I just think that kids have been doing it for years and it was the first placed mentioned to me when I moved her almost 2 years ago. I was told go to the Hill across from Sunco, it's a blast. It's all about the kids having fun and almost all accidents are avoidable if the risk is defined up front and a plan is put into action. If parents want their kids on the hill, it's their responsibility. Van Metre owns everything in the Broadlands and to see them try to do something with that hill would be a joke when they can't even build a decent house without defects, but at least I can say they try to fix all the problems even if it takes a couple of years. Why don't Van Metre build a decent park for all the kids in the area?
     
  17. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    As if that would only work. As soon as someone got hurt.. they'd absolve themselves of all responsibility and sue someone else. It's true and it happens here in broadlands as well.. for instance suing the HOA.

    People will sue over anything if they can associate a name to something.

    Trip on a root? SUE!
    Fall down? SUE THE STORE!
     
  18. GeauxTigers

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    Are you sure? What about a sledder going into the street but not being able to stop before the second lane? Now you have a large obstacle (the car) blocking the line of sight, giving a driver even less warning of an impending collision. This sounds much like the boy who died, where a bush kept him hidden before entering the street.
     
  19. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    Does the Broadlands HOA allow basketball hoops in cul-de-sacs?
     
  20. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Don't see what this has to do with sledding AFGM.

    But yes, we do. As long as they are in the driveway! :D
     

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