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Hill across from "Sunoco"

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by boxerluvr168, Feb 14, 2007.

  1. Silence Dogood99

    Silence Dogood99 New Member

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    Let's hope for an early snow! I love that hill.
     
  2. Show_hunters

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    Ditto, crazy.......:screwy:
     
  3. VoiceGuy07

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    Even with the "Don't Sled Down the Hill and Into the Street" signs posted on the hill - saw kids sliding into the street today. Will never understand, although someone will debate, why folks think that's a smart thing to do. It's the car's fault for being in the street, right?
     
  4. Silence Dogood99

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    I don't think anyone thinks it's "smart." From my perspective, on the dozen or so occasions when I have been there with my son or seen a bunch of happy kids playing there, I have NEVER seen them going into the street or even near the street. I see the kids bail off well beforehand.

    I know, I know...it's just so rare these days to see a bunch of kids who don't know each other outside together in the community playing, having fun and laughing while doing something simple.

    Yes, I know...until someone gets seriously hurt...but in MY experience there, I've never seen it as risky...but I know others have.
     
  5. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    Well I guess you haven't seen it all then - because when people STAND IN THE ROAD to try to steer traffic around the sledders - there is a problem.

    So blame the few who can't police themselves for ruining it for all
     
  6. Silence Dogood99

    Silence Dogood99 New Member

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    Morons! If I saw that, I'd hit the parents on purpose. :screwy:
     
  7. marielaveau

    marielaveau Voodoo Queen

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    You've never seen the parents do that? It happens almost every time I drive by when there are sledders. Parents standing in the road with GIGANTOR SUVs against the curb, blocking any visibility to children flying pell mell down the hill. I love a good sled as much as the next person, but not at the expense of basic common sense safety.
     
  8. Silence Dogood99

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    We've been there or by there at least a dozen times, and I've only seen or experienced Normal Rockwell scenes.

    Agree that it's ridiculous if kids are going into the street.
     
  9. Mr Rogers

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    The sledding of my youth included eating trees and pavement of parking lots. I needed 6 stitches after tobagganing with my Dad and falling off. My cousin also needed 20+ stitches after tobagganing with my Dad on another occasion. Both were on golf courses with no obstacles; just bumps and ice.

    The moral, dont fo sledding with my Dad!
     
  10. Silence Dogood99

    Silence Dogood99 New Member

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    The best memories you have, too, aren't they?! What an awesome Dad :)
     
  11. VoiceGuy07

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    Yes, but even better was when you actually convinced your mother to sled down the hill. Screams could be heard from miles around!
     
  12. Silence Dogood99

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    We grew up in Baltimore and would block off our street (we lived at the top of a street on a hill). All of the neighborhood kids would come to our house and we'd go down that street 4 or 5 wide, wiping each other out into trash cans and parked cars.

    Plus my Dad would ice down the back yard (he'd go out late at night, running a hose from the bathtub, out the window, and spray down the yard until it was built up with ice) so we could sled, skate and break ribs. When we threw snowballs at cars and took off running, we knew it was ice under the snow...whereas the poor guys chasing us found themselves falling like the thieves in Home Alone. Good times.
     
  13. Sunny

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    we did this in my neighborhood too. if there was a snowfall coming, everyone would park at the top of the hill because there was no hope getting their car up it. it was much too steep. so we would all pack one side of the street really firmly- all of the kids- and make a good jump about halfway down.
    we would also pack trails on the steep hills in the woods- that was kind of dangerous- with all of the trees!
    we also used to wear a few layers of empty wonder bread bags over our sneakers and like 3 layers of jeans on top of long underwear. i don't think i ever had snow pants as a kid- but was in the snow all of the time! we had a horseshoe of 6 foot tall bushes about 75 feet across that would get covered in like a foot and a half of snow, and it would melt slightly during the day and that top layer would freeze at night. the next day we would hoist each other up ontop of it and run back and forth until we would *WHOOP* fall through! then back up again. then there's the old trick my brother would play every year (he still tries it) "look sunny, what's that on the ground there? no look closer- whaty in the world can that be?" and then YANK he would pull a branch and cover me in a blanket of snow.
     
  14. Brassy

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    Ah those were the days. That is definately a lot different than the hill situation we have here!
     
  15. AshburnGuyy

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    don't you like thinking of all the snowtime memories you all had as children? you write it with such enthusiasm and detail that it seems as if to you it were only yesterday. don't you want your kids to have that same experience? to have enjoyed their childhood so much that, one day they can tell their children about all the fun that they had on snow days and the hills that they once played on. why should we take this hill away from them? why should we take away possible memories for them? i think that these kids should be able to look back at their past and remember all the fun that they had, like you did, not remember all of the limitations of their society. would you want your snow day memories to be erased and forgotten?
     
  16. Silence Dogood99

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    agree ashburnguyy, and i've been totally in favor of this sledding hill because when i have been there, kids and parents have used it responsibly...

    BUT BUT BUT the big difference here is that NO ONE really opposes the hill...they just oppose one of our kids sledding out in front of a car and getting killed!

    So I imagine some will rightly say, "Well, if they slide into the street, we will not only be taking their memory away, but their life!"

    Tough when reality bumps into our idealism :)
     
  17. Sunny

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    there were plenty of places we were kicked out of, not allowed to go, police called, etc. when i was a kid too.
    we would also sneak onto golf courses and sled there, or get dropped off at the middle school and sled into a fence. there weren't bountiful hills and no rules "only yesterday".

    i don't know why i have been commenting on everything lately.
     
  18. T8erman

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    And all it will take it for one child to be seriously injured or killed....

    AHHHHH, the memories!

    Look, I am not against sledding in the least bit but when a sled-run ENDS into a busy road then that is an unacceptable risk.
     
  19. MadCat07

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    And it's not as though this is the only hill in the area from which we can create memories. I took my daughters out sledding last week on a decent-sized hill which doesn't spill out into a road and didn't detect that their enjoyment was at all diminshed because of the lack of a risk factor at the end of the run.
     
  20. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    It's simple.. most of those stories are coming from people not acting on private property.. and in an age where victims didn't sue the property owners for their own actions.

    Go sled down a VDOT street if you want a comparable.

    Welcome to current times - We are talking about property owned by organizations - not individuals - which makes them a higher target AND one that must account for insurances and liability coverage. Second, we live in times where people sue you over their mistakes. Roll your ankle while running on the trail? SUE THE HOA! I'm not kidding - this type of crap happens.

    Your 'problems' are those of a larger society and system that is on track to make the world a sterile place where people don't interact because soon insulting someone will be a lawsuit that will bury you.

    Your complaints are with the larger world - not with the HOA or VM.
     

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