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HOA Violation - visible garbage can

Discussion in 'Homeowners Corner' started by rharse, Dec 12, 2006.

  1. sharse

    sharse TeamDonzi rocks!!

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    Hubby may make me sleep on the couch for admitting this, but last night he DID get the toter out of the garage without removing the car or the minivan. And we too are in a Parkdale.
     
  2. yrofthesnake

    yrofthesnake New Member

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    Send him over and show me how. I may be missing something but the only way I see that can coming out of my garage with both vehicles in is if the "can" can physically morph and shape shift.:D
     
  3. signifer

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    Today we received a notice that we were in violation of the rules by not storing our trashcan out of sight. This is annoying in several different ways.

    First, we store our trashcan in the garage. It got really wet and messy Monday and we did leave it out a little longer than usual to let it dry out before putting it away, but it is never stored outside. This may have been the infraction.

    Second, the way the wind blows, other people's trash cans seem to stop outside our townhouse. We leave them there, expecting the owner will want it back, but often the trash cans stay there for days. This probably was the infraction. It seems completely unreasonable to blame us for other people's apathy.

    Third, the letter is rather nastily worded for a first warning. I would think a gentle reminder rather than threats of fines and other punishment would be in order and the nasty note should be reserved for people who repeatedly don't abide by the rules.

    Richard
     
  4. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Signifier-
    The date of the infraction should be in the letter. The HOA should not be citing violations on the day of trash pickup, for obvious reasons. If this was the case, let me know.
    If you do not believe the can was yours on the date in question, raise that objection. I can see how, especially in townhouse sections, the can could be attributed to the wrong address.
    Unfortunately, many people do not resolve issues until the third notice, which requires a certified letter to be sent to notify the resident of as Board hearing. If a slightly more stern first notice can avoid the wasted time and expense, I don't have a problem with it.
     
  5. KTdid

    KTdid Well-Known Member

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    Do not take the letter as a personal attack. Gentle reminders? The HOA has to have a standard letter. It's strictly business and I pay for it monthly.
    As for your neighbors cans and bins blowing into your yard - do you leave them in your yard until retrieved?

    Back to the topic of storing bins in the garage - what ever happened to storing the bin in the back yard, out of sight? I'm curious why this is not an option.
     
  6. sharse

    sharse TeamDonzi rocks!!

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    Spacial geometry is his forte'. He once used the Pythagorean Theorem to prove to the delivery guys that our new furniture would in fact fit into our home office when they said it couldn't be done. True story.
     
  7. msflynn

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    Though it may be out of view from the front of your house it is not out of veiw from you neighbors behind you (or in the townhouses the neighbors right next to you). Also a trash can left outside is an invitation for all kinds of scavangers to come and help themselves. This in turn leaves the trash they don't want strewn all over your backyard and elsewhere as it blows through the community.
    If a trash can does not fit in the garage there are ways to build a enclosed area to store it outside but you would have to get Modifications approval for the plans. Check out the HOA guidlines on the website to find out what you need to do if interested in this route.

    Staci
     
  8. KTdid

    KTdid Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I have to look at all the garbage bins in my neighbor's back yards. This is precisely my point. The bins are in the back yard and they are bins with covers to prevent critters assault. But they are in the back yard, on decks, on patios, etc. and are not visible from the street (which I understood is the whole basis of this debate).

    If you had suggested people do not want to haul the bin from the back yard to front because of distance or inconvenience then the explanation would be more plausible to me.
     
  9. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    The HOA Board discussed this issue at the last meeting.
    The Board has determined that a fence meets the requirement of screening. Yes, a can could still be visible from view from some other lot, but we find that this is consistent with other guidelines in our community that consider a fence to be screening.
    I welcome anyone with an opinion on this to address the Board at our next meeting, Tuesday Feb 13, 5:30-7:30pm at the Nature Center.
     
  10. volvo_nut

    volvo_nut New Member

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    would a vertical strip of lattace, sticking out the left side of the garage be acceptable? we could put a small "pad" behind it to hold the can -- lattace or a medium tree/bush.

    We'll have to move some of the kids bikes and things out of the garage but glad I read this thread - need to move our can outta sight! :)

    update: ok, got the ol' Volvo wagon a little deeper into the garage, just enough to get the can inside the door. All rather silly, at least the trash cans are uniform throughout the neighborhood. :) But as someone said above 'we signed...' and "give an inch..." Just so long as we don't allow primered, half built 1970s Chevy's & Fords on blocks in the driveways, I think the neighborhood will be ok. Although, a 1969 Camaro convertible would be a nice project!
     
  11. broken skull

    broken skull New Member

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    As a future resident in the community I know how I can earn some extra money...selling camoflauge trashcans.
     
  12. Kaosdad

    Kaosdad Will work for Rum

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    But if you don't allow cars on blocks, how am I going to hide the couch &beer keg?
     
  13. KTdid

    KTdid Well-Known Member

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    In your garbage bin;)
     
  14. Mr Rogers

    Mr Rogers Active Member

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    It is better to look good, than feel good!
    :eww: Yech! You want me to store my garbage in my attached garage? That is a part of my house, and only seperated from my kitchen by a thin manufactured door. Perhaps I should air condition my it so it doesn't stink to "high-heaven" and permeate into the kitchen of my house? Ohh, and please to be defining a common area.

    If I don't cool the garage, it would make for some appetizing family meals when the garage temp hangs around 80 degrees F in August! :hurl:

    A part of my job duties relate to food service, and in the county in which I work, it is against code to leave any disposed food indoors after closing. All garbage must be removed from any building and put in an appropriate outdoor container, which INCLUDES heavy-duty covered garbage cans.

    Unless we have coyotes, I'm not sure what wildlife could possibly get into one of these cans. I am 5'11" and well over 200 lbs, and if I don't exert enough force, the lid will come slamming right back down.

    The rule is purely about aesthetics. Just don't leave it in your front yard. The side should suffice.

    I was wondering...since we are concerned about uniformity is appearance, who approved the Vestal's Gap home who converted about 2/3 of their front yard into a brick garden/sculpture/eyesore?

    That certainly detracts from the look of our community more than a garbage can that is neatly tucked against the side of the house.
     
  15. Mr Rogers

    Mr Rogers Active Member

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    Try invisible ones!
     
  16. broken skull

    broken skull New Member

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    I'm still trying to perfect the formula. As of right now I can make the can invisible but no one can ever find it, which leads to the piling up of trash bags outside of the house.

    Hopefully I can perfect the trashcan that looks like a bush while I am messing with science.
     
  17. Kaosdad

    Kaosdad Will work for Rum

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    Monkeys.

    We need flying monkeys to take our garbage directly to the land fill.


    Oh, and on the return trip they need to go by the ABC store & get gin.
     
  18. Villager

    Villager Ashburn Village Resident

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    Well, you could add one of these to the foot of your driveway and kill several birds with one stone: discourage animal waste in your yard, "enhance your landscape environment", discourage littering, better wind resistance, and annoy your garbage company. Probably against HOA regulations, though. And it's only $695! Pocket change! ;)

    Frankly, recycling is a good option for cutting down on your trash output but it still results in big bins that don't fit in your garage.
     
  19. Silence Dogood99

    Silence Dogood99 New Member

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    If your can is invisible, will it still fly across the Broadlands in this wind?
     
  20. neilz

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    Are you talking about the toters ?? I had a raccoon get into the one I had on Marsh Creek one year when the lid flew open in the wind. Talk about trashing the yard ... sheesh .

    The side yard would suffice, if the can was screened from view. As far as the Vestal's Gap home ... if you're talking about one of the houses on the left as you're driving from Claiborne .. that area was the model homes section for a few years prior to the opening of Southern Walk, the HOA had no input into any of the landscaping/hardscape done there.
     

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