Neighborhood watch and the Security guards are working

Just wanted to let everyone know that last night around 11 we did catch one of the teenagers who has been breaking into the SW pool. I am not able to discuss any further details but wanted those of you who have volunteered your time to the neighborhood watch to know we appreciate your help and it is being put to good use. To those of you thinking about it please join our ranks with just a few people we can only cover so much area. Please keep your eyes and ears open and if you see anything and call it in to non emergency number 703 777 1021. or 911 as you see needed

Staci

 

Congratulations. If it's proven, I hope they're prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. He/she? and their family should be permanently banned from future use of any of the pools and slapped with about 500 hours of community service, cut in half if he/she? rats out on any accomplices. And full compensation for all expenses incurred to clean-up/replace all the items they had a great time destroying.

 

Why punish the family if they had nothing to do with it??!!

"Sins of the father"...

 

Wow.....are you suggesting that the parents aren't responsible for their children?? I actually like this idea - while I'm not naive enough to think that it will change behavior much, maybe it will give parents an extra reason to know where their kids are at night.

 

I have feathers!!!! Anyone got some tar????

 

ditto...

 

Did YOUR parents know everything you did and everywhere you went? I highly doubt it.

Responsibility only goes so far but I guess you want to make parents responsible for everything bad (what about good?) a child may do. "They" will always be your child so when does that responsibilty end?

And what if the miscreant has "sweet lilttle brothers and/or sisters" who are completely oblivious to what big brother may be doing. Guess you want them suffer the "sins of the parents AND the brother" if they are too young to go to the pool on their own.

Puhleese!

 

T8erman
Are you off, I have no problem punishing the entire occupants of the address where that teen lives. It will get their attention along with others and sends a message that as a community we will not put up with this behavior. "Sins of the Father" how about "reap what you sow".

 

Actually yes they did, and they kept a tight reign on what me and my 3 siblings did, although towards the end, my youngest sister did get away with much more than I could ever do.

 

I guess we should also start firing employees that are parents of non honor-roll students. Clearly the parents work ethic is a direct reflection of their children's grades in school :rolleyes2:

 

A parent is responsible for their MINOR, which is what someone < 18 is, which means, that any monetary penalty will more than likely be paid by the parent. Any other punishment should be only inflicted on the kid responsible (and hopefully their parents will also continue to monitor their wear-abouts until they leave for college.

 

Bottom line is that parents have to be held accountable when their kids are out presumably roaming the neighborhood at 11pm. As I've told my teenage son a zillion times, NOTHING good happens late at night. If my son did this, he would spend the entire summer working for the HOA to pay back the debt. Lesson learned.

Congrats on catching one of those responsible!

 

Silence Dogood99 and otherse--

Glad to see that your Neighborhood Watch is working. Yes, I agree with Silence, parents should know where their kids are and what they are doing. My parents did; and I appreciate the limitations that my siblings and I had when growing up.

We tried to circumvent their rules; but learned it was not worth it in the long run. We hope that this is a "wake-up" call for parents who may not realize what their kids are up to.

Have a good night--

Foodie

 

exactly... let the parents deal with punishing the kids. Legal action with minors rarely does a thing and typicaly just leads the kids down a worse path. In a neighborhood like this we're not growing criminals (thats not the issue), but put any 16-18 year old in the juvie system and you'll turn them into one. Fine the parents... but kicking the entire family from the pool seems absurd to me.

 

We had discussed all of the options we could think of as to how to best get the point across to these kids that what they were doing was a crime. We discussed if the entire family should be banned from the pool, and while we agree that would get the point across, you can't have an innocent sibling pay for the actions of their older trouble making sibling., that's simply not fair. What we decided to do was to take away the pool pass of the child who was involved, have the parents come down to the NC and pick up the pool pass with a discussion about the trouble their child had done, and possible sign a form acknowledging that this had occured. If this occurs again with that same child, then the option is there to ban the entire family. This does not mean that the sheriffs office does not get involved. We will prosecute, we will call the police and we will devise a payment plan of some sort to make up for the damage or destruction that was done, either by working it off or paying it back.

 

Obviously, if kids are out roaming at 11P or later then do you really believe the parents are doing their job. They may think their kids are behaving when they're not. Who knows, maybe the parents are sound asleep (who doesn't have to get up at dawn to go to work?), and they think the kids are downstairs watching TV. So, let this be a wake up call. (no pun intended).

 

Tell me I'm not the only teen who snuck out of the house at night. It happens to the good parents too. Teenagers brains do not work like adults. it is a scientific fact that their reasoning is poorly developed.

 

That non-honorroll student didn't come into the parent's workplace and [edited by monderator] on the bosses desk. Your comparison isn't valid...

 

Considering the vandalism being done caused the pools to be closed, I wonder how much the kid enjoys going to the pool in the first place?

 

Some of the worst kids from my high school who were in trouble often turned out to be very very well adjusted adults. And a few that were angels in school turned out not so well.

The point is you just never know what is going to happen.

Not going to say what group I fell into but it wasn't the angel group. Back then the police were a little more tolerant and so were the schools and society. Put it this way the police took me home to my parents once where today they would haul you off to jail, and this happen several times. Those events always left me with respect for the police as kind human beings and still is with me today.. I don't think the police have that effect on the kids today. Sometimes zero tollerance can backfire.

I remember having dinner with my lawyer pal and a couple of French kids who were twenty something My lawyer buddy was helping them to get their helicopter license over here. Their observation about kids here was first they turn 21 and then go get drunk and then kill themselves. They said in France they grow up with alcohol and there is no drinking age so alcohol was no big deal. Having sex with a stranger you just met perhaps at a club was no big deal many a time. And the police are always thought of as someone like their friends and they can go for help or just chat on the street. They felt many Americans especially the young ones think of the police as the enemy.

Interesting comments on their observations of us, especially the younger ones.

Lee j

Lee j