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New Ashburn Elementary School Boundaries

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by vacliff, Aug 24, 2012.

  1. nadir

    nadir New Member

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    Where does the staff get their projections? They seem incredibly unrealistic. For example, all 3 of the new plans propose splitting DN 44.2 into two sub-DNs, DN 44.2 and DN 44.2a. DN 44.2a would include the new Van Metre townhomes called Broadlands Station.

    Van Metre plans to build 160 townhomes in this space, and the LCPS staff projects a grand total of 9 (!) elementary school students from this DN. Really? 160 townhomes producing 9 elementary school students?

    2 of the 3 "new proposed plans" have this DN going to Mill Run. The Base Plan has it going to Discovery. If this DN does go to Mill Run, a more realistic number of elementary school students from this DN will put the school back in its significantly overcrowded situation.
     
  2. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Staff had incorrectly thought there were only 73 townhouses there. I corrected that error.
     
  3. Traci

    Traci New Member

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    And the change in # found is now being taken into consideration in current plans to ensure balanced numbers in our B'lands schools.
     
  4. stevensrmiller

    stevensrmiller Stevens Miller

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    Erika Cotti deleted this message from the "Keep Broadlands Together" Facebook page, so I am reposting it here. I would have preferred to limit readership to the "Keep Broadlands Together" membership, but I won't be able to do that now.


    A couple of BHOA board members have informed me that they received an e-mail yesterday from Erika Cotti that included this paragraph:

    "You may not be aware of what's been going on behind the scenes, but Stevens & Cliff have been 'chirping' in Kevin Kuester's & Chairman Hornberger's ear to split DN32 and DN32.3 (which are all currently assigned to Mill Run) and have more than half of them go to Hill Side. Hence Kuester's SB Plan # 3 - attached."

    Cliff can speak for himself, but, to the extent the above statement refers to me, it is absolutely false. If anyone else has heard or otherwise received a message like this about me, please contact me directly.
     
  5. lilpea

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    If you didn't chirp in Kevin Kuester's ear, I apologize.

    However, Stevens are you also going to deny that you told numerous people that and I qoute: "I am not going to work on the School Boundry if Erika Cotti is involved" and paraphrasing: "I will urge the BHOA to withdraw support if Erika Cotti is working on the School Boundary".

    You act like you have been involved in the process, but you only inserted yourself to get your name out there. And frankly your involvement is questionable a best, especially since you and your wife filed a LAWSUIT against the County, are running a PAC to take down a current Board of Supervisor member and last week you personally called out the School Board Chairman.

    There have been meetings since September. And you in fact hi-jacked last Sunday's meeting (which was the first and only meeting you have attended or participated in - even though you misrepresented yourself that you had initiated the communications with Village of Waxpool. You weren't at the meeting Brian Beheam and Eric B were there after I coordinated it), which I coordinated and presented yourself as an authority, telling homeowners "kids are resilant, it's not a big deal if they get move". I had to field several calls from resident who were upset with your flippant comment(s).

    I should have never donated to any of your past two campaigns, the nearly $6K in cash and in-kind donations were the worst return on my investment. You've done so much damage in your own party that the LCDC kicked you and your wife out.
     
  6. MadCat07

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    I have not attended the meetings but have been following here and watching some of the school board meetings on tv (providing my feedback directly to the board via e-mail). I was under the impression that we (Broadlands) were presenting a united front (i.e. sole focus is to keep Broadlands kids at their present schools, accepting the reality that VoW is going to be incorporated into Mill Run) - is this not accurate ? I believe that this is what Eric communicated last night (on behalf of BHOA, I believe).
     
  7. lilpea

    lilpea Member

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    This is the plan, has always been the plan, and will continue to be the plan. Some people, however, seem to have their own agendas for some reason.
     
  8. stevensrmiller

    stevensrmiller Stevens Miller

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    Erika, we were friends once. When you stop making things up about me and others, maybe we can be friends again.
     
  9. Tech91

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    Let's take this personal spat offline.
     
  10. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    As far as my support, I refer folks to my very public comments I gave at the input session and posted previously on this forum.
     
  11. wahoogeek

    wahoogeek New Member

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    Just curious if the board explains the rationale behind the creation of plans 1 - 7 during the public meetings. While not all of these alternate plans effect local schools, they do create rather jerrymandered districts for other schools, making me wonder "what were they thinking???".
     
  12. Villager

    Villager Ashburn Village Resident

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    The Base Plan was presented by LCPS Admin staff - their stab at what they think makes sense based on the data they have.

    Plans 1 and 2 were presented by Mr. Hornberger. He explains his rationale for his plans (and answers questions about them) on his Vote Eric Hornberger Facebook page. He said that for Plan 2 he was trying to adjust everyone in the Northern Ashburn area for what would hopefully be long term stability since most of that area is already built out and doesn't have a lot of new home construction in the foreseeable future.

    Plan 3 was presented by Mr. Kuesters.

    I think Plan 4 was presented by Ms. Turgeon as a re-working of some of the items in Plan 2. I believe she took the Plan 2 and tweaked it based on her own ideas and the comments from the public.

    Plan 5 was presented by Mr. Reed and was brought to him by families from Belmont Station ES. He liked it and backed it.

    I think Plan 6 was a tweaking of Plan 4 by Mr. Hornberger and Ms. Turgeon working together.

    The ins and outs of all the plans have not been discussed at length during the meetings so far. Board members have hit the highlights of some plans but haven't gone into it in depth DN by DN. If you watch the video of the meetings you can see how they were introduced and described. Video of all meetings is available on demand online on the LCPS Webcast website.

    It's my understanding that the board hopes to narrow down the plans to around 3 at the November 27th meeting and then really dig into hashing out a final one before the public hearing on December 3rd. I don't know that for sure, though. But that's the word on the street in my 'hood.

    Full information about the process and a spreadsheet of the data the school board members are using to make their plans are available on the LCPS Planning & Legislative Services website.

     
  13. wahoogeek

    wahoogeek New Member

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    Thanks Villager!
     
  14. Traci

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    There will be a meeting for Broadlands residents interested in elementary school attendance zones TONIGHT Sunday, November 25, at 8pm in the Community Center located at 43008 Waxpool Drive. (Note that there will NOT be a meeting at the Nature Center tonight).

    Kevin Kuesters will first present an update on his new plan, leaving shortly thereafter so Broadlands parents can talk openly among themselves. The next public input session is this Tuesday, November 27th.

    Please join us as a show of support during Kevin's presentation tonight, as well as in the audience on Tuesday evening at the School Board @ 6:30 pm (you needn't speak). We want both Kevin & the SB to know their efforts are appreciated and that we as a community are still strongly involved in this process!
     
  15. Traci

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    FYI

    Tuesday, November 27, 2012 School Board Review of Attendance Zones Recommendations
    Monday, December 3, 2012 School Board Attendance Zones Public Hearing
    Tuesday, December 11, 2012 School Board Adoption of Elementary School Attendance Zones
     
  16. joy

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    Plans 7 and 8 have now been posted to the LCPS site They are the only two at this point that will continue forward (1-6 were discussion only).

    Plan 7 is a joint submission from Ashburn rep Eric Hornberger and Broad Run rep Kevin Kuesters. The changes from the current boundaries for Mill Run are it moves Carisbrooke and the townhome/condos across from them to the new Discovery Elementary. Also, Villages of Waxpool is added into Mill Run. Last, the Broadlands apartments in Demott are moved from Mill Run to Hillside. Otherwise, Hillside's boundaries stay the same.

    Plan 8 was submitted by Blue Ridge (which includes Brambleton) rep Jill Turgeon. It puts more kids at both Hillside and Mill Run than Plan 7. DN50, the area across Belmont Ridge from Broadlands Blvd, is added to Hillside. Also, it adds in the upcoming Broadlands Station homes being built across the Greenway on Waxpool into Mill Run and keeps the Broadlands apartments in Mill Run. Otherwise, it's the same as Plan 7.

    I support Plan 7 as it keeps capacity at both schools lower. This is a plus on its own for our kids and their teachers and administrations. However, it also means it's more likely that we'll not have to move again when the next school boundary changes come in 2-3 years.

    Come out to support Broadlands at the School Board meeting tomorrow night (11/27) at 7pm. (The start time is delayed to allow members to attend the visitation for Sanders Corner principal Kathleen Hwang, who sadly was hit by a car and killed last week.)
     
  17. Traci

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    Great summary, thanks Joy! I too support Plan 7 for exactly these reasons.

    Broadlands Residents will be dressed in black, and sitting together so the SB members can easily identify us vs the other Districts.

    Should you choose to speak, you can keep you message simple, one or two lines introducing yourself, where you live, and that you support Plan 7. It's that easy.

    You may either call ahead or reserve a spot to speak upon your arrival. Because the meeting is slightly delayed tomorrow, speaker times may be adjusted. Please call the LCPS @ 571-252-1050 before 4, or inquire during what time you may sign up to speak during the evening.

    Our community really pulled together to make this happen, and many people put in an awful lot of time to bring it to fruition. It would be wonderful if you'd join us in the final stretch, to ensure the plan is adopted in full. Thanks to everyone who helped along the way!!
     
  18. Traci

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  19. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    We're in the home stretch, folks.
    There are now only two plans being considered and both keep all Broadlands HOA residents in their current schools.
    I fully support Plan 7, but have concerns about Plan 8.

    Attention SouthernWalk residents:
    If Plan 8 is adopted, there is a strong possibility that Mill Run will be considered for redistricting when the next elementary school is built in the area in 2-3 years. At a meeting with Broadlands residents last Sunday, Kevin Kuesters mentioned that the area being considered for a new school is south and east of Broadlands. If a school is built there, then parts of SouthernWalk would be at risk for being moved out of Mill Run.

    Plan 7 balances out both Mill Run and Hillside. There is a strong likelihood that if this plan is adopted, both schools will be left alone next time around.

    I urge all Broadlands residents to come to the final Public Input session next Monday and support Plan 7.
     
  20. loudgrowler

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    Curious as to where do all of these smaller neighborhoods currently attend school? Is it Legacy Elementary and Stone Hill Middle School for Alexander's Chase, Windermere, Village of Waxpool, and the newly being built Reservoir Ridge? Are they all wanting to move to Mill Run and Eagle Ridge? That seems like too many people to add into Mill Run and Eagle Ridge and seems like it would make sense to keep all of these smaller neighborhoods that keep popping up along Belmont Ridge attending together with their neighbors - at Legacy - if there is more room there?
     

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