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Pipestems

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by Dixie, Sep 25, 2005.

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  1. Dixie

    Dixie New Member

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    WOW, I thought Pipestems were the responsibility of all the residence who live on them. that's a good question. Neil Z. or Cliff Any answers??
     
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    Wow. Glad our pipestem seems to be really cordial (so far). If you look at your plat map, the pipestem is probably divided in stripes so that each house has property on the street (even if it's only a few feet). So technically, you would probably be responsible for that section that belongs to you. But I would hope that you could work something out that made sense to everyone.

    If you don't mind me asking, what is the disagreement about?

    Pam D.
     
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    Try this site,

    http://gisinter1.loudoun.gov/weblogis/agree.htm

    After clicking Yes, click on the Search tab, then by Property Address. Just put your address number and your street name, without the "Court" or "Place" or "Street" at the end. So, you would just type in, "12333 Elmwood". Then, click on the "Map It" link. There are multiple layers you can display as well. Good luck!
     
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    Ugh - that sounds awful!! I seriously don't understand why people like that move into neighborhoods like ours, where houses are close together, and you have neighbors!!

    In the two houses I grew up in, both were on pipestems. All of the neighbors did their share of helping shovel the snow, pave, etc. of the driveway.

    I wish you luck!
     
  7. Dixie

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    It should be a joint effort. A pipestem is, in effect, a common driveway. This area is covered in the Declaration for Broadlands on page 62. This new neighbor should have gotten a copy when he bought the house, as it is a requirement that the seller purchase a copy to give to the buyer. The relevant area is Section 16.2:


    Section 16.2 UPKEEP. The Owners of Lots served or benefitted by a common driveway SHALL (my emphasis) mainatain such driveway in a safe and orderly condition and shall be responsible for all Upkeep necessitated as a result of ordinary wear and tear or as a result of damage or destruction caused by fire or other casualty, other than any damage or destruction caused by the act of an adjointing Owner. All costs associated with the Upkeep of any common driveway shall be born equally by ALL (my emphasis) Owners served or benefitted by such driveway.


    Definitions: Upkeep means care, inspection, maintenance, operation, repair, repainting, remodeling, restoration, improvement, renovation, alteration, replacement and reconstruction.

    Shall is defined as a mandatory requirement.


    IMHO - snow removal falls under the operation definition of Upkeep and is borne by all parties using the pipestem.

    If the guy doesn't want to contribute, just clear one side of the drive to your garage.

    However, he is perfectly within his rights to tell you to stay out of his driveway, as it is not part of the pipestem and is private property.

    As far as parking, there is nothing in the declaration about parking on pipestems, so I guess in this case, common sense would rule. As long as you park in front of your garage, and are not blocking the pipestem, you should be OK.

    Finally, if the basketball hoop is located in the location as described in the Residential Design Guidelines, that is, located in the middle of your driveway between your garage doors, you shouldn't have a problem with your neighbor as you're playing on your property.

    Hope this helps



    Neil Z.
    Resident since 1999
     
  9. Dixie

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    I don't believe so ... however, talk to Wes and see what he may be able to tell you.



    Neil Z.
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    What'd it say...this is interesting.
     
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    Now they violate federal postal laws by placing non-mail items in a postbox !!

    [}:)]

    Neil Z.
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    Wow, this poor lady is really unhappy.
    well, just keep trying to be friendly when you speak with her no matter how grumpy she gets. Don't get involved with the ugliness.
    It is obvious she is having a problem here with property lines and your dog and shoveling and cars turning around.
    Keep your cool.
    We used to live on a pipestem in Maryland and we never had problems like this.
    You are not a bad neighbor.. she is just not happy.
     
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    L0stS0ul hmmmm

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    I feel horrible for you Dixie. I could not imagine living next to such a person. I wish you the best of luck in resolving this issue and hopefully it does not come to moving. Some people just have way to much time on their hands. There should be a neighborly test for potential pipestem homeowners and if they don't pass they don't get the privacy privilege :)
     
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    This is so appalling!!! We live on a pipestem and your posts have made me count our blessings. What we have done in regards to snow removal, is that all of us living on our pipestem pitched in (2 years ago) for the purchase of a snow blower. The past several winters we have all taken turns clearing out our driveways and portions of the pipestem in front of our respective homes. We take turns providing gas and maintaining the snow blower. One of the original owners moved and the new family was told that the "snowblower agreement" conveyed with the home. We have found it to be a very satisfactory arrangement. I know this probably does not help you but I wanted to post it so you knew that not all pipestems in Broadlands are the same!
     
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    I would personally do everything in my power to piss them off even more, without trespassing of course. In a case like this, I would be just plain evil. [}:)]

    I wish you the best of luck with your troublesome neighbor!
     
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    If you have pointed out to them the requirements in the covenants, then the next part is arbitration, as setout in the covenants.

    In addition, what I would do is spend the money to have a good survey done, and stake out your property. Insure that metal pipes are installed at all corners so that you can verify your property lines.



    Neil Z.
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