Pools closed again - June 9 - Vandalism Again!

Re: Pools closed again - June 9 - Vandalism AGIAN!!

If anyone plans to pull an all nighter to try to spot the vandals, I don't think announcing it here is the best idea... just a suggestion.

Also, with the frequency that they are striking, I wonder if maybe they are revelling in the attention that they are getting on these boards. I would presume that they lurk on here before I would assume that they don't...

 

Re: Pools closed again - June 9 - Vandalism AGIAN!!

Only if we can have paint ball guns

 

Re: Pools closed again - June 9 - Vandalism AGIAN!!

I didn't think about this until today, but on June 1st at 4am there was a police officer sitting in the Summerbrooke pool parking lot. Maybe nothing, perhaps they sit there every so often, but now I wonder if a call was made to complain about someone hanging around the pool.

I'll give $10 towards the reward... I think that if we each put in $5-$10 the reward money would add up... I'm sure someone will talk when they're offered a few hundred dollars.

 

Re: Pools closed again - June 9 - Vandalism AGIAN!!

Since these idiots are probably living in this community, their community service should come back to the Broadlands community. And yes, make them pay all the costs - damages and cost to clean up.

 

Kids in the neighborhood? Hmmm....most of them WANT to go to the pool and they don't want it to be closed either. My teens were pretty upset when they heard what happened because they love to hang at the pool with their friends.

I heard there were some disgruntled people who were not allowed in because they didn't have proper passes. Could this be some sort of retribution for that?

 

No. It's kids.
How many adults do you know, disgruntled or not, will sh*t in a neighborhood pool? And yes, some was of the human type.

I do know the names of the ones who tore down the light in the Waxpool underpass and (gasp!) they are Broadlands teenagers. Hard to imagine!
hmmm........

 

Well Cliff, since I don't normally analyze sh*t, I'll have to take your word for it.

 

I'm starting to get grossed out by this. Asides from letting the filters run for one full cycle, are they also properly shocking the pools? At what point can this start to be a health concern to little ones especially?

 

Unfortunately, somebody had to. Thankfully, it wasn't me, either!

 

Question: When there is solid waste, that is, not vomit or diarrhea, is it really necessary to run through a full filtration cycle? We have a friend who runs county pools and he says that the county health code was changed and that our pools should not be shut down for 8 hours with a solid waste contamination. The waste needs to be physically removed and one hour needs to pass before anyone enters the water. Further, I'd like to suggest that in the future when the pool filtration systems need replacing, we buy better/faster systems. The recreation pool at Claude Moore turns over in an HOUR and the olympic/athletic one turns over in FIVE hours. Do all of ours really take 8 hours?

 

This is why I choose not to use the pools here, even though I pay for them

 

Um, I'll take the safe and clean route with extra time over what the county health code says anytime. One hour? Ick.

 

Here are guidelines from the CDC regarding closure times for fecal incidents:

http://www.cdc.gov/healthyswimming/fecalacc.htm

For solid or "formed" stools, it is no where near 8 hours.

Not sure what the State/County Regs are though.

 

Ok, here is the County Ordinace:

838.43 WATER CONTAMINATION.

The injection of body wastes, including sputum, into a pool is prohibited. Overflow gutters or skimmers shall be used for expectoration. A pool contaminated by human or animal feces shall be closed immediately and the County Health Department advised. In such a case, the following actions shall be taken by the pool management, unless waived by the Health Department:

(a) Close the pool until the total volume of water can be passed through the filtering system, i.e. for the turnover time;
(b) Capture fecal material in a container for disposal, if possible;
(c) Raise the free chlorine residual to 2.0 p.p.m.;
(d) Vacuum the bottom of the pool for waste;
(e) Overflow the pool; and
(f) Backwash the filter after one hour.
(Ord. 79 01. Passed 12 3 79.)

Looks like (a) is the reason the long closure times. Just curious why all the pools "take 8 hours" as the voulme is certainly different for each of the 3 pools. Is it that the pumps are set up to cycle the pools volume for that time amount?

 

I'm with you there...I'll take 16 hours! And, since when does it matter if the waste is solid or liquid. Frankly, I think there should be a pool specifically for adults with toddlers - diapers or not, keep the pools separate. And that includes adults with diapers too

 

Bad info on pool closure - Sun. June 10th

Not to change the subject here, but another complaint about a pool being closed for a questionable reason. My wife and I went to the community center pool at 3:00 this afternoon (Sunday) to catch a few hours of sun and swimming. At about 3:45, the lifeguard blew her whistle and told everyone to get out of the pool. We all thought that this was the normal 15 min break that they have. Then, the lifeguards began walking around the pool deck telling us that someone at one of the other community pools had heard thunder and we all needed to clear the area for 45 minutes to an hour. The problem was - the sun was shining and there was just clouds in the sky - nothing threatening. When questioned by a number of parents and kids at the pool, the young lifeguard just gave an answer that her supervisor had ordered all 3 pools closed for the next 45 min - hour ; something about 'County policies'. Everyone left the area feeling very annoyed and wondering why we were being kicked out if the weather was fine - we figured that safety was being put as a priority and of course that is most important.

As we drove away from the community center pool, my wife and I decided to swing by the large pool across from the hoa office to see how they were handling the decision to close even though the sun was shining. When we drove up, it was business as usual at the large pool. I approached one of the lifeguards when we got there and she said that they received no direction from their supervisor and that the people over at the community center pool didn't receive any directive to close the pool.

What gives??

 

Re: Bad info on pool closure - Sun. June 10th

 

Yeah, let a lifeguard or teen tell my young son once he cannot use the slide... yeah, just once!

 

does the HOA really let these teen lifeguards that just want to get off work make the call to close due to "weather" or alleged thunder, or shouldn't they need to check in with a responsible manager of authority first before just closing?

all they do is sit there and are not trying to be of assistance. we asked saturday once the pool finally opened if they would turn on the fountains for the kids, and she said, one was broken, needed a simple fuse replaced, and the other she'd turn on in a minute. well we left 1.5 hours later and it still wasn't turned on. could these kids possibly be any more lazy? do they take jobs seriously at all? do they realize we pay money all year long into fees to have these pools open to entertain our kids? That money should pay for some sort of security to ensure the pools do not get vandalized and do indeed stay open. i hope these pools aren't just a useless benefit to our HOA fees that never end up being open. we don't have time to go often, but when we get suited up and cream up a 2 year old who is totally phyched to go to the pool and 2 out of 3 times we try to go it's closed due to some ridiculous reason, it's disappointing to say the least.