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Question re: Cedar Tree rescue on 10/20

Discussion in 'Nature/Habitat/Garden Corner' started by technosapien, Oct 13, 2007.

  1. technosapien

    technosapien New Member

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    Hi,
    I won't be in town next weekend when it's time to rescue the cedar trees, but wanted to get two. Will there be any other opportunity to rescue trees, or is this it? Will anyone be rescuing extra trees for people who can't make it to the event?

    What happens to the trees that aren't rescued?

    Thank you,
    - A
     
  2. KTdid

    KTdid Well-Known Member

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    They'll die:huh:
     
  3. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Go dig some up today.
     
  4. jeffwolinski

    jeffwolinski New Member

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    If current soil moisture conditions continue, I wouldn't expect any of these transplants to survive. If at all possible, individual trees to be saved should be well watered (don't ask me where you'll get the water!) during the upcoming week to hydrate them before their move. Depending on the soil type, the water will also make digging easier and make for a more cohesive root ball. Transplanting in dry powdery soil is often an absolute disaster. Remember that most plants don't get their water and nutrients from the large roots visible to the eye, but from fine root hairs that grow off of those larger roots. This is why it is so important to have a cohesive root ball with as little root-soil movement as possible. Such shearing actions will destroy the root hairs and greatly compromise the chance of success, especially if the transplanted tree is already stressed from drought. Proceed with caution!
     
  5. technosapien

    technosapien New Member

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    Thought about it but didn't want to get in trouble with whomever owns the trees/land now. I know they're letting us take them later, but wary of being on the property when they didn't say it was OK.
     
  6. technosapien

    technosapien New Member

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    Sounds like they're doomed anyway if nobody tries...

    Why doesn't Van Metre transplant the trees to Croson Lane so that the residents over there get the evergreen trees they want to block the roadway?

    Or am I opening a whole new can of worms with that idea....
     
  7. jeffwolinski

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    I agree that it's worth a shot, but some extra preparatory work would greatly improve the chances for success. Hand digging red cedars can be difficult. If Van Metre really wanted to make an effort, they would hire out a small tree spade for the day and plant these for people.

    My advice for those wanting some for their own, would be to pick relatively small ones that look vigorous.
     
  8. luftinarr

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    Yes! Plant them on Croson!!!! Come on Van Metre!!!! Pony up and help us out over here!!!
     
  9. technosapien

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    Looks like someone listened to you. They rescheduled the rescue until Nov 17. Hope we get some rain by then!
     
  10. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    Yea, I put up the rescheduling notice on the front page of the website and then got pulled away and totally forgot to post the new date here... My apologies...

    The staff at the Nature Center informed me that the date has been moved to November 17 at 9:00AM.
     
  11. jeffwolinski

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    Later will be better, as the plants will be closer to dormancy then. Hopefully there will also be some rain by then. As I suggested before, if you have a couple you have your eyes on, take them a little water now to keep them in top condition.

    Here's a helpful link discussing proper technique:

    http://www.ag.ndsu.edu/pubs/plantsci/trees/f1147w.htm
     
  12. luftinarr

    luftinarr Member

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    Forgive me, but where are these trees that are up for transplanting? I've been wanting to plant some trees in my backyard. Do we have to fill out a modification form for landscaping if we plant a couple trees in the backyard?
     
  13. technosapien

    technosapien New Member

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    They are across the street from McDonalds, Taco Bell, Glory Days, Walgreens, etc. off Wynridge Ave (I think the shopping center is called Southern Walk Plaza).

    I've been told we do not need HOA approval to plant trees in our own backyards, but to please be considerate of neighbors and of the potential future growth of the trees. Since cedars are evergreen there shouldn't be much worry about neighbors having to rake leaves from them.... :)

    Though a friend of mine told me to get 100 cedars and plant them in my yard to sell them in the spring. I'm pretty sure this would be against some rule somewhere....
     
  14. jeffwolinski

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    Red cedar (Juniperus virginianus) can get pretty darn big, so definitely be careful with siting. Ultimate height can be up to 80 feet, but this will take quite some time to achieve. It is an evergreen, but old needles (very small and spiky) do drop regularly, so be aware. A substantial litter layer of these small needles will develop under older cedars. It does make a good weed barrier mulch, but can be a little uncomfortable.
     
  15. T8erman

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    No, an application is not necessary for landscapping unless it is part of a larger project.
     
  16. southernwalkres

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    Are there rules for the rescue, or will it be a free-for-all? Do we show up at 9:00 shovels in hand and lay claim to trees? How does this work? I think the rain in the past two weeks should have helped the probability that they will survive... Thanks.
     
  17. T8erman

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    Free-for-all, that is pretty much how it works. :D
     
  18. southernwalkres

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    Excellent. I'll bring my tree spade.
     

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