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Sexual Predator over in Townhouses

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by Thundercleese, Feb 8, 2009.

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  1. Thundercleese

    Thundercleese 1001 11010001 0100

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    Just got another Loudoun alert that we have another person to closely watch around our chidlren who has moved into our area. Sexual battery in OH.

    Please remain vigilant.

    Name: First Name: AARON Last Name: REDIGER Middle Name: DAVID
    Address: 21945 HALBURTON TERRANCE
    Address: ASHBURN, VA. 20148
    http://sex-offender.vsp.virginia.gov/sor/offenderDetails.html?regId=25579
     
  2. Ozgood

    Ozgood Not a space alien

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    (2) The offender knows that the other person’s ability to appraise the nature of or control the other person’s own conduct is substantially impaired.

    Sounds like this guy got drunk with his girlfriend and she got pissed.

    I don't think this guy will be a risk around kids. If he was messing with kids he would have been charged under 2907.7 or 2907.04.
     
  3. Villager

    Villager Ashburn Village Resident

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    According to Ohio state code:

    2907.03 Sexual battery.

    (A) No person shall engage in sexual conduct with another, not the spouse of the offender, when any of the following apply:
    (1) The offender knowingly coerces the other person to submit by any means that would prevent resistance by a person of ordinary resolution.
    (2) The offender knows that the other person’s ability to appraise the nature of or control the other person’s own conduct is substantially impaired.
    (3) The offender knows that the other person submits because the other person is unaware that the act is being committed.
    (4) The offender knows that the other person submits because the other person mistakenly identifies the offender as the other person’s spouse.
    (5) The offender is the other person’s natural or adoptive parent, or a stepparent, or guardian, custodian, or person in loco parentis of the other person.
    (6) The other person is in custody of law or a patient in a hospital or other institution, and the offender has supervisory or disciplinary authority over the other person.
    (7) The offender is a teacher, administrator, coach, or other person in authority employed by or serving in a school for which the state board of education prescribes minimum standards pursuant to division (D) of section 3301.07 of the Revised Code, the other person is enrolled in or attends that school, and the offender is not enrolled in and does not attend that school.
    (8) The other person is a minor, the offender is a teacher, administrator, coach, or other person in authority employed by or serving in an institution of higher education, and the other person is enrolled in or attends that institution.
    (9) The other person is a minor, and the offender is the other person’s athletic or other type of coach, is the other person’s instructor, is the leader of a scouting troop of which the other person is a member, or is a person with temporary or occasional disciplinary control over the other person.
    (10) The offender is a mental health professional, the other person is a mental health client or patient of the offender, and the offender induces the other person to submit by falsely representing to the other person that the sexual conduct is necessary for mental health treatment purposes.
    (11) The other person is confined in a detention facility, and the offender is an employee of that detention facility.
    (12) The other person is a minor, the offender is a cleric, and the other person is a member of, or attends, the church or congregation served by the cleric.
    (B) Whoever violates this section is guilty of sexual battery. Except as otherwise provided in this division, sexual battery is a felony of the third degree. If the other person is less than thirteen years of age, sexual battery is a felony of the second degree, and the court shall impose upon the offender a mandatory prison term equal to one of the prison terms prescribed in section 2929.14 of the Revised Code for a felony of the second degree.
    (C) As used in this section:
    (1) “Cleric” has the same meaning as in section 2317.02 of the Revised Code.
    (2) “Detention facility” has the same meaning as in section 2921.01 of the Revised Code.
    (3) “Institution of higher education” means a state institution of higher education defined in section 3345.011 of the Revised Code, a private nonprofit college or university located in this state that possesses a certificate of authorization issued by the Ohio board of regents pursuant to Chapter 1713. of the Revised Code, or a school certified under Chapter 3332. of the Revised Code.
    Effective Date: 03-31-2003; 08-03-2006
     
  4. technosapien

    technosapien New Member

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    And this guy was convicted under 2907.03(A)(2) which doesn't seem to warrant the label "Predator".
     
  5. CoachCal

    CoachCal New Member

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    for what it's worth...

    The house that he is registered at is occupied by a Loudoun County Police Officer. Just a guess, but maybe they are family? Might help ease your mind about what, if any trouble he might be for the community.
     
  6. Ozgood

    Ozgood Not a space alien

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    A very good and important point
     
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    Fritz New Member

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    YOU ARE KIDDING ME!

    How uninformed and insensitive are you. Everybody watch out for this guy! Keep your eyes on Technosapein and Ozgood
     
  9. marianne

    marianne Puppy Mommy

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    What the hell? Do you know that you can end up on the sexual predator list for being a 20 year old having consensual sex with a 17 year old? There are laws in VA that, if enforced, could make you end up on that list and these laws address things that I can guarantee you 90% of the people on this list do regularly. The sexual predator list is being implemented totally wrong, and people fly off the handle for no good reason.

    If you find someone in your neighborhood that is on the list find out what he was convicted for then do what was done in this case, find out what he was convicted of, and act accordingly. I don't see this guy as a danger to children.

    Marianne
    (better keep an eye on me too)
     
  10. Fritz

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    Did we read the same article? An authority figure, youth minister, 28 years old and takes advantage of juveniles (17 in this case) and you think this person isn't a sexual predator?

    I do agree that the laws aren't perfect and there are terrible examples of injustices. But this certainly does not appear to be one of them.

    Also, if you don't know the facts of the case don't spout off your opinion on how you think they should be treated or labled. You're condoning this type of behavior as ok and it is certainly far from it.
     
  11. serendipity

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    While this law can be unfairly assigned to some...there is an excellent reason for its employment. To protect our children. I'm not saying people need to respond with mass hysteria. I also don't think it's a good idea to dilute the importance of it's use either. Finding out the actual crime is a good point-before passing judgement too harshly as well as before dismissing the behavior out of hand! After reading that this particular individual was a 28 yr.old youth minister working with teens and was married with a wife who was 6 months pregnant at the time, who had sexual relations with not one but two teens, I certainly don't dismiss him. I have teens and certainly wouldn't want this guy working with ANY group that they were associated with. Teens are still children and we still need to stay informed and advise them about such potential harm. Just because a law can be over-used, doesn't mean we should forget the reason that it came about in the first place. If you had a teen who was in such a situation, you might find comments seeking to defend or deflect responsibility for such behavior highly insensitive and uninformed indeed. Certainly, if I was the victim of such abuse of authority as a teen, I would be very insulted by such comments.
     
  12. CoachCal

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    Another article (more recent and with a few more details):

    http://exchristian.net/2/2007/02/youth-pastor-receives-prison-sentence.html

     
  13. Ozgood

    Ozgood Not a space alien

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    CoachCal,

    Was it an oversight or just selective quoting that caused you to "miss" this sentence in the story?

    Jus wonderin. Seems like a pretty important sentence to me.
     
  14. Fritz

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    Wow, why are you defending this guy so much? "Jus wonderin."

    It doesn't say no risk and also you'll note it says "at this time". Would you be comfortable having this person coaching, teaching or ministering without being aware of his background?
     
  15. Ozgood

    Ozgood Not a space alien

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    The guy won't be able to coach, teach or minister as part of his parole so it is not going to be a factor.

    I am not defending this guy. He is clearly stupid and a slimeball. I am glad he went to jail. But he hardly deserves for the residents to clutch their children to their protective bosums if the guy is seen picking up food at the safeway.

    The original poster used the term "Sexual Predator" which has both a legal (depending on the state) and an emotional meaning.

    The legal meaning does not seem to apply (IAW Ohio law), and it is my opinion that the emotional meaning should not apply either to this guy.

    Remember, we do not have access to the court records, we do not have access to the medical/pych records. All we have is five news reports which seem to be copies of each other.

    I am not going to presume that I know better than the Ohio Justice system or the Ohio Pyche profession based on five news reportsI read on the Internet.

    But you know what, we are all entitled to our own opinions on this issue. We do not have to agree nor should we attempt to change another's opinion. The purpose of this forum is just a venue where people can voice, and hopfully respectfully, discuss differences of opinon.

    For after all, that is what is posted in these forums... people's opinions. :)
     
  16. CoachCal

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    Just quoting the two parts I found to be most important.

    Part 1: His sentence/charges and release conditions

    Part 2: The effect his actions had on a young woman's life.

    Was just pure coincidence that the line you mentioned happened to be between them. It was not selectively excluded. Not trying to throw the guy under a bus... but he's already done a good job of that himself now hasn't he?
     
  17. Ozgood

    Ozgood Not a space alien

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    Thanks for clearing that up :)
     
  18. serendipity

    serendipity New Member

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    Yes, we post opinions--- but don't doubt for one second that often we seek to influence or change others' opinions via our forum. Of course we do. And often an exchange of ideas/opinions leads to that. Many of the threads here are filled with people trying to offer information to change people's minds whether it be giving a restaurant another chance, the school budget debate or the hospital issue. Before the news article with much more detail was posted, it was commented on here that since the charge was having sexual relations with someone while they were "impaired" the guy shouldn't be labeled a "sexual predator". Whether a woman/girl is impaired by alcohol (which was alluded to) to the point that they can't consent or by age (too young legally to consent) you bet I would like to change the mind of anyone who thinks it's okay to have sex with a woman when she is too "impaired" and not able to give consent! Not able to give consent being the key factor.
     
  19. jjenkins

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    +1 - good points!
     
  20. merky1

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    I think that the problem with "sexual predator" lists is that the term is vaporific at best. The current system treats the "innocent" age offenses (18 y/o with 17 y/o) the same as these kind of offenders.

    This leads to violent offenders passing themselves as "harmless age issues", and communities treating the harmless ones with outrage.
     
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