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Shouldn't our HOA elected officials be impartial?

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by Brewer, Mar 2, 2008.

  1. Lee

    Lee Permanent Vacation

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    That tells me your opinions can not be objective;)
     
  2. latka

    latka Active Member

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    Oh dear, I seem to have that effect on men. :devil2:
     
  3. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Your quote: "All the HOA's hostility..." - this implies ALL does it not? And Cliff has been the only one to post in THIS thread.

    And I do not represent "the" HOA. I am on a sub-committee and have no representation in HOA BOARD matters.
     
  4. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    WOW! I am AMAZED! You at least know how to spell OBJECTIVE! ;)
     
  5. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Regardless if we agree on issues or not, any "chick" who plays softball can't be bad!

    Use to play 200-250 games a year in my youth in Fairfax Co. - division 1. LOTS of tournaments too!
     
  6. Lee

    Lee Permanent Vacation

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    I can't take credit for the spelling Dalyn told me how to spell it ;)
     
  7. Baywatch68

    Baywatch68 New Member

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    I thoguht you might have gotten that kid to help.
     
  8. blue_devil

    blue_devil New Member

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    I think this falls into what I said before about being under the HOA Board's responsibilities:
    There's a subjective line about where the HOA Board should be stepping in on issues if you base it on the effect on residents. Surely not over the Democratic Primary. How about the recently tabled VA legislation on proffers or the Ashburn Homeless Shelter? Does the HOA need to be passing endorsements/oppositions on issues outside those it oversees?
     
  9. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    But doesn't every decision the HOA makes have a potential effect on the residents?

    And who would define this "subjective line"? Or would it be a moving target based on how controversial a topic is?

    I think that most controversial topics follow the 1/3 rule, including the hospital.
    1/3 approves, 1/3 disapproves, 1/3 doesn't care.
     
  10. gryphon

    gryphon Banned User

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    What do you mean that you don't represent the HOA. The HOA is more than the Board. You make decisions on behalf of the HOA through one of its duly designated sub-committees, right? Therefore, like vacliff and flynnibus, you are part of the HOA.

    Again, I encourage all of the HOA representatives to participate here and express their opinions. You all do great things for this community, and you derserve the right to express yourselves here. I just was reacting to what I saw as a lot of hostility and defensiveness over one particular decision that was pretty devisive for this community. While I have no position on the issue of the hospital, I do think it is, at the very least, strange for members of the HOA to claim that they thought that the issue was non-controversial, non-political, etc.
     
  11. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Fine, I guess in a small way I do represent the HOA.

    But again, with your posts you seem to want to pluralize Cliff's statement and attribute it to other HOA members.
     
  12. blue_devil

    blue_devil New Member

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    Which is why I believe the line should NOT be subjective; but, based on what the HOA Board actually oversees. Why should the HOA Board choose to upset 1/3 of the residents when the decision is not required.

    The HOA Board did not need to endorse or oppose the HCA hospital, it does not oversee that land. The HOA Board contributed to the hostile nature of the hospital debate because it did take a side. Every time a newspaper printed the "unanamous HOA Board support" quote one household boiled over it and I'm sure some of the other 300 Broadlands households who opposed it in the survey did, too.

    I'm just thinking we should learn from this. Maybe the next time the HOA Board would vote my way; but, having been on the other side I wouldn't want that for my opponents.
     
  13. KTdid

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    blue, I agree 100%. The real issue is that the board Member(s) do not see this as an issue. I believe the line was crossed on this one and for self-serving reasons. This type of action by a few people - worries me:(
     
  14. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    A claim you continue to make without quantifying... how is this self-serving?
     
  15. Silence Dogood99

    Silence Dogood99 New Member

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    Since you are making an accusation that is impugning the motives of HOA Board Members, you should be willing to quantify exactly what those self-serving reasons are rather than simply creating innuendo.

    Have you been "worried" enough by these actions to (1) contact the particular HOA Board Members privately to discuss your concerns the way responsible adults do so and (2) attend HOA Meetings? Or do you prefer to just snipe and create false accusations about people volunteering their time for the community?
     
  16. KTdid

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    Since you've been following this thread and posting as well, I think your question is moot. Again defensive posturing. When the overwhelming community opinion/vote (solicited no less by the HOA) is against a plan and the HOA takes it upon themselves to issue (vote) overwhelming in favor of the decision...have I missed something significant here?

    Then I ask you to qualify the Board's action from an objective standpoint What was the purpose of this vote? Tell me.
     
  17. KTdid

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    Accusation? Creating innuendo? And would this be any different if these were paid positions?

    Seems to me, everyone of your posts impugns the motives of forum posters, "creating innuendo". I won't entertain your silliness. :rolleyes3:
     
  18. Silence Dogood99

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    Just proves my point exactly. You prefer to snipe from the sidelines. Yes, you made an accusation. You said that HOA Board Members voted for "self-serving reasons," yet you fail to quantify or provide any evidence of those self-serving reasons.

    Yes, that is called an accusation and creating innuendo. Whether they are paid or not, you owe people an explanation when you accuse them of acting dishonorably. Since they are volunteers, I believe we should take an extra step before impugning their motives.

    Nice try turning it around on me. Classic. But YOU are the one making the accusations. I guess you don't have an answer. And I guess that means you haven't taken the responsible, mature step to contact the individuals directly. So whine away.

    I respond to specific posts where people express their viewpoints. When those viewpoints espouse a philosophy different from mine, of course I point that out. But I base my comments on what people actually write, not creating accusations and innuendo based on some conspiracy theory.
     
  19. T8erman

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    And you accuse me of rhetoric. tsk tsk tsk
     
  20. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    2082 surveys sent.
    As a percentage of total Broadlands residents,
    318 (15%) supported the hospital.
    357 (17%) did not support the hospital.

    1258 (60%) not answered.

    You are right about "overwhelming" just wrong on the "specifics".

    I guess most people just don't care. I know some people on here that would probably say a non-vote is a vote FOR. ;)
     

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