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The Vulture Menace

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by hornerjo, Nov 6, 2009.

  1. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    That's fine and dandy Oya, but when you have 60-80 of them roosting in the trees in the common area by your home, and when you have about 10-15 on your roof every morning causing damage, etc, it's a totally different story.

    A representative of the USDA who came down even agreed that we had a 'very serious vulture issue' on our street. So while I commend you for your commitment to 'ecology and conservation', in this particular case I don't think you have concept of the full extent of the issues we've had on our street. We had a VERY serious issue and the USDA helped us with it; you can post about how great vultures are until the cows come home, but you aren't the one who has had to deal with all the damage, annoyances and 'vomit hairballs' littering our decks and driveways.

    You want to promote the benefits of vultures? Let's see how you feel when there are 80 roosting next to your house and a couple dozen sitting on your roof and damaging it.
     
  2. KTdid

    KTdid Well-Known Member

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    "You want to promote the benefits of vultures? Let's see how you feel when there are 80 roosting next to your house and a couple dozen sitting on your roof and damaging it."


    60-80 vultures is stretching it and a majority roosted in the trees. How did the USDA "help" you get rid of them?

    By the way, Oya's article was very informational and did not deserve your rude rebuttal.
     
  3. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    60-80 was the USDA representative's approximate numbers after spending a few late afternoons taking counts as they arrived to roost for the evening. Feel free to call the USDA and tell them that their employee is 'stretching' the numbers and provide him with the more accurate counts you seem to indicate you have. Yes, they were roosting in the trees overnight, but as soon as the sun came up, they would move to the roofs in order to 'sun' themselves before starting their day. Please re-read my post and you'll see that I was quite specific in regards to stating the number in the trees and the number on the roofs.

    While Oya's article was informational, it did not take into consideration the issues we have been dealing with for over 3+ years, and the damage they have been causing. While it is true that they serve an important purpose, in large numbers in a very small location, they can also have huge and dramatic negative effects. While my 'rebuttal' might be considered 'rude', I could also say that her posting was 'insensitive' to what the residents on our street have had to endure for the past 3+ years. We already know about all the benefits of vultures - we've been through all that dozens of times.
     
  4. Brassy

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    Remember when the Dulles town Center Mall hs the turkey vulture issue a ferw years back? There way of dealing with it was to seriously thin out all the trees that used to be there. No that this is a viable option for the Way Braodlands promotes itself. We like the greenery and after reading this entire link, well thinning trees in all the offended areas would make this place less visually appealing. Also the cost to the HOA to do so would be an issue i'm willing to guess. Not sure what to do about this nusiance. I'd put it right up there with the geese that poop all over sidwalks and grass and such.
     
  5. hornerjo

    hornerjo Senior Member

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    The thread she's responding to here - the last post was almost a full year old.

    The residents took care of the problem, they have been gone from Autumnwood Sq at zero cost to the HOA and as far as I know there are no further issues of them in the Broadlands. They clean up dead junk, nice article and all... but the correct place for that post is right here: Nature/Habitat/Garden Corner.

    This thread should be locked IMO, its a moot issue at this point unless the vultures are damaging houses somewhere else here...
     
  6. napper

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    Yes, they are gone and I'm glad for everyone. What needed to be done was done. It's not a moot point until the dead vulture is removed, though. Now that the leaves are falling, it can be seen hanging there and it's not a pleasant sight. I thought the vulture was only supposed to be hung for 2 weeks? Correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  7. hornerjo

    hornerjo Senior Member

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    I'd believe the USDA leaves it there as long it takes to ensure they don't return, what the limit is I have no idea. I know they are monitoring it and the vultures in the area, feel free to contact them for more information.
     
  8. OSimpson

    OSimpson Certified Master Naturalist

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    All I am trying to say is to deal with the wildlife issues humanly and it seems like that has been finally done.

    Thank you.
     
  9. luftinarr

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    That's how it was taken care of? I was wondering how they did it. Very cool (well, not cool for the subject vulture), but awesome that it worked. Maybe a morbid question, but was it a vulture from that entire lot of them? Like was it cherry picked and hung there? Or, was a dead vulture brought it? I find this fascinating!!!
     
  10. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    USDA came, shot one, and strung it up. Deterrents seem to work for non-humans too :)
     
  11. luftinarr

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    a-w-e-s-o-m-e!!!! sooo glad it worked!
     
  12. T8erman

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    Maybe we should hang a teenager up on the first day of summer every year. :devil2:
     
  13. napper

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    REALLY? You know this for a fact? How can you come on here and comment on something you have no idea about?? USDA DID NOT come in and shoot one. It was one that was already dead and in their freezer. You might want to get your facts straight before you post.
     
  14. napper

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    Do you really think it's a-w-e-s-o-m-e? Wow. It's not so awesome when you are out on your deck and see a dead vulture hanging there. It's quite sad, actually.
     
  15. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    That was the plan as of the day of the action - maybe they changed it at the last minute. I did 'check my facts' up until a few hours until the USDA guy was supposed to be there. I dunno, I didn't check in again.

    Maybe you can lure the vultures back to your roof since you seem to love them so much.
     
  16. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    I second the motion :)
     
  17. napper

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    I talked to the USDA guy a couple of days before this happened and was told THEN that it was a vulture they already had in their freezer. So I don't know how your facts said otherwise up until a few hours beforehand.

    And this has nothing to do with me liking the vultures or not. I've kept my mouth shut about it because I actually wanted it to work for my neighbor's sake. And it wasn't in plain view before.
     
  18. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    I'll stop now before laying out all the facts as there is nothing really to gain from correcting your 'side' of this story.

    The only thing that matters is all of the authority figures agreed on the course of action - and from reports it seems to be working.

    Sometimes practical outweighs emotional.
     
  19. T8ergirl

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    Near the Southern Walk pool!
     
  20. OSimpson

    OSimpson Certified Master Naturalist

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    I would like to suggest that when there is an issue, situation or a problem, whatever we want to call it, that effects the group of the community, it would be helpful to have an "Official Announcement" published so we all can get the information to learn what is going on. I think to "talk" about these kind of issues on the "Forum" can create unnecessary misunderstanding or misinterpretations within the neighbors, which would be nice to avoid if possible.

    I had no idea about this issue. I received an e-mail from local "Wildlife" organization saying "...what kind of "wildlife habitat" community are you?..... When I looked in the forums I got lost in the comments, dates and everything else. I wasn't trying to be "insensitive" when I posted the information about vultures but I thought it can be something positive to add after I saw some paintball guns being brought up... I know how that can hurt... My son was into paintballing. It's sometimes hard to tell who is joking or poking on the forums. We all live here and I think we can all benefit from finding out about these type of issues with only "facts" provided by our management if possible.

    Thanks and you all have a great week,
     

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