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Turkey Vultures

Discussion in 'Nature/Habitat/Garden Corner' started by hewitt99, Aug 31, 2009.

  1. christinaandrob

    christinaandrob New Member

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    holy moly, maureen! i would not want them hanging around my deck. yikes!

    we drove by that old green house was still at the intersection of waxpool and shellhorn a few years ago (do you know the one?!), and it was covered in vultures. it was so creepy. my husband and i decided it would have been a great horror flick pic!! if only i had my camera.
     
  2. Ozgood

    Ozgood Not a space alien

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    What is so creepy about these animals?

    Is it their diet that creeps some people out?

    Is it how they have been protrayed in movies and such?
     
  3. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    it's the dead-looking, coal black feathers- the blank, blink-free, beady-eyed stare, the slow head turn following you as you walk into your home, the bold, fearless stalking toward you as you are frozen in your driveway, the gang-like gaggle of them perched on the rocks like they are WAITING for you to die so they can pick your bones and dine on your gizzards- it's like they KNOW something bad is going to happen to you and they want first dibs on your corpse.

    other than that- i dunno.
     
  4. KTdid

    KTdid Well-Known Member

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    That's a great photo! We had four perched on our patio and when the cats went to the window to see what all the fuss was, one of the vultures opened his wings and charged the window - I think our cat's perspective on birds was forever altered that day! A cat's worst nightmare...
     
  5. bgirl

    bgirl New Member

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    Here's some info I found on the internet about vultures...
    I think the picture in Maureen's post shows a black vulture as opposed to a turkey vulture (turkey vultures have red heads).

    As for the problems with these birds:
    -They can be destructive and have been known to kill live animals
    -They have a lot of excrement...which stinks and is highly acidic. It can harm a car's paint job or burn through roof shingles.
    -Their vomit contains botulism.

    From a May 31, 2005, Washington Post article:

    "Majestic fliers with a wingspan up to six feet, vultures have become notorious on farms, at marinas and on suburban streets. The turkey vulture prefers carrion, but the more aggressive black vulture will kill newborn calves, sheep or pigs. They can tear windshield wipers off cars and shred vinyl seats on boats; officials say that two dogs in Virginia have died of botulism from eating vulture vomit."

    Would you really want these things roosting on your roof, near your pets and children, with their acidic urine eating away at your shingles? Unfortunately they are a protected species, so they aren't easy to get rid of.
     
  6. typicalfamilyoffour

    typicalfamilyoffour New Member

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    Black vultures are no more aggressive than turkey vultures. They are both relatively weak birds with no talon strength. They are buzzards not raptors like eagles, owls other hawks. Their bodies are not designed for killing live animals.

    I've never ever heard about them killing live animals. I'm a long time birder, hawkwatcher, and have helped band raptors and am very curious about the source of this info. It is ridiculous. The Post article quoted did not contain accurate scientific information. These birds are avian weaklings.

    We will be seeing more of these birds around as they begin to migrate south.
     
  7. hewitt99

    hewitt99 New Member

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    That's funny you mentioned their hairballs--I found 2 for the first time tsis afternoon on my deck. Cleaned them up before I read the post about botulism. They do seem to like the trees around the townhouses of Vestals Gap etc. Has anyone been on their roof lately to see if there has been any damage from them in the past year or two?
     
  8. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    In our case, I can tell you that they have ripped out a portion of the metal screening we have over our gutters to keep the leaves out... Must have been something in there they wanted to get to.
     
  9. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    I still think they're cool.......even if they are inconvenient to some in our society. Sort of like putting up with neighbor's dogs and cats, deer eating trees and shrubs, skinks, mice, ground hogs, etc, etc.
     
  10. Chsalas

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    I say shoot em.
    :sniper:
     
  11. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    Ok, per your logic, I should put up with these birds tugging at my gutters and messing with my roof shingles, because it's just an inconvenience. They're harming our property, they're not just sitting there having a small chitchat every morning...

    YOU can think they're cool as much as you want, until you have to start paying the repair bills.

    Let's put it this way, if a deer came out of the woods behind your house every morning and took a dump on your deck, began stomping around loudly and gnawed a bit on the corners of the handrails before leaving, would you just sit around saying "Wow! Deer are cool!" and just put up with it? It's kind of unfair for you to keep posting here that they're cool when folks are stating they have valid issues with them.
     
  12. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    Buddy, I can't tell you how many times I've thought about that. Then the sensible part of me takes over. Darn my sensible half! ;)
     
  13. Ozgood

    Ozgood Not a space alien

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    How is it "unfair" for someone to post an opinion that differs from yours? :confused:
     
  14. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    It's unfair when they don't look at the big picture and belittle the fact that some of us do have a serious problem with these birds. To keep posting that "they're cool" doesn't add to the conversation in my opinion, and it's unfair to those that DO have a problem with it.

    It's not his opinion that I consider unfair, it's the fact that the poster seemed to 'belittle' our issue.
     
  15. polar8825

    polar8825 Human Propulsion Expert

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    (Knock knock)

    Who's there?

    Plumber....Candygram....
     
  16. Sunny

    Sunny Chief Advisor

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    ma'am, I'm only a crow ma'am....
     
  17. mamatothree

    mamatothree New Member

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    ...and they are protected under the Federal Migratory Bird Act...looks like Middleburg had similar issues...but here's an interesting letter to the mayor of Middleburg from the Loudoun Wildlife Federation...

    http://www.loudounwildlife.org/PDF_Files/LWC_Opposition_to_Vulture_Killing_Middleburg.pdf
     
  18. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    Be careful Cliff, you're going to get censored for your feelings towards vultures. :)
     
  19. shim

    shim shim

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    So I'm not the only one... Nice post afgm :bow:
     
  20. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    All I said is that I think they are cool birds.
    Your tender sensibilities somehow perceive this as "belittling" your issue.

    Oh, and the deer you mentioned in your previous example would not be alive much longer in this world. But you know what, I still like deer and seeing them.

    Quite frankly, in my opinion, you aren't adding much to this conversation either, other than trying to find ways to pick at me because of other issues.
     

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