Twenty Ashburn Teens Face Alcohol Charges After Post-Homecoming House Party

if an official knew about the party- why not show up there EARLIER than when kids had enough time to drink enough to land in the hospital? after it's already started so there's no time to plan it for elsewhere, able to issue citations or call parents of those underage drinkers to pick them up, able to kill the buzz before they even GET one.

i don't hold anyone but the kids who drank and the adults who allowed it responsible.

 

I believe it was in the local paper that Sherriff Simpson stated that it was their intention to arrive at the party much earlier but other law enforcement activity that required their immediate attention prevented them from doing so.

 

Valid but a different premise.

And honestly, how many kids tell their parents they are going to a party and drink? How many parents would call the cops on their own kids?

 

Not the same logic Charles. Big dif between a warning and punitive action.

There are actually "warnings" in place, they are called speed limit signs. Also, what if I do not speed, even 1 mile over, you would have me already punished.

If you want to a better analogy, try using a sobriety checkpoint. The police tell you (i.e. warning or PREVENTION!) where it will be.

 

Oh my bad 'flynnibus' - What I should've said is that:
"It was a known fact that a reasource teacher had informed the officer about this a few days prior to the dance. This was a heavily talked about subject at school for a week or so and so therefore word got around quickly (spreading to the teachers aswell) "

I see as if your school did a fine job in teaching you. Especially when it comes too a little contradiction in a "thread post"

And now I'm sure you're going to want answers to A and B, Well:

A) If the cop had warned them before hand then yes maybe they could've found a new spot to have this party but this was such a planned out event for them that I doubt they would've moved it. I'm sure they would not have any alcohol present so that if the cops had come by no one would've gotten in trouble. Some adults now-a-days think that kids are stupid in all reality they really aren't as stupid as everyone beleives they are.

B) Almost everyday a teenager is faced with learning the consequences of violating the law. I'm sure this taught them a HUGE lesson but what if you're kid(s) where there that night? And like someone said earlier your kids are not going to go out and say "Mom/Dad- I'm going out to drink tonight. Bye" No, they will convince you that everything is going to be just fine. And what if a few teachers and the school officer was well aware that there was going to be alcohol present at this party but not you? Then you get a phone call in the middle of the night to come pick up your child because he/she has been drinking? Now tell me how you feel about the officer not warning the kids and potentially putting them in danger. And I don't know about you but if I got a phone call to come pick my kid up in the middle of the night for something that could've been prevented I'd be a little ticked off.

 

Your kid chooses to go drinking underage at someone else's house and you get a call from the police in the middle of the night to pick him up and you'd be mad...at the school resource officer??! Gimme a break.

 

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... "or an imminent risk of serious harm".

No need to beat a dead horse. Hopefully lessons were learned and it won't happen again in Ashburn.

Over and out.

 

Police are law ENFORCEMENT not law PREVENTION. So, don't expect them to prevent anything. Their charter is respond once a crime has already been committed.

 

Just a question. If they heard a rumor about a gun or a bomb in school, would police or law enforcement try to prevent?

 

They would evacuate the school, essentially moving the victims from the crime as opposed to removing the criminal from the crime. So from that standpoint they would be preventing, or at least mitigating the threat/crime

If the police had a tip about the potential criminal they would, of course investigate, but if their investigation did not reveal anything, the police can't take preemptive action against the potential criminal. (with respects to Philip Dick)

This is not a frivolous issue though. The USSS has been criticized for their "proactive" measures to secure potential threats from the protected principal.

 

Well actually there was a reported rumor around Briar Woods as was posted a few weeks ago and when they heard this rumor they did try to PREVENT it by bringing several officers to the school that morning to monitor the children. Luckily they caught the kid who spreaded the alleged rumor and took him away immediately. Because of a rumor they helped to prevent something that could've been really bad.

 

20 kids went to a drinking party, at a house where the parent/adult knew about it and did nothing...3 kids (who were reported to be passed out due to alcohol) were taken to the hosptital..... AND THE OFFICER AT THE SCHOOL IS RESPONSIBLE?????

What would have happened if the police had shown up later or not at all??? How many more of these kids would have been at the hospital or worse? What would have happened when these kids got back in there cars and tried to drive home?

Every kid that blew above .000 and the parent of the house, should be made an example of. The kids knew it was illegal and so did the parent.

Just my two cents

(and my very first two cents here on the Broadlands HOA Forums)

 

Actually, many, many more kids went to the post-Homecoming party. Only 20 got caught. A lot of kids ran...into the nearby woods or down the road. Many of the kids hid in the house. They hid in closets in the house for a long while waiting to be sure the officers had gone. Many hid in the tents that had been put up on the property for the co-ed sleepover that was to take place that evening as well. Where was the adult supervision while the kids were hiding in the house?

 

Welcome to the asylum

We are all quite mad here!

 

It sure bothers the hell out of me when somebody does something stupid and they blame someone else for their stupidity. This was clearly the kids and the homeowner's responsibility. Any forewarning would have resulted in a different location but probably with the same results. Let's face it, kids do dumb things and often times they only learn from something bad happening. Let's not castigate the school officer for something that he could not have prevented. Hopefully, the kids, the homeowner, and the kid's parents will step up to the plate and demonstrate accountability.

 

A co-ed sleepover?? That's the first I heard of that. That's just as bad as letting them drink. I'm sure that with the great supervision that was going on, nothing would happen. And the parents knew about this? Who in the heck would let their kid go to that?

 

When young people drink, the potential for a tragic accident is just too high. Courts often impose a penalty in which young people can keep the conviction off their records if they stay out of trouble for a year. Therefore, our justice system has some real power to make our highways a lot safer -- and I strongly support such enforcement actions.

 

In JULY we'll know just how BAD of an idea a coed sleepover with alcohol allowed REALLY was... :scaredeyes: