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Unwaranted Locking of Topic

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by Homer Simpson, Dec 11, 2003.

  1. Homer Simpson

    Homer Simpson New Member

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    Locking the topic: Do NOT return HOA Survey sets a bad precedent just because of the action of ONE person. Instead of bowing to a vocal minority you could make all users sign a EULA that protects the HOA if that is you concern. If moderating is too much then perhaps you could tap a few users to be moderators of each forum as is the practice on IRC and other forums. This is not a criticism, doing what you do is a public service and is bound to be hectic.

    In addition, the Admin states

    This implies there were several offenders here and makes it murky what will and wont be allowed on the boards. Were my comments part of the few?

    You have a hard line to tow here and it's going the wrong way. Soon these boards will banal and useless.
     
  2. Forum Administrator

    Forum Administrator Member Forum Staff

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    Homer,

    The reason we typically lock down a topic after we delete a posting which has become 'core' to the discussion, is that without that original posting, much of the discussion loses its 'context'. The discussion then begins to move in the direction of 'well, what was originally said?", "what does this have to do with that", etc.

    As was stated in our last post in the locked topic, please feel free to continue the original discussion in the newly created topic under this forum section.

    If you continue to have issues with our decisions, please feel free to contact us offline.

    Thanks!
     
  3. hornerjo

    hornerjo Senior Member

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    You raise good points here. The Tech Committee wants these boards to be a place where anyone can voice their opinions and ask questions on any matter they want. But unfortunately there has to be a line - this place would also become quite useless if it became a shouting match in every thread. We're going to talk it over and see about a new set of rules and procedures to follow before locking of forums (or removal of posts) occurs. Please feel free to come to our meetings, we could use the help.

    Thanks,

    John

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  4. chris

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    I would like to thank the ADMIN for doing the right thing by not allowing the Broadlands website to be used for remarks that demean and degrade its residents.
     
  5. Homer Simpson

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    It wasn't demeaning if kept in context. And they didn't close it for that reason. It was closed for veering off of the thread. What exactly did you find so wrong about it? Was it just the gay comment or was it the criticism of Stephanie, who I believe is a troll and still has yet to respond as trolls are want to do.

    Hornerjo: I've thought about attending, but it's hard to make the time commitment. How often do you meet?
     
  6. chris

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    My concern was over the demeaning and degrading comment (albeit a joking comment) about gays that T8erman made. Sometimes a joke can be even more hurtful than a truly held belief because it makes the subject of the hateful remark the object of further ridicule.

    However, I also rallied to Stephanie's defense because I believe 100% that she has the right to follow the Bible and believe that women should be inferior/subservient to men. Now, I don't believe that, and I wish that she did not. However, she has a right to her beliefs.

    I guess I am such a bleeding heart that I would defend even a non-existent troll (if Stephanie is that), but I believe strongly in fairness.
     
  7. Homer Simpson

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    I understand that position but I don't agree. Stephanie can believe what she wants but when she expresses those ideas in a public forum she runs the risk of being criticized. If people didn't challenge innane comments as they came out then there would be nothing but noise and no signal.

    Those remarks about gays stemmed from Stephanie's comment that was wiped out by the admins. The target was Stephanies wrongly held belief about gays not the gays themselves.
     
  8. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    Homer, the Admins did *NOT* delete or remove any postings by Stephanie. The only one affected was the one from T8Berman.

    Users can edit or remove anything they post if that is what they want. In this case, if one of Stephanie's, or any other user's, posting seems to be missing, that is because the original author removed it or edited it.

    Thank you.

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  9. T8erman

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    Chris - who did I demean??? I jokingly said I was going to read "certain" magazines and I was going to DREAM about being committed for being "criminally insane". Tell me who I offended? Was the offense simply because I used such words and they did not jive with your overly puritanical sensibilities? You defend Stephanie yet I am not allowed to have gay pronography (please folks, I do not!) The comments I made were NOT directed at anyone! I am sorry you took offense even if I truly believe you were not! ABC store is opening soon, suggest you visit it!
     
  10. chris

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    Hi, T8erman: I did not say that you demeaned anyone, but you repeated Stephanie's demeaning and degrading language (albeit it in a joking way). My point was say that we should not encourage such behavior.

    I also have to say that I have never been called puritanical! Do you know any puritans who were praying for the ABC store to open? :) Maybe I just wish for a better world (especially as approach Christmas, Kwanzaa, Hannukah, Winter Solstice, and other holidays) were everyone could live in peace with an abundance of human dignity.
     
  11. Homer Simpson

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    My Bad! You didn't delete it but you locked the thread down because apparently it's ok to be a bigot but not to call someone out for being the said bigot.

    For those interested search all post by Stephanie and use keyword Gay. It's in the last page of the locked down thread about the hospital.
     
  12. Homer Simpson

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    Don't forget Festivus - The festival for the rest of us!
     
  13. chris

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    Ah, Festivus! It sounds so Roman, so pagan. Who could forget it?
     
  14. Homer Simpson

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    Remember, It's not over until the Feats of Strength are completed!
     
  15. chris

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    True! Though, I'm more partial to the "Airing of Grievances." However, come to think of it, that is pretty much the purpose of these Forums, right? [:p]
     
  16. Stephanie

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    So, just how quickly does the HOA cave in to the brain-washing, liberal, "holier than thou" BS of the fanatical left wing? Someone uses the three-letter g-word (not God, something else), and the HOA runs to their defense in no time flat.

    I think that T8erman should be applauded for what he said. We all live in a family-focused community, but our residents are punished for expressing family values? That ain't right. Fight the good fight, T8erman!!!

    But, I'm just a "troll" I guess! I agree if a "troll" is a God-fearing decent human being who wants to make a nice home for her husband and kids. And if I set the womens movement back 100 yrs., is that all that bad?
     
  17. Homer Simpson

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    You have just proved that you are troll. FYI - I'm an independent centrist not a left winger, not that there is anything wrong with that.
     
  18. chris

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    The g-word! Is that a word that dare not speak its name? I am rollong on the floor laughing my $%*!@ off! You crack me up. Honestly, though, Stephanie, you have a right to your beliefs, but they are a better fit with those of the countries that you and your fundamentalist Republican friends are bombing out of existence.
     
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    Stephanie,
    Setting the women's movement back 100 years is a bad thing, just think Women's Right to vote was ratified in August of 1920. So if you are fine with pushing the movement back 100 years, forget about the survey because your vote would not have been counted let alone be cared about by anyone. Also forget about your ability to speak or vote about the hospital, the HOA board members or even choosing your leaders at the county, stated and Federal levels. From the strength of your convictions and the frequency with which you express them, I don't honestly think you really want to set the women's movement back 100 years. Just wanted to put a little perspective on that off-handed remark.

    Butterfly
     
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    Which was my original point exactly...thanks for that excellent post.
     

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