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What do the roads look like?

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by sharse, Dec 20, 2009.

  1. Buffettbassman

    Buffettbassman Troll Extrordinare'

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    I can't either. Every VDOT subdivision is the same.
     
  2. sharse

    sharse TeamDonzi rocks!!

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    The hubby works at the Pentagon and said that all the rounds around there and leading to it are just fine. I wonder if that's VDOT? Or maybe it is the city that does it? Maybe that's the difference?
     
  3. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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  4. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    Except for the Town of Leesburg, which is responsible for snow removal from public streets throughout town through the Town of Leesburg Street Maintenance Division.
     
  5. wbcole

    wbcole New Member

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    Regardless of the efforts each person plowing over the last two snow storms gave its easy to see that our snow removal plan is woefully inadequate and is something the board needs to address. I don't mind my own road being plowed last (its simple common sense to do the backroads last) however its totally ridiculous that Village Drive was never really cleared when we had over eighteen inches of snow. You can also see that the plowing is not cooperative. One guy plowing one street closes off another streets intersection and doesn't come back to clear it. Again, ridiculous. If we're paying these guys to plow, at least make them do it right or hire someone else. I don't own a 4x4 and shouldn't have to buy one to drive down the busiest street in Southern Walk.
     
  6. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    It's been stated multiple times in this thread before; Village Drive is maintained by VDOT. The Broadlands HOA has nothing to do with plowing of that road. You need to contact VDOT and your local representatives to let them know your concerns with the plowing of that particular road.
     
  7. lilpea

    lilpea Member

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    Mr. Linux - please let me caveat I am in no way attempting to stir the pot or create a dust up among the current BHOA members and residents, that said;

    As a resident would it it out of line to ask the HOA to contact VDOT concerning certain highly traveled roads that have not been touch by VDOT after a significant snow storm, especially if VDOT's own time line of 2ndary/neighborhood roads have expired?

    I would think that VDOT has some type of community relations department, having an official body (such as our HOA) vs a person might may have more traction to a speedy resolution. Just a thought
     
  8. msflynn

    msflynn New Member

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    You would think that would be the case but our phone call is treated just the same as a residents is in fact we are even lower then a resident as we the HOA do not pay taxes, only the residents do. That said the HOA calls VDOT all the time as you suggest but it did not result in any speedier or better results. The best case is for the HOA and every resident on that street to call or as Mr Linex says to call your state represenative and or senator. I did see that Mark Herring and Tag Greason were going to have a meeting in a few weeks at Ashburn Library. May be a good time to talk to them about the recent plowing.

    Staci
     
  9. tyger31

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  10. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    As was mentioned earlier, if the HOA calls, it's treated as "one" caller. We can get VDOT's attention much more effectively if MANY PEOPLE CALL. It all comes down to call volume; if they get LOTS of complaints from a particular area, they tend to notice that and concentrate more effort into that area in the future. If an HOA calls, it's just like a normal resident calling them and gets logged as such.

    Remember, the HOA doesn't supply the precious tax income used to fund VDOT, residents do!
     
  11. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    When is this??
     
  12. msflynn

    msflynn New Member

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    I don't know - something from Herring's office was mailed here and I happened to see it. But looks like it has been thrown away as I can not find it anywhere.

    I think he had planned 6 or so meetings around the area so maybe you can check with his office for more information or maybe someone else here knows??

    Staci
     
  13. Buffettbassman

    Buffettbassman Troll Extrordinare'

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    I voiced my concern again to VDOT, this time to the regional superintendant who actually took my phone call.

    I'll summarize his response in sarcasm:

    Blah, Blah, Blah, did the best we could. Blah, blah, blah, biggest snow in a decade. Blah, blah, blah, budget cuts by the state...decreased tax revenue...reliance on contractors who charge top dollar. Blah, blah, blah, we're almost at our allotted budget with just this one storm. Blah, blah, blah, the equipment is old and inadequate. Blah, blah, blah: not enough people even for a regular storm.

    Needless to say, I wasn't impressed.
     
  14. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    But he wasn't lying either.
     
  15. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    I would have told him I emphasize with him for the first 3 days after the storm. But how about a week later?

    BTW - there are still ice packs in the middle of my street from the first storm. Smaller now (3 weeks later!), only about the size of manhole covers... but it goes to show there was no follow-up after they came through.And here lies the reality of transportation funding in VA.

    Everything he said is true - VA doesn't fund transportation for jack, and that includes snow removal. Combine that with the budget shortfall due to the decline in revenues and the 'spend every penny' mentality of government and this is what you get. Who you shouldn't be impressed with is your government - not VDOT.
     
  16. tyger31

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    No matter how you look at it - it's the way it will be every time it snows.....guess we might as well get used to it. Unfortunately!
     
  17. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Tyger - I have lived in LoCo most of life and it has ALWAYS been this way.

    Honestly, what surprises me is that people (often the same) complain every year, every significant snow storm and then express outrage when the roads are not plowed to their liking the NEXT time. We live in a state that has limited budget for snow removal, unfortunately that budget is shared throughout the state when, IMO most of it should be allocated for the north. We get more inclement winter weather than most of the state. Richmond and south is typically 7-10 warmer than we are.
    But I am realistic and realize things most likely will never change.
     
  18. tyger31

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    I've lived in NoVA since 1984 and it was a lot better years ago than it is now. I deal with it now, fortunately - snow doesn't stop me - I grew up in Bfl area. If things aren't plowed, I'm usually able to get out.
     
  19. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Big difference between then and now. Significantly more people, more roads and most likely only a small % of money to offset the growth.
    - many 2 lanes roads back in the day are now 4-6 lanes
    - due to the amount of traffic, roads get driven on packing the snow/ice before the plows can effectively remove it. People just did not venture out as much back in the day during a significant storm.
    - and it may just be me but it seems that WAAY more people actually used their garages and driveways back then making it easier to plow the side streets
     
  20. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    Umm, I was with you till you said we get more weather than most. Not so, western VA and the NC VA border would definately argue with you. It's across the state. Get use to it people, just slow down, deal with it, and then get your car realigned come March.

     

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