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Yard/Road Campaign Signs

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by brim, Oct 29, 2004.

  1. brim

    brim Member

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    I've been noticing quite a few of these in yards around the community (both parties). Anyone else think these are an unnecessary eyesore? Surely there is something in the guidelines against it. Who exactly are these targeting anyhow? We see them election after election in yards and along roads and most of them are still there months later.

    I'd like to see statistics on people who's vote has been swayed based on a sign they saw in someones yard. If you're basing your vote on signage then I'd argure you're not responsible enough to vote in the first place.
     
  2. Barbara

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    Brim, this isn't stats on advertising, but the reason we're seeing more is because some free speech case was decided in court. The ruling is something to the effect that covenants can't trump the right to express political free speech. I know I was told when picking up my Wolf sign that it could be displayed in my yard for up to thirty days before the election, and had to come down immediately after. I still have it inside my window though--doesn't get stolen, damaged by weather, or whatever. I don't know the exact case and ruling, but recall also the one about the guy suing his HOA over his right to have a flagpole and fly the US flag?

    Barbara Munsey, from South Riding.
     
  3. boomertsfx

    boomertsfx Booyakasha!

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    I don't see the need for it here, since virginia always votes republican =)
     
  4. FL Native

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    I don't find the signs to be an eyesore at all. Rather, I see it as involvement in the political process. So long as the signs are reasonable in size, not dammaged, and come down soon after the election, I don't see a problem with them.
     
  5. Pats_fan

    Pats_fan Former Resident

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    I don't mind the signs, either...until I am still seeing them weeks after the election. Who is accountable for removing a sign placed in a public area (like along roadsides)? It bothers me to see so many signs go uncollected for so long -- once the election is over, they are nothing more than litter.
     
  6. brim

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    I think the issue with me is not that they're so much an eyesore, but what difference could they possibly make in the outcome of an election? I can't fathom someone making a decision about the leadership for a country/state/county/city based solely on a sign. Signs contain no information on the candidate's policies, beliefs, values, etc...the only thing they do is drill a name into your head, which is their intent. The same goes for partisan printed literature with skewed infromation in them.

    It's just sad what elections have come to in this country...people basing votes on pamphlets or basing their vote on only one issue ("I don't care what happens to the economy, as long as I get to keep my gun!" or "I don't care how much my taxes go up, as long as abortion is legal!"). I'll stop ranting now. :(
     
  7. Barbara

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    It is supposed to be taken down by those who put it up, and in a timely fashion. Signs in VDOT right of way can be reported to VDOT, because they aren't supposed to be there.

    Barbara Munsey, from South Riding.
     
  8. boomertsfx

    boomertsfx Booyakasha!

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    brim, there are tons of morons in the US. The signs are for them =)
     
  9. brim

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    I realize this, but I was trying to get around saying "I'm tired of the easily suggestible, unwashed masses being in charge of deciding our country's leadership." :)
     
  10. Mearen

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    So you're against the version of democracy our country subscribes to. It couldn't possibly be that you think the majority of your fellow Americans are under-educated, since you're not aware of the guidelines regarding the signs.
     
  11. brim

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    I'm against the version of campaigning our candidates subscribe to, it's built to mislead and skew the opinions of uninformed voters.

    Not being aware of neighborhood signage guidelines and not being fully educated about who you're casting your ballot for to lead the most powerful nation in the world are two completely different levels of being 'under-educated'. It never ceases to amaze me the parallels and comparisons people try to draw...give me a break.
     
  12. L0stS0ul

    L0stS0ul hmmmm

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    Really, signs in someones yard is the same as the bumper sticker on their car. What point do they really serve other than to "advertise" their candidate. I personally could care less who other people are going to vote for but it's their right to let me know if they want to :) It doesn't bother me as long as they are brought down soon after the election... and that goes for those bumper sticker too :)
     
  13. snoopy

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    I think it is wonderful to live in a such a diverse community. I see Bush and Kerry signs all over the place…. Although I do not see Nader’s sign ( people could still write in Nader on 11/02 ) … haahaaa:D
     
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    I don't mind the political signs or the bumper stickers. It's when someone puts up a sign in their front yard that reads "My Child is an Honor Roll Student at Eagle Ridge Middle School" that I will take issue. [:eek:)]
     
  15. neilz

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    Political signs are falls under the Bill of Rights as freedom of speech. The only requirement in the modifications guidelines are:

    -- No more than three political campaign election signs are allowed. These signs must be removed immediately after the election.


    )rant mode on( ===============================================

    I served in the military for people's right to say what they believe.

    There are exceptions, these forums are fairly open, but inflammatory or libelous posts are censored and/or removed. Why, because this is not a constitutionally protected form of speech.

    Election signs ARE a constitutionally protected form of speech, and I support anyone's right to place them on their lawns, even if I support the other candidate.

    I will also support any arrest of anyone trying to remove such signs from private property for the same reason, that person was trying to deprive someone of their freedom of speech.

    There are too many incidents of campaign signs being destroyed, and the front of people's homes being trashed. You can agree to disagree amicably. I hope to God that we never get to the point where we become like a 3rd world country, where supporters of one side, take out and beat supporters of the other side.

    )rant mode off( ================================================

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  16. brim

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    Like I said, my main issue isn't actually with the sigsn in yards but more so that they are unnecessary in the first place. I don't think a simple sign would sway a person's vote, so thats the wrong reason to have a sign up. If you're not trying to sway voters but simply advertise who you support and are voting for, that's fine and dandy too...but voting is a private thing, that's why it's done in booths and behind curtians...it's supposed to be a secret. By advertising who you're voting for, you're asking for the '3rd world mentality' where some idiot supporting the opposing candidate steals your signs, eggs your house, threatens you or worse. Sure you have the right to put stuff in your yard/windows, but there are always some morons out there that will make you a target because of that.

    Elections and politics should be like religion. You get the facts about everything yourself from non-partisan sources, make an informed decision, and keep it to yourself. If only religion held to that policy as well, the world would be a lot better place.
     
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    I respect your opinion, I disagree with it, but honor your right to say it.



    Neil Z.
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  18. mdr227

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    This whole issue to me relates to holiday decorations. What one person might think to be OK (like a hugh blown up snowman in your front yard or obnoxiously large lights on a house) someone else might not. As long as the there is a time limit to how long decorations or political signs are allowed to remain up I don't think anyone should really worry about it. It's when the decorations or signs stay up for weeks after the fact that it's an issue. If anyone wants to see an example of political signage gone wild just drive down any major street such as Rt 7, Rt 123, Rt 1, etc. closer to DC.
     
  19. Skimout

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    if only...
     
  20. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    Signs are illegal in public right of ways. VDOT and the County ordnances outline it as such.

    I have no problem with folks putting temporary political signs up in their yards. In fact, I think it is a good thing.

    What I can't stand is blatant "road spam". I have no respect for candidates (or businesses for that matter) who break the law and pollute our roads.
     

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