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Yet Another Accident at Waxpool and Claiborne

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by longtimer, Feb 14, 2004.

  1. Linda Schlosser

    Linda Schlosser New Member

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    Yea. Thanks longtimer. As someone who uses the claiborne/waxpool intersection multiple times daily I appreciate your efforts.

    Who ever gets the updated information: it would be nice topublish something in the newsletter regarding progress (or lack there of).
    Who ever gets the update can you please forward it to newsletter@broadlandshoa.com? Thanks in advance.:D
     
  2. kholbert

    kholbert Member

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    There was another accident at Waxpool/Claiborne on Tuesday, March 30th @ about 5PM. A compact car traveling East on Waxpool T-boned a Camry traveling South onto Claiborne. Both drivers appeared to be OK. The driver of the Camry was frustrated at the lack of a light at that intersection.

    This morning I almost got nailed by a BMW traveling East on Waxpool when I was crossing South to North on Claiborne. Part of the problem with that intersection is that its difficult to determine who the right of way of cars turning from Claiborne onto Waxpool. By time you visually sweep oncoming traffic, speeding motorist on Waxpool are bearing down on you after you have committed to crossing. Yeah, I speed on Claiborne, only because I had to floor the accellerator in order to get across Waxpool without getting hit. I will be SO glad when they finish Wyndridge to 702 (exit 6 on Greenway) so I can avoid the Waxpool/Claiborne.
     
  3. boomertsfx

    boomertsfx Booyakasha!

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    mmm, traffic circle
     
  4. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    kholbert - wouldn't have been the BMW who got nailed? Being on Waxpool, it had the right-of-way.
    I drive this intersection everyday and at varying times. Simply put, go when it is safe for ALL drivers! Odds are if you to "floor it" then you are are most likely making the other driver use their brakes.

    Patience
     
  5. brim

    brim Member

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    I still fail to see why this intersection is such a huge problem...you can see plenty far enough in both directions to cross safely, same goes for Claiborne/Broadlands. Sure, you may have to sit there and wait a minute, but you'll eventually get across. Can't we all just accept the fact that people can't drive and blame them?
     
  6. veronicasmommi

    veronicasmommi New Member

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    As far as I am concerned, if you can't obey traffic patterns and signs, then you don't need a license. Come on people its not that hard. The intersection is not the problem.... it is the irresponsible drivers.
     
  7. Dutchml

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    The problem is with drivers not familier with the area. I've seen drivers on Claiborne go straight through that intersection at 50 mph without ever having seen the stop sign. Completely oblivious. That's why people traveling on Waxpool get T-boned. They don't have a stop sign and they never see the broadside coming. It's important to slow down approaching that intersection when on Waxpool and be aware of drivers on Claiborne flying through it.
     
  8. DAD4

    DAD4 New Member

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    I have never noticed, but are there "stop ahead" signs on Claiborne? If not, this may help until a light is installed.
     
  9. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    Yes, DAD4, I believe there are...

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    Yea, REALLY SOON now!
     
  10. Mearen

    Mearen New Member

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    If you're not familiar with an area, you might want to obey the speed limit laws then. These roads are all clearly marked and it's surely not 50mph.
     
  11. Dutchml

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    If they're not going to "obey" the stop sign, what makes you think they'll "obey" the speed limit signs....that's precisely my point. And when you get broadsided, it won't matter to you if they hit you at 35 or 50.
     
  12. Chsalas

    Chsalas Member

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    The stops signs at Clairborn and Waxpool are the size of a house. How can anyone not see them.
     
  13. hberg

    hberg give me some of your tots

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    I know that sometimes when you cross over waxpool and the car on waxpool is turning to go north on Claiborne, and you are heading that way too, you think you can make it by going across and staying in the left lane while the Claiborne driver takes the turn and legally should stay in the right lane. However, alot of cars cut the corner wide and go into that left lane. Thus accident.

    Since the Claiborne driver has right of way but made the turn illegally, I wonder then who is at fault?

    This is meant only as a question that I was curious to know. I did that once and almost got hit, and have not done it again. I wait until the whole path is clear.
     
  14. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    You think they ignore the signs because they aren't familiar with the area?? How about they miss the signs. I mean.. people roll through stop signs intentionally... but no one blows through stop signs intentionally (unless they are running from the cops :) ).

    I can see how people could unintentionally not stop. But no one blows through a stop sign to cross a 4 lane road intentionally.

    I'd agree there would be a problem with people who aren't familiar with the intersection and who aren't paying attention being a problem. But I also agree when someone is in a unfamilar area, they should be paying more attention.

    -Steve
     
  15. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    Every 2 lane intersection is like that. I think technically the car is supposed to only turn into the near lane, but since they are already through the intersection (or further then you), if you made the right and caused a collision I bet you'd be ticketed for failing to yield and causing an accident.

    -Steve
     
  16. GCyr

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    The majority of people do not stop at STOP signs -- they roll through them as they quickly glance from side to side. I remember very clearly from my driver's ed class that "you must come to a complete stop, look both ways, and proceed through the intersection with caution." It would be darn near impossible to have an accident at an intersection if those instructions were followed by everyone. Even if the other driver didn't follow those instructions, the "proceed through the intersection with caution" should save you from having an accident. DUH!! It's not rocket science folks...

    At my previous home, I could watch the STOP sign at our street corner from my computer den. Based on my observation, only a minority of drivers came to a complete stop. Again, only based on my observation, most of the drivers "blowing" through the STOP sign were people driving mini-vans, probably with kids on board, and their little sign informing other drivers they should drive carefully because there are kids on board. Observe for yourselves how people treat STOP signs in our own neighborhood...
     
  17. Dwarflord

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    This is exactly correct and more than likely the cause of the majority of the accidents. While some accidents are truly just that, "accidents", the majority of accidents here can be avoided by follwing the law. At stop signs, the law states that your vehicle must come to a rest. Its not a YIELD sign there folks, You MUST STOP! If I had a dime everytime I saw someone coming off of Claiborne slowing to the stop sign and then punching the gas w/out stopping just to save a few seconds because they "THINK" they can just Make it. Ridiculous. The problem is people know the law and choose not to obey it to save themselves a few seconds or even minutes (speeding, not stopping) can cost someone a life ---- its not worth it, we all have to share the roads and some kind of structure to "RULES" must be followed to avoid chaos.
    Man, Im just ranting......anyways, just stop ....:D

    DwArFlOrD
     
  18. Dwarflord

    Dwarflord New Member

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    They both would be at fault.
    1) The claiborne driver for crossing over lanes during a turn -not supposed to do this,your right
    2) the driver crossing over waxpool to claiborne has the stop sign and must yield to ALL traffic on Waxpool East and West-(hence the stop sign), and even that traffic turning off of waxpool onto a differnt road.
    Both drivers SHOULD get tickets, but I think the driver who was crossing waxpool would end up being charged for failing to yield / stop at the stop sign to traffic that had the right of way. This offense is more black and white, whereas the crossing over too many lanes while turning is a little more gray --- dont think ive ever seen this enforced.

    DwArFlOrD
     
  19. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    Nail it to get across? Try waiting long enough to guage the speed of the on-coming cars.. not just if they are present or not.

    Honestly I have no sympathy for you or the person in the accident you described. If you are crossing Waxpool you both knew you were at a stop sign, and you both know YOU are responsible for not causing an accident.

    If you are 'rushing' to not get hit, you are doing something seriously wrong. You can see for ages both directions.. both sides of the road easily from that stop sign. Maybe you should stop before you proceed.

    -Steve
     

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