Pit Bull off lease

[MadCat07]

Originally Posted by Mr. Linux

Folks, this is a thread over 3 years old revived by someone who created an account yesterday. Just saying...

Perhaps he/she moved in recently and had an encounter with a neighbor in the last few days and this spurred him/her to create an account and post here.

[mikebnllnb]

Originally Posted by Hypurman1

Mikebnllnb, you're agreeing with me under the boundary of your opinion. Unfortunately, you must remember that you're wrong. As per Animal Control, and Loudoun County laws: http://inter4.loudoun.gov/controls/s...neral+Offenses

"A dog running at large is a dog which is roaming, running or self-hunting off the property of its owner or custodian and is not under its owner's or custodian's immediate control. However, in any County owned public park (except for any specifically designated Aoff-leash A areas) or within any residential development in
any unincorporated area of the County which has a density of two housing units or more to the gross acre, a dog shall be deemed to run at large while roaming, running or selfhunting off the property of its owner or custodian and not under leash control."

So it's not just my property. My dog can be anywhere, as long as it's leashed and under my direct control. So loose-leash, the leash on the ground, an electronic leash, or training purposes (again, direct control), it DOESN"T have to just by on my property, as long as the dog isn't roaming, running, or self hunting.

The problem is you live in a area where you have neighbors that rather not trust your judgement as to the level of control you may have over your dog if you choose to walk a dog of any breed off leash in the community.

[Hypurman1]

Moderator, you're right. I openly started with the caveat of the age of this post and the fact that I had just come across it but wanted to write my own reply. Honestly, I didn't expect ANY reply or for anyone to come across it. So no, I'm not a "troll". I simply gave my own opinion supported by facts and the law that everyone tries to hide behind.
I came across this thread because I WAS looking up the county laws governing leashes, and this was the first site that came up on google - not only was it informative (someone had previously written the 612 codes), but the subject was even started by a man training his pitbulls - so more than close to home it was a direct hit. I am a Dog Park Monitor at a local dogpark, and I have to educate people constantly that the dog is rarely the problem, it's the human. The exact instance that got me on this website was as follows:
I had my pitbull by my side with his shock-collar on (and I can go into detail on my preference for such a device, but that would be a different conversation), and I was simply walking him. In the distance there was a man jogging/speed-walking with a small rodent of a dog (I honestly don't know the small breeds, so I won't pretend to say it was a Pomeranian, etc.). I saw the small dog, and so did my Pitbull. I had my dog sit, and gave the command "Leave it alone," and was going to just let it go. I didn't say Stay, or Wait, only sit, and the order to not touch the small dog. As the man approached, his tiny dog started yapping at mine. My dog stood up, and his tail was wagging. Seeing the movement the man panicked, picked up his dog, and started running at a full sprint.
Now, anyone with any sense can see the problem here. EVERYTHING this man did was wrong. Even if my dog HAD been on a leash attached to my hand, you do not pick up the animal, and you definitely do not run. You get between you and the animals, and you shout, make large movements, but you do not panic, run, or pick up the toy dog. Any dog will think it's some game and get excited. My dog started wagging it's tail like mad and barked. The thing is? I have a TRAINED dog. He didn't even make an advance at the man, once I shouted at him to sit again, followed by a stay, he obeyed. I didnt need to use the shock collar at all. So, situation averted, right? Wrong. His wife/girlfriend was a hundred yards away with another rodent, and she wanted to give me an ear-full.
Point is, MY dog was PERFECT, I was in the legal right, and it was HER husband that was the moron. But I have the vicious, nasty, unpredictable pitbull which should be put down.
So, I started searching for the actual law just to make sure I WAS in the right, only to find out I was. But, I found this site, and the thread, and wanted to join in.
You don't have to trust MY judgment as to the level of control I have over my dog. I understand that. Common sense isn't common. But you SHOULD know how to properly respond in a situation, and if you're going to throw around words like "breaking the law" and "Your dog should be put down," you better know what the hell you're talking about.

[mikebnllnb]

Originally Posted by Hypurman1

Moderator, you're right. I openly started with the caveat of the age of this post and the fact that I had just come across it but wanted to write my own reply. Honestly, I didn't expect ANY reply or for anyone to come across it. So no, I'm not a "troll". I simply gave my own opinion supported by facts and the law that everyone tries to hide behind.
I came across this thread because I WAS looking up the county laws governing leashes, and this was the first site that came up on google - not only was it informative (someone had previously written the 612 codes), but the subject was even started by a man training his pitbulls - so more than close to home it was a direct hit. I am a Dog Park Monitor at a local dogpark, and I have to educate people constantly that the dog is rarely the problem, it's the human. The exact instance that got me on this website was as follows:
I had my pitbull by my side with his shock-collar on (and I can go into detail on my preference for such a device, but that would be a different conversation), and I was simply walking him. In the distance there was a man jogging/speed-walking with a small rodent of a dog (I honestly don't know the small breeds, so I won't pretend to say it was a Pomeranian, etc.). I saw the small dog, and so did my Pitbull. I had my dog sit, and gave the command "Leave it alone," and was going to just let it go. I didn't say Stay, or Wait, only sit, and the order to not touch the small dog. As the man approached, his tiny dog started yapping at mine. My dog stood up, and his tail was wagging. Seeing the movement the man panicked, picked up his dog, and started running at a full sprint.
Now, anyone with any sense can see the problem here. EVERYTHING this man did was wrong. Even if my dog HAD been on a leash attached to my hand, you do not pick up the animal, and you definitely do not run. You get between you and the animals, and you shout, make large movements, but you do not panic, run, or pick up the toy dog. Any dog will think it's some game and get excited. My dog started wagging it's tail like mad and barked. The thing is? I have a TRAINED dog. He didn't even make an advance at the man, once I shouted at him to sit again, followed by a stay, he obeyed. I didnt need to use the shock collar at all. So, situation averted, right? Wrong. His wife/girlfriend was a hundred yards away with another rodent, and she wanted to give me an ear-full.
Point is, MY dog was PERFECT, I was in the legal right, and it was HER husband that was the moron. But I have the vicious, nasty, unpredictable pitbull which should be put down.
So, I started searching for the actual law just to make sure I WAS in the right, only to find out I was. But, I found this site, and the thread, and wanted to join in.
You don't have to trust MY judgment as to the level of control I have over my dog. I understand that. Common sense isn't common. But you SHOULD know how to properly respond in a situation, and if you're going to throw around words like "breaking the law" and "Your dog should be put down," you better know what the hell you're talking about.

If you wish to change peoples perceptions of the Pitbull your Holier than thou attitude is not the way to do it.

[MadCat07]

Originally Posted by Hypurman1

Moderator, you're right. I openly started with the caveat of the age of this post and the fact that I had just come across it but wanted to write my own reply. Honestly, I didn't expect ANY reply or for anyone to come across it. So no, I'm not a "troll". I simply gave my own opinion supported by facts and the law that everyone tries to hide behind.
I came across this thread because I WAS looking up the county laws governing leashes, and this was the first site that came up on google - not only was it informative (someone had previously written the 612 codes), but the subject was even started by a man training his pitbulls - so more than close to home it was a direct hit. I am a Dog Park Monitor at a local dogpark, and I have to educate people constantly that the dog is rarely the problem, it's the human. The exact instance that got me on this website was as follows:
I had my pitbull by my side with his shock-collar on (and I can go into detail on my preference for such a device, but that would be a different conversation), and I was simply walking him. In the distance there was a man jogging/speed-walking with a small rodent of a dog (I honestly don't know the small breeds, so I won't pretend to say it was a Pomeranian, etc.). I saw the small dog, and so did my Pitbull. I had my dog sit, and gave the command "Leave it alone," and was going to just let it go. I didn't say Stay, or Wait, only sit, and the order to not touch the small dog. As the man approached, his tiny dog started yapping at mine. My dog stood up, and his tail was wagging. Seeing the movement the man panicked, picked up his dog, and started running at a full sprint.
Now, anyone with any sense can see the problem here. EVERYTHING this man did was wrong. Even if my dog HAD been on a leash attached to my hand, you do not pick up the animal, and you definitely do not run. You get between you and the animals, and you shout, make large movements, but you do not panic, run, or pick up the toy dog. Any dog will think it's some game and get excited. My dog started wagging it's tail like mad and barked. The thing is? I have a TRAINED dog. He didn't even make an advance at the man, once I shouted at him to sit again, followed by a stay, he obeyed. I didnt need to use the shock collar at all. So, situation averted, right? Wrong. His wife/girlfriend was a hundred yards away with another rodent, and she wanted to give me an ear-full.
Point is, MY dog was PERFECT, I was in the legal right, and it was HER husband that was the moron. But I have the vicious, nasty, unpredictable pitbull which should be put down.
So, I started searching for the actual law just to make sure I WAS in the right, only to find out I was. But, I found this site, and the thread, and wanted to join in.
You don't have to trust MY judgment as to the level of control I have over my dog. I understand that. Common sense isn't common. But you SHOULD know how to properly respond in a situation, and if you're going to throw around words like "breaking the law" and "Your dog should be put down," you better know what the hell you're talking about.

You aren't doing much to advance your cause here.

[T8erman]

Most people are not aware of a "leashless" (?) leash. If someone approaches apprehensively, a friendly comment regarding such could go a long way to alleviate some peoples fear.

[JLC]

Originally Posted by T8erman

Most people are not aware of a "leashless" (?) leash. If someone approaches apprehensively, a friendly comment regarding such could go a long way to alleviate some peoples fear.

Along these lines, I wish more people with invisible fences would have some sort of notice that they have one. More than once I've been walking on a sidewalk and have had a dog run towards me barking and I crossed my fingers that there was an invisible fence.

[BzyCookn]

Hey, thanks a bunch for clarifying the law to all of us potential "morons"! I'm so glad I have this in writing. Next time I'm on foot with my children, and find your dog unleashed again, I'll be sure to hand over your comments to the sheriff's office once they arrive. Thanks for saving me oodles of time! Cheers!

[Hypurman1]

Originally Posted by BzyCookn

Hey, thanks a bunch for clarifying the law to all of us potential "morons"! I'm so glad I have this in writing. Next time I'm on foot with my children, and find your dog unleashed again, I'll be sure to hand over your comments to the sheriff's office once they arrive. Thanks for saving me oodles of time! Cheers!

Ooo! Passive aggressive threats are so much fun! I'm glad I could save you oodles of time But, let me save you some more time. Loudoun County Sheriff's Office (LCSO) doesn't deal with cases like this. So be sure to call Animal Control.
http://www.loudoun.gov/index.aspx?nid=618
Eastern Loudoun
Ph: 703-777-0406
Western Loudoun
Ph: 540-882-3211

And you're calling in reference of someone (in your opinion) violating Loudoun County Ordinance Chapter 612.02 (m) and (y), and Virginia Code § 3.2-6538, and § 3.2-6539.

Cheers!

[Capricorn1964]

If anyone's dog (notice that I am being general here and not towards anyone in particular) is unleashed and for some unknown reason does bite someone, I would hope that the owner of the dog has a GOOD insurance policy to cover the injuries and potential lawsuit.

I've been bitten by someone's unleashed dog when I was young kid walking across a playground (and no, I didn't accost the dog at all!) Suffice to say, lawyers got involved and dog was taken away by animal control. Owner then was dogless after that since the dog didn't have his rabies shots at the time.

Peace!

Originally Posted by Hypurman1

Ooo! Passive aggressive threats are so much fun! I'm glad I could save you oodles of time But, let me save you some more time. Loudoun County Sheriff's Office (LCSO) doesn't deal with cases like this. So be sure to call Animal Control.
http://www.loudoun.gov/index.aspx?nid=618
Eastern Loudoun
Ph: 703-777-0406
Western Loudoun
Ph: 540-882-3211

And you're calling in reference of someone (in your opinion) violating Loudoun County Ordinance Chapter 612.02 (m) and (y), and Virginia Code § 3.2-6538, and § 3.2-6539.

Cheers!