LoTimes Article on FIOS

[flynnibus]

Originally Posted by KnKCorson

The question asked was "...were you elected to the SWHOA Board or appointed by its current Directors?" it only requires ONE word to answer. How do I "Clear the Air" on actions taken by someone else (i.e. VM)

If you feel one word answers convey the full story.. more power to you. I didn't realize you expect someone to write a list of 20 questions to get more then a one word reply. Usually when someone asks a question, the answer explains itself.

Your right. How could you have known? I have NEVER seen you at a SWHOA BoD meeting, nor in a SWHOA tech committee meeting, or for that matter at Erika’s house talking with the reporter. Perhaps if you were ‘truly’ engaged, you would have known this.

So that's your response to any member of the community who asks you something? You don't deserve to know because you weren't at these meetings? Nice tact - very welcoming. Kind of reminds me of the welcome you gave Eric. At least now I know he wasn't singled out.

Flynnibus, Just Curious, What on earth does this mean? Are you attempting to insinuate something without saying something?

No.. its a QUESTION. Again.. you are defensive. I'm just curious, did they just pick names out of a hat? I don't know.. THAT'S WHY I ASKED. Did you write an essay on why you wanted to be on the board? Did you state why your interest? I don't know. I'M CURIOUS. Because when you run for the Broadlands board, you do write such a statement. I was curious did the SWHOA solict anything besides NAMES from people. Good lord man.. its a freaking question.. calm down. Why don't you focus on answering the question rather then wondering if there is some double-secret-probation inquiry? I was wondering how you ended up on the baord... I didn't even know if you wanted to be on.. did you do it as a favor.. do you have a specific interest in the topic... do you have a history of representing your neighborhood and you wanted to do the same here.. I don't know anything about you or how you arrived on the board. It was just a question to understand the story. Stop being so conspiracy theory and realize people just want to get to know you and your situation. Good lord.

As a matter of fact no. Please feel free to satisfy your curiosity by asking the people capable of answering (i.e. VM)

Ignorance is bliss I suppose is your tune.

[Pats_fan]

I'm an outside observer to this mess (though I did live with Openband in Broadlands South until 2005), but it seems to me that since KnKCorson and the other member were appointed to a board position that has traditionally been a homeowner-elected position (and is it supposed to be an elected position?), it is only right for those appointed members to introduce themselves to the community and explain their views towards VM/Openband, their contacts/relationship to VM/Openband, and any other relevant information that they would disclose in an election.

I know that if I were still a homeowner in Broadlands South and two normally-elected "resident" reps were thrust upon me by Van Metre/Openband and were going to be representing my interests on the board, I would want to know more about their views and how they intended to represent my interests.

But that's just me.

[vacliff]

Ken-
Welcome to volunteer service!!

Flynnibus-
To sum it up in a nutshell. SW HOA resident reps have previously been elected by the residents. The two reps that were on the Board resigned.
A call was put out for volunteers interested in serving on the Board.
Per their Articles of Incorporation, this appointment would last until the next Annual Meeting (this month) where new reps SHALL be elected.
I believe 5 people put their names in and were eventually interviewed.
Van Metre cancelled several months worth of meetings and delayed appointing the resident reps until last month.
Because some of the Van Metre SW HOA reps do not like some of the people who volunteered and did not want to risk these people being elected in May, they chose to violate their own HOA Articles of Incorporation and APPOINT two resident reps for 3 year terms.
Ken was selected as well as another gentleman who has since declined the appointment.
This process Van Metre used led to outraged residents who then wondered about who these two were that were appointed. Van Metre's unfortunately creating problems among the residents.

ALL Broadlands residents should be aware that Van Metre may try to pull this same trick at our meeting next month because one of the people they wanted to keep off the SW HOA Board is runing for the Broadlands HOA Board. If they try it they will learn the meaning of "Hell hath no fury like an HOA President scorned."

[Pats_fan]

Wow, this whole situation stinks. Hundreds (thousands?) of residents are locked into a multi-decade-long contract with Openband, and are ostensibly protected by a homeowner board that is controlled by the developer. The developer gets a kickback by Openband, and the two "resident elected" homeowners on the board, who are supposed to be independent of the developer, are instead appointed by the developer to three-year terms.

I'm no contract lawyer, but this sounds about as strong a case for an unconscionable/unenforcable contract that you can imagine.

And here's the kicker: the HOA won't sue--they're controlled by the developer--and even if an individual homeowner (or group of homeowners) got together and sued VM/Openband and successfully got the contract voided, where does that leave the residents? Assuming Openband pulls out (debatable), it leaves them without any land-based phone, internet or cable services until rights-of-way/easements/etc. are worked out for another provider to step in.

Maybe instead of suing VM/Openband for rescission of the contract, the discussion should focus on suing to get the contract modified so that the contract can be less one-sided and more homeowner-friendly. Just a thought...

[lilpea]

Originally Posted by vacliff

ALL Broadlands residents should be aware that Van Metre may try to pull this same trick at our meeting next month because one of the people they wanted to keep off the SW HOA Board is runing for the Broadlands HOA Board. If they try it they will learn the meaning of "Hell hath no fury like an HOA President scorned."

Have I told the HOA President lately (in the words of Farris Buller) "you're my hero"? Gee... I wondering who that "one person" Van Metre targeted for the SW HOA and now may target for the BHOA position...is this person fondly known as the pittbull?

[T8erman]

Originally Posted by beahmer

Actually Cliff I believe ONE of us does live in Southern Walk - You been by my house

AHH MAN!!!! I wanted to be the one to correct Cliff!

[T8erman]

Originally Posted by KnKCorson

Personally, I'd like to make the OBB contract work for us. Based on the discussions maybe I'm in the minority on this?

We would also like to see things work out as we have not had any technical issues related to OBB. We are extremely pleased with the internet speeds.

We would like more HDTV channels without paying an arm and a leg to get them.

[Zeratul]

generally - it is kinda understandable that Ken became defensive, as I think many homeowners presented more of negative impression rather than trying to build a constructive relationship. Which in turn resulted in approaching many questions and inquiries from this Board with feelings of being targeted unfairly.

Right or wrong - something like this forum is not the place for this kind of exchange because of the potential complications due to the lack of personal contact. It is too easy to take shots and misunderstand...

Now, what was this thread about - I think we lost a coherent conversation on this one a while ago - close the thread?

[vacliff]

Originally Posted by T8erman

AHH MAN!!!! I wanted to be the one to correct Cliff!

Yes, I know t8. The opportunities are so few!!!

[flynnibus]

Originally Posted by vacliff

A call was put out for volunteers interested in serving on the Board.

Curious.. was this through the newsletter or some other means?

Thanks for addressing the question Cliff.

I know the board didn't recognize why they selected whomever from the volunteers.. but I am amazed the appointees haven't even offered up why they volunteered in the first place. I just want to hear why they are motivated or interested. It just a personality type question.. not an inquisition