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First Hospital now a Hotel in the Broadlands

Discussion in 'General Chat Forum' started by Lee, Jun 29, 2008.

  1. Lee

    Lee Permanent Vacation

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    See what happens first you want to change land use to hospital, now they are going for changing residential to hotel. When does it stop.

    One thing to change land use to more compatible uses with residential and good transition to residential but now residential to hotel.

    Change one land use and now they want to change land use even to a greater degree.

    Personally I believe this complicates the hospital land use change.

    Proposed hotel to go on east side of Moorview Parkway west of Ryan road on residential land.

    Brambleton has one of the best land use plans in Loudoun the best town center in Loudoun and it is even more dense then many other puds. Wonderful transitions to commercial thru parks and very pedestrian friendly.
     
  2. dcdavis

    dcdavis Ooops!!

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    Lee - Not sure what you're talking about. The hotel is going in the corner of the Greenway entrance ramp, Ashburn Vlg Blvd, and Old Ryan Road (what is currently the gravel parking lot across Old Ryan Rd from the new sign/fountain). That is not zoned residential - it may be shown as "PD-H" something, but it is further "administered" as an office zoning district.
     
  3. Lee

    Lee Permanent Vacation

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    Yes but it takes a zoning change from 4 residential units per acre to hotel.
     
  4. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Let's see....a hotel next to a highway on-ramp, surrounded by property zoned for office/commercial space, and adjacent to the Moorefield Station project property.
    Kind of seems like an okay location to me.
    Van Metre announced this at our HOA Annual Meeting in May. Didn't receive a word of objection from the residents that were there.
     
  5. Lee

    Lee Permanent Vacation

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    Yes but what about the other residents in the other neighborhood closest to this??????
     
  6. mwb2218

    mwb2218 New Member

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    and what neighborhood would that be? Would you be referring to the Richmond American homes about 1 mile away on Croson Lane? If so, I do think they should go tie themselves to a tree, protest, and organize citizen groups so they prevent more tax-generating commercial property from being developed in Loudoun County.

    If you aren't aware, land-use changes occur all the time in any county. If they didn't, nothing would be built and you would be an unemployed architect.
     
  7. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    I say build it as long as they are good good neighbor developer builder friends and it is a win win for the communities and win win for taxes and a win win win for the turtles who cross the greenway and only if the amateur county planners plan it like not amateurs and if there is no flex builder building flex buildings with flexibility and did you guys know that shevco is Cliff who is the HOA President off Broadlands and he lives on a hill????? :D :D :D :D :D

    BTW - Admins, LOVE the new "image" rule! TRULY
     
  8. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    T8, you're a riot!!!!
    What is the new "image" rule? For that matter, what was the old rule?
     
  9. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Well, if they bought so close to COMMERCIALLY zoned property that it would be of concern to them, they should have done their homework.
    Given that this neighborhood is across from Moorefield Station, this li'l ol' hotel won't bother them.
    What they should really be concerned about is that their whole neighborhood is going to be bisected by 2 four lane divided roads.
     
  10. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Can only do 5 images (includes smilies and .imgs) now. I am 100% certain it is known as the "Lee Rule" to the Admins! :D
     
  11. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    just like monopoly! let's hope it's more like Boardwalk than Baltic... lol :)
     
  12. polar8825

    polar8825 Human Propulsion Expert

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    This has my vote for 'post of the year'. Classic....[​IMG]
     
  13. Silence Dogood99

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    Second that vote!
     
  14. dcdavis

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    Lee - again you're wrong. It's not a zoning change. It's a Special Exception. In large PUDs, there is an overarching zoning district, and then certain parcels are further "administered" as other zoning districts. And this land is not zoned for 4 houses per acre - it's office. The same situation applies over at the School Admin building/potential hospital site - if you look at the Zoning Map, it's shown as PD-H3, but it's actually administered as office.
     
  15. Silence Dogood99

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    How dare you question almighty and all-knowing Architect Lee?! He knows EVERYTHING about construction and zoning, and none of us are qualified to comment. I'd be ashamed of myself for even daring to question Lee.

    That said, if Lee really is wrong on this and doesn't know the difference, um, well...
     
  16. Lee

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    Actually I am not wrong DC Davis and Silence and others read what is going where in loudoun county WP this last suday number 15 and they are saying they want to change from 4 residential units to this hotel. Just because Van Metre has it on it's map as commercial it may not be zoned that way at the moment.

    I got in late tonight and man do you all have fun when I am gone. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I am glad to be able to leave you all with something to do on Sunday. ha ha ha :devil2::devil2: I will have to do this more often. :devil2::devil2::devil2:
     
  17. woopity

    woopity cdubs ya know!

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    not sure i agree that it's the "best town center in loudon". landsdowne has more to offer in the way of restaurants...and even has a harris teeter to match. Although..since i live in broadlands..i don't go to either one very often.
     
  18. quailpond06

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    Well, they knew about the planned four lane divided roads before they purchased their homes there (we looked at Vantage Point for awhile), and by continuing to purchase them I believe they already accepted that fate (being bisected).

    Personally, I wish they'd go ahead and finish the road! I'd also like them to connect finish that last bit of Claiborne and the LCP, too! I dunno what's with this area where they build sections of roads and then take forever to connect the last remaining bit...grumble...
     
  19. Lee

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    Well the Brambleton town center is in the middle of nowhere so it is remarkable that they have done as well as they have. There are 3 or four new restaurants to open in the fall including one on each side of the movie theater. Landsdown sitting in a much more developed area should be doing better then it is.

    Brambleton center is at the end of a long park with that connects schools at the other end and urban style town houses over looking leading up to the fountain in front of the theater. The parking garages are one of the key functional design elements. No seas of parking and the garages help in bad weather.

    The center has a long way to go to being finished but it is, and will be even more of a gathing place with wonderful public areas including the park for people to walk and hang out and fairly compact. Brambleton overall is a fairly dense community compared to other puds in the area. But their town center gives brambleton a central idenity just like the town center parks in the good old days where the band would play on fourth of July :happygrin: Brambletons very diverse housing is also another strong point. Soon there will be a golf course. A very innovative and fun and exciting seniors project.

    The developer of Brambleton whose name is Fox lives in the community and you gussed it the theater was named after him.:happygrin: You can see the pride he takes in the community to the smallets details. And there are no surprises coming like a hospital popping up out of nowhere after you already bought and god knows what else in some of the other PUDS in Loudoun. :devil2:

    Anyway if you look at the overall map of Brambleton the Town center at one end and linear park connecting several schools at another end all connect through the middle of the PUD with a long linear park giving easy access to most of the residents. A lot of thought went into planning brambleton. Most opf the PUDs in loudoun are nice but the good neighbor developers of Brambleton took it to another level where the residents get a wonderful separation from the different uses and no future surprises to the residents. :happygrin:
     
  20. Lee

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    Don't hold your breath on these roads being done for 5 or ten more years or longer. Toll bros is in no hurry to finish loudoun county parkway especially with that expensive bridge that has to go over the creek. And Virginias special session has been a disaster so far and looks like to be a loser when they come back in a couple of weeks. So even the few roads the county was hoping to get started will be delayed possibly for years and years. My thought is gas prices are putting the nail into much future growth in Loudoun possibly until metro gets out here.

    Tysons will end up with a lot of new class A business with the revitalization they are planning and metro will go thru there a lot of years before it ever reaches out here.. My builder buddy in Vienna is building 8 multi million dollar custom homes right now in that area all sold. He says people are contacting him like crazy about building from the far out suburbs and lot has to do with gas prices and other factors such as traffic etc.
     

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