Broadlands Hospital

It's just west of Clyde's. Here's a drawing of the proposed hospital layout:

http://www.broadlandsrmc.com/CPM/rendering.gif

 

It is easy to find, just look for the last place in Broadlands where nature is flourishing, where trees are growing naturally. Look for the last pretty place in Broadlands and that's where the hospital will go.

In Loudoun County, anytime you have a question about where proposed construction will be, just look for pretty trees, they will soon be chopped down for construction.

Don't worry, I am sure they will name one of the Hospital access roads something nice like "Tall Elm Drive" just to remind people where the trees used to be.

/cynical sarcasm

 

The Trees used to be where your house stands now.

 

And odds are that HCA will keep a lot more trees than an office park would.

 

What proof do you have on your statement?

 

That is true, go look back at the records. They bought then closed Dominion Hospital, and one other, which I can't remember. It was a part of how they weren't adding capacity to the "zone" or "district" or what ever they call each "region" that they regulate the number of beds. They were "moving them" to a denser population area.

Also with regard to the COPN, it is approved for a region but requires an address for location. The Health commissioner doesn't care if it is on broadlands blvd, or loudoun county blvd, or route 50, they are all in the same region, that is why you can change location without effecting the COPN application.

Also, with regard to AFGM's comment about INOVA "buying" posters / trollers to keep up the fight against BRMC with Broadlands, give me a break.

I live here, have nothing to do with or gain from Inova. I bought before the land in question was sold to HCA. I bought when that parcel of land was still 2 parcels. I still have the map presented to me by the developer which showed the office park forming a U shape around the parcel of land that the developer didn't own. Which in fact today is where the hospital is planned on being located. I believe I have a legitimate claim to say " This isn't what I bought into, this isn't the PLAN, I was presented with, and researched." But those type of comments are shot down as NIMBY. I do believe it is ridiculous to build a hospital so close to another one, I do believe that the county would be better served with it in a different location. I believe if this hospital is approved that within a short time they will come back and ask for a helipad, they have to.

So you can read, I am against it BRMC, but typically don't post here due to the outlandish and typically cruel behavior of posters here. Why submit myself to the continual bashing behavior. Look at how how people of responded to one another, would you say some of the things that have been written here to someone's face? My guess is typically not. Most people have forgotten their manners. Go back and look at my posts, some are about this subject, some are about others, I have been here a long time, but don't post frequently.

 

The other hospital is Northern Virginia Community Hospital in Arlington.

 

Dominion Hospital is still open as well as part of Northern Virginia Hospital.

 

Gator,
I'm with Flynnbus but I'll help you with fact on the Rules and Regs surrounding COPN's in Virginia. I'm a former hospital admin and dealt with them often.

http://www.vdh.state.va.us/OLC/Laws/documents/COPN/COPN regs 2008.pdf

What this board needs is:

1. Valium
2. Alcohol
3. Less emotion
4. More fact
5. A general understand that the hospital will be built in Broadlands whether we like it or not.

 

Forgot this one:

12VAC5-220-250. Amendment to an application.
The applicant shall have the right to amend an application at any time. Any amendment which is made to an application following the public hearing and prior to the issuance of a certificate unless otherwise specified in this chapter shall constitute a new application and shall be subject to the review requirements set forth in Part V of this chapter. If such amendment is made subsequent to the issuance of a certificate of public need, it shall be reviewed in accordance with 12VAC5-220-130.

 

Here's an interesting letter published in Loudoun Independent:


Former Sec. of Health Speaks Out

The final Public Hearing for the Broadlands Regional Medical Center (BRMC) is scheduled for Thursday, November 20, 2008. The Public Hearing is most probably restricted to local land use issues – location of entrances and exits, impacts on water and sewer, compliance with existing local ordinances –because the Commonwealth of Virginia has already ruled on the need for BRMC and that its proposed location in the Ashburn area is the correct one.

You see, Virginia is a “Certificate of Public Need” state. That means that the Commissioner of Health, has the job of deciding whether and where new hospitals will be constructed anywhere in the Commonwealth. In the case of BRMC, the Commissioner has already ruled. In doing so, the Commissioner relied upon an experienced adjudication officer, the staff of the state’s Department of Certificate of Public Need as well as numerous experts to consider construction of Broadlands Regional Medical Center in the Ashburn area. Alternative sites, including the U.S. 50 corridor, were also considered. Public opinion, the views of competing hospitals (they were opposed) and local residents, were all considered by the state, as required by law.

One of the primary determinants for issuing a COPN in Virginia is the density of the area to be served. Another primary determinant is travel time. The Broadlands Regional Medical Center passed both of these criteria with flying colors. It also had the added benefit of redistributing underutilized hospital beds from inside the Beltway to Loudoun County, which consistently ranked among the fastest growing counties in America, and yet had not kept pace with its health care infrastructure. The Ashburn area, specifically, was favored because it was and is the epicenter of the planned and approved population growth in Loudoun County and had good transportation access from all directions. It also was near Dulles Airport, which would make it vital for disaster planning at the airport.
As a result of the more than six year struggle over Broadlands Regional Medical Center, Northern Virginia is getting a reputation for being the poster child for incumbent hospital systems litigating to block issuance or contest renewal of a competitor’s COPN, or to mount behind-the-scenes lobbying efforts directed at thwarting support for a planned project among local public officials.

It is widely understood that Inova has exercised its influence among certain Northern Virginia public officials and rallied local citizens groups to attempt to scuttle the Broadlands project, and Inova has been equally zealous in its pursuit of litigation to stymie the Broadlands project. The Washington Post, Modern Healthcare and the Wall Street Journal, as well as the Federal Trade Commission and Virginia’s Attorney General, have all recently highlighted Inova’s aversion to simply compete on price and quality. It is unfortunate that the future of the Broadlands facility remains uncertain, years after HCA received the Broadlands COPN from the state. New hospitals elsewhere in the Virginia have since received their own COPN and have undergone construction and are nearly ready to open their doors.

In response to these and other concerns, the Virginia General Assembly earlier this year added another important mandatory consideration for the Health Commissioner to consider when evaluating COPN applications, which is whether a new project will introduce institutional competition. The Health Commissioner’s approval of Broadlands Regional Medical Center spoke directly to the need for additional competition for the region’s health care consumers. Loudoun County’s health care consumers and employers who pay so much for health care coverage will be the real beneficiaries once Broadlands is built.

The new members of the Planning Commission and Board of Supervisors should be applauded for their thoroughness in researching the mandatory considerations the Health Commissioner factored into the approval of the COPN for BRMC and its proposed location in Ashburn. It is vital to understand that the Health Commissioner’s decision to issue the COPN was not done in a vacuum and that the Commissioner did, in fact, consider many of the arguments Inova is now making to the County as justification for denying HCA’s applications. The Commissioner simply disagreed and issued the COPN over Inova’s objections, a decision Inova subsequently has litigated for years after the final COPN ruling. The zoning applications to implement the Commissioner’s award of a COPN for BRMC are not an appropriate forum for revisiting that decision.

Loudoun County should approve Broadlands Regional Medical Center’s land use application. The state believes that Loudoun County needs this project, and so do thousands of resident throughout the region.

Lou Rossier
Former Virginia Secretary of Health and Human Resources 2001-2002

 

It's like Groundhog Day in here... we keep reliving it, over and over and over again.

 

Ain't dat da truth!

 

For those concerned about the "urbanization" of the area, the extension of the Metro Line will forever chance the look and character of eastern Loudoun.......far, far more than the building of a hospital ever could.
If you have any doubts or are wondering, look up the develoment plans of Moorefield Station and Loudoun Station.

 

I think we killed the thread!

 

it's just dormant... it will rise again... they should call it the Phoenix Hospital when it is built.

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by cobymom
You do realize that they closed two hospitals to justify the COPN for BRMC?

It is actually in their COPN and was brought up at the hearings in front of the HSA of Northern VA. They are closing hospitals in Arlington and Falls Church to "transfer" the beds to Loudoun. Apparently they were not making enough money serving the residents in the inner suburbs.

 

The COPN is negotiated with and approved by the State. Richmond decides how many beds can go where. A sponsor like HCA can't do anything without Richmond's COPN. The economic situation, age of hospitals, and the services offered by Arlington and Falls Church were all factors in Richmond deciding the beds were needed for BRMC. You can't hang this on HCA.