Broadlands Medical Facility

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Then you don't read all the posts. I've outlined it before. All three provide a needed service that all claim to be safe. So if you want the hospital in your backyard the prison and nuke should be ok, right?

 

Then you don't read all the posts. I've outlined it before. All three provide a needed service that all claim to be safe. So if you want the hospital in your backyard the prison and nuke should be ok, right?
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I agree that prisons are safe -- but the low-paying jobs that a prison would attract would not be good for the area. This, I would nix the prison.

While a "nucular" plant may be safe, we are dealing with a different degrees of risk when comparing a nuke to a hospital. The risks associated with a hospital do not equate to potential nuclear devastation. While the risk of both may be, e.g., two percent, that two percent is on a much bigger number in the case of a nuke plant. In other words, there is a greater downside of a two percent risk on one billion dollars than there is with a two percent risk on $100,000. In my opinion, the nuke plant is the billion and the hospital is the $100,000. Of course, this is just an example. But I don't see how anyone can compare a nuke plant to a hospital and be able to soundly conclude that they are the same or that one is less risky than the other (of course, if there are any insurance company actuaries on the forum, please give us an estimate).

 

I didn't say they had the same degree of risk just that they are similar in that they can claim studies to show safety numbers and it can refute the Anti-NIMBY defense b/c if you don't want the Prison or Nuke then you too are NIMBY.

The hospital would not be a risk at except for the mental ward.

 

I've read the posts, and the additional clarifications offered here. I still don't see the relevance.

If you want to debate an office complex (which has been discussed) vs. the Hospital, that makes sense. It is an alternative. In my wildest dreams, I couldn't imagine a Nuke Plant or a Prison being considered for this piece of property.

I agree that prisons are safe -- but the low-paying jobs that a prison would attract would not be good for the area. This, I would nix the prison.

While a "nucular" plant may be safe, we are dealing with a different degrees of risk when comparing a nuke to a hospital. The risks associated with a hospital do not equate to potential nuclear devastation. While the risk of both may be, e.g., two percent, that two percent is on a much bigger number in the case of a nuke plant. In other words, there is a greater downside of a two percent risk on one billion dollars than there is with a two percent risk on $100,000. In my opinion, the nuke plant is the billion and the hospital is the $100,000. Of course, this is just an example. But I don't see how anyone can compare a nuke plant to a hospital and be able to soundly conclude that they are the same or that one is less risky than the other (of course, if there are any insurance company actuaries on the forum, please give us an estimate).


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I'm through trying to explain it b/c you'll stick to the NIMBY is bad defense. You wont address points and you resort to misdirection which is a typical tactic of someone who is closed minded. I'm dropping this thread and redirecting to other things. If the hospital is built w/ the Mental as is and something happens we'll take it up then.

 

I'm through trying to explain it b/c you'll stick to the NIMBY is bad defense. You wont address points and you resort to misdirection which is a typical tactic of someone who is closed minded. I'm dropping this thread and redirecting to other things. If the hospital is built w/ the Mental as is and something happens we'll take it up then.
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That's fine. But I didn't redirect anything. Someone else did, when they compared the hospital to a nuke and prison.

 

It wasn't directed to you Wick and you're wrong. It wasn't a redirection it was a valid point concerning AFGMs redirection using NIMBYism as an excuse which if you can't see it, fine. But you already showed you're Pro Nimby with your earlier post where you would nix the prison so please spare me your offhanded barb. You and AFGM have yet to come up with anything valid and I'm done with this thread.

 

I really don't think all the debate in the world will change what's going on behind the scenes. Based on recent decisions by the Richmond puppets (who might as well be on another planet), this thing is on the fast track right down our throats. It doesn't matter what we, on the local level say about it, or the Greenway. Money talks, everyone else walks. The electorate, and our elected officials, are being run over.

 

One person's valid point is another person's garbage. Now who's close-minded?

 

You can express your point w/o making it a veiled zinger. I've been open and in this thread I have thought about differing views and modified my position upon reflection. It is not I who have resorted to shutting down this thread by deflection. I try to have an open dialog but it doesn't work when the opposing side can't offer up valid points.

 

Ok, "Mr. Validity".

Let me get this straight:

1. You'll accept a hospital in Broadlands if it doesn't have a psych wing.

2. You will accept a hospital with a psych wing if it is two miles away.

3. One has no credibility in this debate, unless they have been born in Virginia and have spent your entire life here.

4. Hospitals are like nuclear plants and prisons.

5. NIMBY is a valid arguement, but doesn't take away from your view.

I can understand how you've become frustrated with this thread if these points are the basis for your debate. None of this has anything to do with re-direction, it is directly related to our previous posts.

Maybe we should agree we've said our "piece" on this portion of the discussion, and move to other areas of the debate or other issues.

 

Haha. You have to resort to attacking my typos, lol. You are a "piece" of work. Really. Spin it as much as you want. You still don't live here and your opinion is not as valid as someone who does. Where is that ignore poster feature? I've really restrained myself from attacking you AFGM. The last time I got banned. I'm reaching my limit so I'm not responding to you anymore.

 

No need to go away mad. As suggested, let's move on, we've done what we can on this topic. I enjoy the dialog.

 

I'm not mad. If you enjoy sparring and are intentionally trying to bait me it's a whole different thing than being overtly insulting. Which is it? If you want to spar, I need a break, you are giving me a good work out. If it was your intention to get a dig in on me then I'm done.

 

Sorry I should not ask question! I comfuse because I think Broadland survey end this discusion. That not happen. Now I read a lot old posts and see people debate hospital long time. It seem like people have very many emotion on this but it seem simpel that hospital is close enough and no need for another here but I see Broadland ban people who not support hospital so i hope not happen me.

 

Dang.Yu.Hyung-
Broadlands does not ban those that oppose the hospital. Only those that repeatedly violate the rules, and, in one case, lie about it and are caught.
If you read all the hospital threads, you will see many that oppose it.

 

Dang.Yu.Hyung

You're right, the survey should have been the end of it. I've stopped posting because it's pointless. I spend my valuable time writing letters to those that can direct the placement of a hospital to a more appropriate location. HCACliff and the HOA have made up their minds and have labeled those against the hospital as a vocal minority. You should, however, contact the Board of Supervisors - specifically Stephen Snow, Dulles District Supervisor, and let them know that you are a Broadlands resident and against the hospital.

 

Here is Steve Snow's email for your follow-up ssnow@loudoun.gov

 

Received a letter from a lawyer yesterday via registered mail, inviting me to a hearing on July 19th. I'll be there.

M.

 

Why should the survey have been the end of it? As I recall, the result of the survey was that no clear consensus exsited either way. I have also stopped posting here, and I have also instead spent my time advocating for placement of the hospital where it belongs... here in Broadlands.