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Late February HOA dues

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by Rysa915, Feb 25, 2010.

  1. Rysa915

    Rysa915 New Member

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    Did anyone else get a late charge notice from Armstrong for their February HOA dues? I dropped the payment off at the post office on Feb. 4, but it was not processed at the lockbox until Feb. 16...12 days later. I know we had some snowfall, but 12 days to go to Philadelphia seems a little ridiculous. :mad:
     
  2. msflynn

    msflynn New Member

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    If you dropped it the 4th with snow on the way how did you expect it to get there before the 10th? It is late as of the 10th. So with a record blizzard and the federal government closed for snow the 8th, 9th 10th and 11th plus the 15th being a federal holiday I think it made it quickly in just 2 days.

    Staci
     
  3. kevinq

    kevinq Member

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    The Federal Government closed for 4 days, but I don't think the same four days applied to the Postal Service.
     
  4. msflynn

    msflynn New Member

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    But a lot of businesses did as did the airports which is how the USPS moves a lot of their mail. I do know the local post office was closed Monday the 8th and with limited services on the 9th.
    So even if you add back in the 10th and 11th the payment is already late.

    Staci
     
  5. jwf

    jwf Well-Known Member

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    Legally speaking, the post office post mark represents the date of acceptance of the payment. The post office is acting as a defacto agent of the HOA by definition if the HOA accepts payment via the US Mail. This is why you can put your tax return in the mail on midnight April 15 and still not be late.

    So if you can prove the post mark then you should have the charge removed.
     
  6. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    Legal by whom? Accepting something by the post mark date is not some requirement.

    Try pulling that with all your other bill collectors - that's why they say on the statements please allow time for MAILING - not 'get to the post office by...'

    The IRS probably goes by the postmark because they couldn't process all the mail to know even when they did receive something. Why build and pay for a process when the legal post office does it for you already.

    Bill collectors don't have to worry about such huge spikes.

    Here's at least one reference for you
    http://www.justaskasa.com/wp/?p=693

    The due date is the 1st anyways... this wasn't even mailed until half way through the grace period. Are we surprised a late fee was possible?
     
  7. beahmer

    beahmer Member

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    Why would you drop off a payment anyway? Online Baking - I havent paid a bill with a check in years... Why pay the post office to do what the bank will do for free!
     
  8. mamatothree

    mamatothree New Member

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    Or sign up for automatic debit. It's free and you will never pay a late fee as long as there are sufficient funds in your account. The form is in the Feb newsletter on page 14, the March letter on page 12 or print a copy from the website:

    http://www.broadlandshoa.org/fileshare/files/108/auto_pay_application.pdf
     
  9. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    And 'officially' the payment is due on the 1st - you get until the 10th before it's considered 'late', for the very reasons discussed above.

    Folks can save themselves a lot of aggravation and risk by planning on getting it in by the 1st, which is the actual due date.
     
  10. boomertsfx

    boomertsfx Booyakasha!

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    I like to be in control and manage all my payments from one place -- my online banking (BoA) -- that's why I don't do direct debit.... I just wish Armstrong supported electronic transfer so my online banking wouldn't have to send a physical check. Armstrong is my only payee that doesn't support electronic payments (1-2 business day delivery vs 5 day on most online banking sites). You would think in this day and age this shouldn't be a hard thing to implement, considering they can already do automatic debit.
     
  11. qzpmal

    qzpmal New Member

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    I am lucky. I have the best of both worlds. For those institutions who can handle electronic payment acceptance, my bank will connect with them. For those who do not, my bank will cut and mail a check for me. Haven't written a check in years either.
     
  12. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    I think his comment was about the lead-time... the bank will get the money there either way.. it's just an issue of what lead-time you must give the bank.

    For these payments, they are so small I schedule them so far in advance it doesn't bother me either way.
     
  13. REA3Fan

    REA3Fan New Member

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    Armstrong will never support online bill payment (other than auto debit), because then they would loose the astronomical amount of late fees that they collect because they are the only company that you cannot pay online as you go through your monthly bills. Either they control when it comes out of your account or snail mail it is. So frustrating but I'm sure it helps pay for the large brick building they are located at in Farifax.
     
  14. GeauxTigers

    GeauxTigers Member

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    I pay mine via an automatic recurring bill pay. Granted my bank still has to mail a check to Armstrong, but I don't have to feel the pain of that.
     
  15. gunzour

    gunzour "Living on the Edge"

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    I pay it via online bill pay as well. Whether Armstrong supports it or not shouldn't really matter -- my bank will mail the check to them and still guarantees on time payment.
     
  16. esubscribe

    esubscribe Gadget Freak!

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    Haven't had an issue with Armstrong so far...but has the HOA board looked into alternatives to Armstrong or spoken with Armstrong to support Online Bill payment?

    Is Armstrong not interested becauase they will lose revenue or is it too expensive to implement? Just wondering...that's all ?!?
     
  17. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Armstrong does not get the money from late fees. The HOA does.
     
  18. msflynn

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    It becomes very complicated because of the charges incurred per transaction. It would cause us the HOA to raise everyone's rates to cover the possibility of added fees.

    Staci
     
  19. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    I think the assumption is that a transaction fee on a electronic payment should be cheaper then a processed mailing. But dunno...
     

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