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SWHOA annual meeting and elections rescheduled for Jan 16th

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by cogs, Dec 19, 2013.

  1. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    I sit on the HOA Mod-Sub Committee, and as such, I have been approached by a few people about running for the SWHOA...
    NO :censored: WAY!!!! Too much damn drama and pettiness!
     
  2. cogs

    cogs Well-Known Member

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    All the more reason to run, to bring an end to drama and pettiness. I believe with 2-3 new faces on the board would bring a change in a very short time.
     
  3. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    I have young children, I DON'T need older ones.
     
  4. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    Drama and pettiness brought on by people.. not the role itself. Only way to end it is to get rid of the source of the problem.
     
  5. cogs

    cogs Well-Known Member

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    True. The problem with the present board is, no director asks any questions and there are hardly any debates. For example, when the President Cotti was pitching for the Acceleration of Payments, no one debated. Tom Wade was the only person mildly resisting. When it came to proposing the motion, Hines said he did not know much and deferred to Makaily, who in turn deferred it back to Hines. It took a few minutes of selling the idea and Hines moved to adopt the resolution and everyone raised their right hands.

    Not one person asked what was the need for the motion or how it would impact the members who are in tough financial situations. I guess part of the problem with SWHOA is the inexperience of the board members. I believe their sole source of information is the President of the Board. Once they hear a debate in the meetings, I am sure some of them would use their judgement to decide how to vote.

    SWHOA board meetings are diametrically opposite to BHOA meetings. I attended couple of BHOA meetings and I am happy on how the discuss the motions before voting on them.
     
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  6. Capricorn1964

    Capricorn1964 Well-Known Member

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    COGS, only way people can FULLY understand what the problems are and what needs to be done is if someone printed off a few thousand flyers then drove around the community to drop them off in the mailboxes or go to door to door to explain what is going on. Until that happens, status quo will be continuing with the current board. Nothing will change UNTIL a candidate for the board gets off their duff and go door-to-door to communicate with the members of SWHOA community. I am VERY sure that the majority of the community doesn't know what is really going on and probably doesn't open their SWHOA Mailings either. Apathy is the KEY problem in this community.

    If you want change, then you have to act like a politician and get out there to campaign for change. Doing it alone on this forum isn't going to help effect change because the BULK of the membership probably don't use this forum and probably don't have time to read through all the threads, etc. Look at it this way, T8erman said the reason why people won't run is because of the "drama and pettiness" crap. If you really want change, then get off this forum and go door to door. In fact, I haven't seen ANY candidate for the board to reach out to me to explain why they are running for the board.

    The current board is probably going to stay unchanged until they get TIRED of working on the board or they move out of the neighborhood. There really is NOT much for them to work on except the OB Lawsuit in my mind. BHOA has WAY more business to work with --its more challenging and interesting. I have worked on a HOA before in the past and that was a challenging job because there was a DIVERSITY of business to work with. With SWHOA, its like having only one thing...OB. That's it other than creating by-laws and working with lawyers on the OB stuff and the management company. What other contracts do they really work on other than with the OB / lawyer / management company? Its pretty straightforward work.
     
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  7. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Article XII of the Southern Walk Bylaws states how they can be changed. It states: "...these Bylaws may also be amended by a Majority Vote of the Board of Directors: provided, however, that the proposed amendment has been inserted in the notice of the meeting. The Board of Directors shall send any amendment to the members within thirty days after adoption."

    So, for the Board to have done this, they were required to sent a notice of the proposed change in the advertisement for the meeting where it would be adopted. They are then required to notify all members within 30 days after adoption.
    I'm going to take a wild guess that NONE of that happened.
    But I could be wrong.
    But I don't think so.
     
  8. kevinq

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    The statement was included on the blank Nominating Petition/Candidate Profile Sheet, which I don't recall seeing within the first mailing. One of the three completed Candidate Profile Sheets used the form with the statement, while two candidates' form did not have the statement. No completed Candidate Profile Sheets were included in the first mailing (but three candidates were on the proxy).
     
  9. kevinq

    kevinq Member

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    The Notice of Rescheduled 2013 Annual Meeting also states that the Nominating Petition/Candidate Profile Sheets are available at www.swhoa.net in the documents section. I went to the site and didn't see a documents section. In any case, it looks like the site was last updated in 2011.
     
  10. Capricorn1964

    Capricorn1964 Well-Known Member

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    Kevinq- You are right about the last update. I was surprised myself that such a website does exist even though it hasn't been used for the last two years. I was thinking to myself that they could have saved $$$ by utilizing the website all the while using a secure password for that site so that no one outside of SWHOA community could go inside for documents/news/blog/etc. Would be nice to have documents/minutes of meetings to be posted there.

    Its a shame that the website isn't being utilized any further. Not sure if they are still using FB for communication purposes although they have LOCKED it but FB company probably still can review the group and still can read their documents and such. (So can NSA too.) So I don't understand why they won't use the SWHOA.NET website anymore. Perhaps they are worried that BHOA/Management Company/OB can get access to the documents? Not sure if they are still using the FB Page for communication purposes or have they abandoned that as well?
     
  11. kevinq

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    It is ironic that the SWHOA board is fighting with our cable provider because they are not keeping up with the advances in technology (and other factors, too) and the board's most advanced use of technology is an infrequent email blast to less than 1/3 of the homeowners and limited use of Facebook.
     
  12. Charlie

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    I'm just wondering if anyone else has read the civil complaint that Shashi filed against the SWHOA earlier this week. I jumped on here expecting to hear some discussion of it, so was surprised that it hadn't been mentioned. (I don't have a Facebook account, so haven't been following the discussion there - and frankly, even if I had an account, I object strongly to using that as the primary means of disseminating information about an HOA.) I've been quietly following this situation for a few months - and have been extremely troubled by what I've seen - and having now read the complaint, I'm really struggling to see how the SWHOA is going to have any legitimate defense to the claims he's made.

    Under the circumstances, I wouldn't expect Shashi to continue posting here, but I was a little surprised to not see any mention of it by others. Of course, I also want to make sure that others who (like me) aren't part of the FB group are made aware of this.
     
  13. Zeratul

    Zeratul Well-Known Member

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    Yea I have read the complaint and think it is just sad that it has come to this. There are discussions in the Facebook group and his complaint has been posted there for all to read. The Board is already trying to defend and justify their actions but for now, it is impossible to get to the bottom of any of this. I think Shashi has some legitimate complaints and some of the actions of the Board should be questioned. I hate the fact that we have to do this is a court but I see no other alternative....given the actions that have happened and the financial impacts this has created for Shashi....

    The meeting with happen tomorrow night but there will be no voting and this will not be the required Annual meeting.
     
  14. JJB

    JJB Active Member

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    I do not have a facebook account so I do not have access to all of that drama. I have not seen the filing, but it appears he asked for and got an injunction against the election taking place at this time. Is this correct?
     
  15. Capricorn1964

    Capricorn1964 Well-Known Member

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    Zeratul,

    How do you know that there will be no voting tomorrow?
     
  16. Capricorn1964

    Capricorn1964 Well-Known Member

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    This is going to hurt home sales within the SWHOA community when prospective homebuyers review the HOA pre-sale documents and find out about all the legal wrangling going on and not wanting to take the risks of moving in.... SIGH.
     
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  17. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Based on the SW Facebook page, SWHOA is going to try to have the injunction lifted tomorrow AM.
     
  18. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    Any links to this civil complaint?
     
  19. Capricorn1964

    Capricorn1964 Well-Known Member

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    T8erman, what chances of success will SWHOA have with the lifting of injunction?
     
  20. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    My best GUESS would be 50/50. I read the injunction and some of it seems like a he said/she said scenario.
     

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