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Gas prices

Discussion in 'General Chat Forum' started by Dutchml, Aug 31, 2005.

  1. Skins fan

    Skins fan Tequila fan (100% agave)

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    It is hard to believe what the people of Louisiana and Mississippi
    are going through right now. The stories are heartbreaking.
    The cost of gas seems like a small issue in comparison to the
    loss and suffering.

    It usually takes a crisis for people to change behaviour.
    The gas situation is going to get worse before it gets better.
    http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/31/news/gas_prices/index.htm
    Bush should loudly ask all of us to make sacrafices to get
    through this crisis. We also need to start thinking long
    term regarding fuel sources and consumption.

    This is a perfect time for all of us to make do what we can to
    reduce consumption. Stay home for Labor Day instead of driving
    somewhere. Walk or bike up to school to meet your kids. Car pool
    to work or whatever you can do to reduce your consumption of gas.
    Driving habits, tire pressure and engine maintenance also can
    help to conserve fuel.

    We decided not to go out of town this weekend and are going to do
    whatever we can to cut down on travel. It will be inconvenient but
    if each of us makes an effort to cut our fuel usage, it will have
    a positive impact on gas prices. I hope others will also take steps
    to do what they can to reduce their consumption.
     
  2. snoopy

    snoopy Senior Member

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    Is $3.21 factoring in the "great" safeway discount .. haaahaaa ... Perhaps it could be as "low" as $3.16 if you have your discount card .... GO SAFEWAY !! :D Glad SAFEWAY Gas provides us with an alternative choice to big greedy gas companies ... [:p]
     
  3. neilz

    neilz New Member

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    I would take another look at the gas prices when the delivery truck shows up at the Exxon or the Mobil. As soon as that truck arrives, the prices go up.



    Neil Z.
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  4. Lee

    Lee Permanent Vacation

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    For some reason gas is always quite a bit cheaper in woodbridge but of course not practical to fill up there when we live out here. Just curious why it is so much cheaper.

    As I have said before I have given up driving my suv and drive a car that is much better on gas, even though I can afford to but as said above, it is about all of us, and we need to help each other the best we can.

    Boy those suv's sure look big when you are in a much smaller car. :)


    Lee J Buividas
     
  5. christinaandrob

    christinaandrob New Member

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    Just drove past the Sunoco on Waxpool and the premium is up to $3.35. I paid $2.95 for it yesterday. I better dust off my bike or my rollerblades! ;)
     
  6. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    Not true. I watched Exxon increase their price the other day. Manager was in there programming the change. No truck around. He said, he had just gotten off a concall where new prices were announced and he was told to put it in effect.

     
  7. agnesk

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    Okay, a correction to my earlier post:

    The station is a Sunoco, not an Exxon.

    The gas is now $3.15 for regular unleaded as of 4:20 this afternoon. A jump of $.16 in two hours. :(
     
  8. neilz

    neilz New Member

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    Oh good grief !!
    [V]

    Neil Z.
    Resident since 1999
     
  9. brim

    brim Member

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    wow...I expected gas to be way more expensive up there than here in Knoxville. This is what I saw on the way back from the gym:

    3.19/.29/.39

    :(
     
  10. Dawne

    Dawne HOA Sec/Treas, Tech Comm

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    I got gas at Safeway on Monday for $2.66...drive by today was $3.31...that's gotta be the largest 4 day hike in history.

    I'm just going to drive less. The commuter bus to DC at $5 each way is pretty darn reasonable now. However, I expect if the gas prices remain high, they'll be upping the cost of the bus tickets...unfortunately, my MetroChek probably won't go up...



    Dawne
     
  11. brim

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    3.29/39/49 this AM here. :(
     
  12. beergutvt

    beergutvt New Member

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    Try the gas station in South riding. I believe is a Sunco. It always seems to be 10-15 cents cheaper then anything in the Ashburn area
     
  13. pv

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  14. snoopy

    snoopy Senior Member

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    pv, thanks for this link ..very informative ... Safeway (@Broadland center) is the most expensive .. [xx(]
     
  15. brim

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    Safeway can charge more because they offer that stupid discount if you buy groceries (forgot how much it is). So, its an incentive to do your shopping in there to get that little discount (if you're weak minded, that is).
     
  16. vweisenburg

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    Wow. Angry and ignorant of the law is not way to go through life. Let me help you out of your misguided assignment of blame.

    The military is made of 3 components. Active duty, Reserves, and National Guard. The President has direct control over the Active and Reserve components and can place Guard units into "Federal" status. When not in "Federal" status guard units are under the control of the Governor of the State (all Army and Air National Guard Units in Louisiana are under control of the Governor unless previously called to duty by the president). Only the Governor of Louisiana can authorize the activation and deployment of Guard units in the state. Additonally the State is the only authority that can request assistance from other military assets (execpt in extremely rare cases in which the President could sign an Excutive order to authorize deployments).

    Prior to the hurricane the ONLY Government official that could request and authorize the use of Guard and other military personell to assist in evacuations was the Governor of Louisiana.

    Second, the military mobilized resources and had them available within hours of the flooding beginning in New Orleans. What they were waiting for was the request of the State officials. Yes it is tragic that the response seems to have been slow and chaotic. However, how is it the presidents fault that the Governor of Lousisiana failed to use the resources she had available to her prior or immediately after the hurricane? What about the blame for the state and local officials that decided building a levee system strong enough the resist a CAT 5 hurricane was too expensive and built the majority only to resist a CAT 3? No one got this right and everyone should share in some of the blame. Federal officials, state and local, and the thugs and hoodlums who have spent the last 3 days turning Orleans into Fallujah.
     
  17. Pats_fan

    Pats_fan Former Resident

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    Good points, vweisenburg, but you are ignoring the not-so-insignificant fact that 40+ % of the National Guard units in Louisiana and Mississippi are unavailable because of Iraq duty. Can't blame the state and local officials for that one. I bet an extra 7,000 National Guard troops would go a long way towards stemming the lawlessness in New Orleans right now.
     
  18. vweisenburg

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    I could agree with your statement if the problems were caused by the lack of troops rather than the failure to use the ones that were available prior to the hurricane or to request for other military assets immediately after. But it wasn't until late yesterday that the Governoor of Lousiana deputized the Guard troops that were already deployed or were in route. Until then they were not allowed to operate as law enforcement. Effectively they could do very little but watch (and believe you me there are quite a few that were frustrated that they could not help the NO police). As of today there should be more than 7k+ Guard troops deployed in and around the city, and estimates are that about 30k will be deployed in the Gulf region by the end of next week.

    My point being is that the deployment of troops in Iraq has nothing to do with the ability of the military to respond to the crisis. Sheer stupid bueracracy has more to do with the chaos than anything. Arguing over who did what and when isn't going to help anyone. It breaks my heart to see the destruction and desperation this tragedy has and continues to cause. I can tell you that the Army is doing everything possible to provide assitance (my unit had a call for volunteers to provide technical and humanitarian assistance and we have had 5x the number of people volunteer than we have positions to fill in the relief effort).
     
  19. beergutvt

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    Well at least we have one person who knows something about how the govt works. Even if your numbers are correct all the state had to do was ask. They didnt. There are plenty of NGs from other states that I am sure Governers would have sent in. They dont need the Pres permission for that. The majority of the blame has to fall on the state. Yes there should also be blame put on the FED, but state has to take the cake on this one.
     
  20. vweisenburg

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    From cnn.com

    "One displaced resident at the Louisiana Superdome issued a warning to authorities who may be headed to the stadium, where up to 30,000 people sought refuge after Monday's Hurricane Katrina and now await evacuation to Texas by bus.

    "Please don't send the National Guard," Raymond Cooper told CNN by telephone. "Send someone with a bullhorn outside the place that can talk to these people first."

    He described scenes of lawlessness and desperation, with people simply dragging corpses into corners.

    "They have quite a few people running around here with guns," he said. "You got these young teenage boys running around up here raping these girls."

    Elsewhere, groups of armed men wandered the streets, buildings smoldered and people picked through stores for what they could find.

    Charity Hospital, one of several facilities attempting to evacuate patients, was forced to halt the effort after coming under sniper fire."


    and from the same article

    Blanco said Thursday she has requested the mobilization of 40,000 National Guard troops to restore order and assist in relief efforts.

    Thursday. Not Sunday, not Monday, etc.. So like I said. There is enough blame to go around. Let's focus on helping the survivors. I for one don't need to see millions of tax dollars spent on Congressional hearings on who should have done what and when. It doesn't matter now. Let's make sure every dollar is spent to save everyone possible and to rebuild their lives.
     

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