See ya later, Dick!

And I couldn't be happier.

Hopefully Poisson will take office and represent the community's issues, and not his personal agenda.

Robzilla
"Whoa no. There goes Tokyo."

 

I didn't realize until I looked it up on Monday night that Southern Walk is in a different state delegate district. Unfortunately, the folks in the western part of the district (in Prince Wm Co.?) reelected our own distracted delegate.

Pam D.

 

Glory hallelujah!!

 

Yes it's too bad that "Sideshow Bob" Marshall got re-elected by the southern part of the 13th district. Bruce Roemmelt did win the Eagle Ridge precinct, as well as Loudoun County overall. Maybe someone will take up the cause of redistricting, since it's a ridiculously gerrymandered district. Bruce also gained 7% over Bob's last opponent, so maybe next time...

As for Poisson's win, I live in the 32nd district myself, so all I can say is YESSSS!!!

--Joy

 

Here are the final results:


The numbers are listed in this order:

R H BLACK (R)
D E POISSON (D)
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Votes Cast


Central Absentee Precinct ( C013)
534 48.5%
566 51.4%
2 0.2%
1,102

Sanders Corner (0101)
554 52.0%
510 47.9%
1 0.1%
1,065

Ashburn Farm (0102)
721 53.0%
637 46.8%
2 0.1%
1,360

Hillside (0105)
567 46.4%
656 53.6%
0 0.00%
1,223

Riverbend (0207)
578 43.8%
741 56.1%
2 0.2%
1,321

Algonkian (0208)
508 46.8%
576 53.0%
2 0.2%
1,086

Potomac Falls (0209)
405 42.3%
551 57.5%
2 0.2%
958

Cascades (0210)
407 39.4%
625 60.5%
1 0.1%
1,033

Sugarland North (0604)
703 49.1%
725 50.7%
3 0.2%
1,431

Sugarland South (0605)
461 47.0%
520 53.0%
0 0.00%
981

Seneca (0606)
390 47.1%
437 52.8%
1 0.1%
828

Lowes Island (0607)
907 48.4%
965 51.5%
1 0.1%
1,873

Mirror Ridge (0608)
304 39.9%
458 60.1%
0 0.00%
762

Stone Bridge (0808)
534 46.2%
622 53.8%
1 0.1%
1,157

Russell Branch (0809)
467 47.0%
525 52.8%
2 0.2%
994

Cedar Lane (0810)
416 46.5%
476 53.2%
2 0.2%
894

Dominion (0811)
504 48.9%
524 50.9%
2 0.2%
1,030

Farmwell Station (0812)
588 49.3%
604 50.7%
0 0.00%
1,192

Seldens Landing (0813)
853 43.4%
1,110 56.4%
4 0.2%
1,967

Newton-Lee (0814)
629 49.6%
640 50.4%
0 0.00%
1,269

Locality Totals
11,030 46.88%
12,468 53.00%
28 0.12%
23,526

20 of 20 precincts reporting


The only places he carried was Sander's Corners and Ashburn Farm. The only thing I can tell was that the GOP had a good turn out the GOP vote campaign there, it was the only two that he and Kilgore won in the district.

Shoot .. he lost Cascades by 218 votes, and doesn't he live there ?? The best quote I saw was in the Post: Black was saying it was due to the fact that the voters are dissatisfied with the GOP.

My comeback would have been, if that were the case, then why did other GOP candidates win ?? I think that alot of the Northern Virginia voters are seeing that some of the candidates are too far right for where they want to be. Look at the race in Fairfax, with the Democrat beating the Republican, with the former GOP delegate supporting the Democrat !!

But it also confirmed the predictions before the election that only 40% of the voters would turn out, compared to the 70% that turned out for the Presidential Election.

The problem in that is, the state and local elections are the ones that can affect you the most, in state and local taxes, laws and zonings.






Neil Z.
Resident since 1999

 

If you want more stats about the Virginia election results, check out
http://sbe.virginiainteractive.org/

You can drill down on specific localities to get results for other districts and localities.

 

Neil,

You are right (mostly). Having run for election here as well as running and working in state/local campaigns, there is a clear shift if the focus of the voters in Loudoun (especially the east). Many of us are what I call "hybrid" Republicans for whom in some cases the party is not conservative enough (border security, punishment of child sex abusers, tax policy) and is just plain stupid on other issues (Internet filters for example). The days of getting our votes simply by having the (R) beside your name on the ballot are over.

If you are running for a state or local office tell me how you will solve my local issues. Don't lecture me on how evil pronography is when you aren't addressing the issue of repeat child sexual predators (or aren't even willing to prosecute them in some cases). You really want to protect my kids (boy howdy I am glad those Internet filters are on in the library. I sure can sleep better now) then support the death penalty for sex crimes against children. Period.

And stop giving us mealy mouthed excuses as to why you haven't changed (or at least tried everything possible) the funding formulas in Richmond to give NoVa a larger share of the tax dollars we send downstate.

Ok rant over. I to was glad to see that Dick Black lost. Not because I think Poisson represents my issues, but becuase Black was a disgrace to real conservatives. Kilgore just ran a monumentally stupid campaign. You don't go negative when you have a double-digit lead in the polls late in the race, especially if the voters have no idea what the hell you are really for. I think he would've won if he just had not run any ads the last month or so, but he sounded like the national Democrats (attack and offer no alternative solution).

 

Rep Black is my fellow Lowes Island local, which is part of Cascades, but a separate voting district.

I bid him fare thee well. Honorable guy and I salute him as a vet, but clearly lacking focus in local matters and too fixated (some say obsessed) on his own private adgenda, particularly abortion. Today's exit interview in the Times Mirror is particularly telling, he pretty much admits what he was probably reluctant to publicly say before the election.

 

From Loudoun Times Mirror

http://tinyurl.com/au5l7

"Black spoke of the causes he championed, including his support for gun rights and his consistent opposition to higher taxes. But he emphasized most strongly his crusade against abortion. “America is going to rise or fall on this single issue -- whether we view children as human beings or disposable objects,” he said. ”With my dying breath, I will oppose abortion.”

 

Honorable?? Where have you been!

 

He has been a neigbor for almost seven years and I've met him several times. Yes, I feel he is a honorable guy. That does not necessarily make him a good state rep of course, nor did it ever make me vote for him.

 

From the http://blackout2005.com/ website: "Still extreme. Still ineffective. No longer our problem. Dick Black." Something tells me, though, we haven't heard the last from this guy.

 

VW-
I don't think hybrid republicans were the problem. I think it was simply more liberals moving out here from the traditionally liberal areas nearer DC. And I disagree that Dick Black is a "disgrace to real conservatives." I think he was a committed champion of the causes "real conservatives" believe in. As for him being an honorable guy, I think he is. His quote above only reinforces that in my mind. Those who hate Dick Black do so because of his views on abortion, plain and simple. People can mock him if they'd like, but I think (and I don't know him personally) that he truly believes, as millions of Americans do, that abortion is a terrible human rights violation. Agree or disagree, I think it's a position worthy of respect.

And I wouldn't count him out just yet. As President Nixon once said, "Defeat is never fatal unless you give up." I don't think he, or any other conservatives around here intend to give up.

 

The real issue here in Eastern Loudoun is Gridlock and growth without the infastructure first to support it. Any candidate who speaks of solutions is going to win. Black was part of the problem not the solution. He had many years to help and he failed. As far as abortion, that should be left out of politics as religion should be also. Politics is not for ones personal agenda unless it benefits the majority without.

Loudoun is becoming a model of what not to do instead of the model of how to grow. I think this last election is a wake up call of what the residents expect from our politicians and goverment. Abortion is a silly thing for politicians to get involved in when we have very pressing issues that are not being addressed fast enough such as transportation and schools.

Lee J Buividas

 

If you truly think that is why he was voted out, then you really haven't been talking to alot of people in his district.

He continually used the 'big lie' when he campaigned. "I brought the bucks that is doing Rt 28 ..." FWIW ... the Rt 28 Tax District was setup back in the late 80's long before he even ran for School Board. All he did was sign on to bills that enabled the state to pay more of the cost.

In 7 years, while the other Loudoun representatives and state senators were trying to bring together a coalition of NoVA representatives to bring some needed transportation funds, he continually failed to join this coalition. The chairman of the Education Committee, a Republican, gave him an 'F' on education issues. He prided himself on his failure to act with the other NoVA representatives and senators. One of the most ineffective representatives in Richmond.

There are other issues that concern many people in the district other than abortion, if he had paid half as much time taking care of those other issues for the district, as he spent on his own agenda, then maybe he'd be given the benefit of the doubt on that agenda.

The only reason he wasn't voted out previously, was that the Democrats really didn't have a viable candidate that could appeal to liberals, conservatives and independents.



Neil Z.
Resident since 1999

 

Black's social issues were a side show. He wasn't even effective getting things done with his signature issue (social issues).

The bottom line is the guy couldn't get anything done. That's what got him fired. It had nothing to do with Bush, Kilgore, or newly arriving neighbors. It was directly related to his ineffectiveness and his extreme views. He is not mainstream. Neilz hit it right, the only reason he wasn't out earlier was because there wasn't any viable candidates and/or campaigns against him.

Black needs to go away for good. His views need to go away for good. If you truly care about a vibrant republican party then you should embrace this thought.

He is dead politically. If the republicans prop him up again, they will lose. If they reject him and his views, they can return to doing great things for Loudoun County.

By the way, what next for BlackOut...hummm...Delgatago.com?

 

The problem is I do know him personally (I was Chairman of the Loudoun County Young Republicans and a worked in several county campaigns). I wholeheartedly agree that abortion is a tragedy, my issues with Mr. Black have nothing to do with him being narrowly focused on that one issue.

It's his support of Internet filters in the library (sounds good, but once you give a group of people the right to control your access to legal material online what is to stop them from deciding that we should filter access to information about Christianity). It's his idiotic opposition to including information about resources for sexual assault victims in Family Life Education curriculum.

What we need is conservative who can actually accomplish something other than alienating his own former supporters (yes I was one). Theatrical stunts accomplish nothing. Find me a candidate who is against abortion, supports the death penalty for child molesters, is willing to fight to bring more of our tax dollars back from Richmond, and can be an effective legislator (ie no more stunts for shock value) then I will support them.

 

Delgatago .. love it !!!

Neil Z.
Resident since 1999

 

I've only been in Loudoun for about 5 years, so maybe you all are right, but that's not the way I see it. And I haven't lived in the 32nd district for the last 2 years, so I've followed its happenings less since 2003. But IMO Black didn't lose because he was suddenly seen as ineffective. He lost because this bogus extremist argument stuck this time. Most voters don't have a clue how things get done or who gets them done, but will readily turn out anyone who is successfully branded an "extremist" or "out of the mainstream." Black is neither. I was quickly impressed with him when I landed here (and I was in his district) and all the assaults that I've seen against him (and Delgaudio and Snow for that matter) always have seemed to have a lot less to do with "effectiveness" than with their views on social issues. I don't remember Black's 2001 opponent, but from the campaign literature I remember getting, the opponent's whole game plan was based on this "extremist" nonsense. Poisson certainly seemed to get some decent mileage out of it this time. I'm admittedly a little more in tune with national politics but I have been to quite a few Loudoun County Republican Committee meetings, so my view of Black and other local Republicans is not skewed by press accounts and these forums. (Perhaps that is why I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would vote for Scott York for anything, but that's another matter). Branding conservatives as extremists is such a tired old game plan (see e.g. Reagan, Bork, Bush, Quayle, Cheney, Ashcroft . . .) it's amazing it ever works, but if you've got nothing else, I guess there's no choice. My general rule of thumb: if someone is attacked as an extremist, he or she is probably a pretty decent, reliable conservative. (I'm still hoping for the day when someone will call John Warner an extremist, but, alas, it doesn't appear to be in the cards).

A final note. I drive into DC every day, so believe me, the status of our roads is important to me. But IMO anyone who thinks a better road system is more important than stopping and reversing illegal immigration is hopelessly out of touch with reality.

 

If the illegal immigrants "roads" were as crowded as ours then we wouldn't have a problem, they would be stuck in gridlock too!