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New Construction In Our Area -- What is it?

Discussion in 'General Chat Forum' started by ciccone376, Mar 19, 2007.

  1. ciccone376

    ciccone376 New Member

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    Hey all-
    Just had some questions about construction going on in our area that I was hoping some of you could shed light on.

    1. What is being build across from the new Harris Teeter Shopping center in Southern Walk (the one with Glory Days). When I say 'across' I mean on the side facing the Glory Days and Anothai. They just dug up the roads there for turn lanes and that area where the construction trailers used to be is now being cleared. Could this be an extra parking area? More TH's or offices?


    2. What is being built that runs 'under' Waxpool, right before you get to that little bridge and the new Country Club. As you come down Loudoun County Parkway headed to Waxpool, and you hit the light, make a right on Waxpool, then drive about 50 yards, if you look left or right you will see massive construction efforts. It looks like the beginning of a 4 lane road, right along the power lines. Any idea what this is going to be?

    thanks for the insight.

    -C
     
  2. Zeratul

    Zeratul Well-Known Member

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    sorry for not having an answer... but I was really wondering myself about #2 and part of what I was thinking is that this could be related to the creek that runs there. Perhaps it has to do with water mitigation and run-off management. Perhaps related to the Golf course and water run-off and usage???

    It would seem like a strange place for a road... given what else is right there.
     
  3. brookema

    brookema New Member

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    With regards to the Waxpool construction.....I heard the golf course was going to be on both sides. The power company needed to put the lines underground first before they could begin construction - thats my guess.
     
  4. ciccone376

    ciccone376 New Member

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    Hmm--- the water management sounds plausible, since I've seen very large concrete pipes being delivered there the past few days... and that also plays into the theory that brookema mentioned about putting the power lines underground.

    I guess I was daydreaming to think they would improve the access to Rt. 28 from this area:(
     
  5. Lee

    Lee Permanent Vacation

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    Most of the construction there is sewer pipes going to the new treatment plant on loudoun parkway just north of the redskin park. Doubt they will bury the power lines, as I think the extension of the golf course is on the AOL side of waxpool. I could be wrong on the golf course. This is what power lines and utilities do to the country side when allowed to be put in by a bunch cowboys. Wait to you see how the powerlines junk up things that are going in soon across from the mall. Then they fall and close roads and interrupt power at times when the weather turns bad.

    Above ground utilities should be banned worldwide. They should be responsible how they go underground as well. Do we see above ground power lines crossing mall in dc or through the white house grounds or on Bush's ranch in Texas??????.

    Lee j
     
  6. kevinq

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    Bonita from the Van Metre model said that a two-story commercial building with around 80 parking spaces is being constructed across Wynridge from Anothai. The construction will mean the removal of some trees. Trees that will stay (near the model) are tagged in orange and pink.
     
  7. ciccone376

    ciccone376 New Member

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    Wow that is insane. A 2 story office building right next to/behind Townhouses and single family houses. What smart person designed that?! Not to mention, another thing to add traffic to an already congested area clogged with 4-way stop intersections.

    Gotta love it.
     
  8. Lee

    Lee Permanent Vacation

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    Ahhh the clever part of development all the surprises that come later after the residential is sold out next to the beautiful trees. Developers used to do a better job in separating the different types of buildings when Loudoun was first developed with the farms and the village. Now we get to see a lot of pretty trees become commercial buildings right up against residential. Loudoun has not done the best land planning as I said many times before. The mega commercial projects such as one Loudoun are much better planned then many of the puds. It gets worse because very clever people have bought little bits of property over the years that the developers of these puds were not able to obtain and that is where the real junk and bad designs really show up. Who controls that??? The county supervisors!!! What is their favorite saying when this junk gets built. Can't do nothing about it because it is a by right property. I say bull to that statement they can change anything they want. Wait to the above ground power lines start popping up eveywhere where they are not in a pud. Loudoun has some of the worse land planning for a very large new area in the country. Another words Loudoun started with basically a clean slate so the county should of done a better job in land planning and everything that goes with it. Just take the name waxpool and how it is jumping all over the place. That should of been corrected many many years ago before the development so the post office could of delt with it. Now it is getting harder and harder to correct this. We have a name for this kind of design in architecture and development the nice name is disposable development the name used by the insiders would offend some peoples religions here so I will not go there. ;) Especially if they never heard the terms used in conversation. Yes the architects and developers that are part of those religions use those terms also in a serious joking way. I will leave it at that before Dalyn bans me from talking about another topic. :D

    Lee j
     
  9. ciccone376

    ciccone376 New Member

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    Lee- I appreciate your perspective! That is what forums are for:)

    take care
    C-
     
  10. Kaosdad

    Kaosdad Will work for Rum

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    :|

    Yay?

    Perhaps someone can clue me in here - The "Urgent Care" building infront of Airbus on Waxpool is, what, 80% empty? The "Neon Building" by Dulles Town Center is still mostly see-thru. The buildings on 606 & 28 are, at best, 50% filled yet "they" are building more? What sense does this make?

    And, why are "we" (and I am using the Human Royal "We") so against green space? Does it gall "us" so to see trees, shrubs and the associated wildlifre that goes with it?

    There's a beautiful pair of Peregrin Falcons in the area now. At what point will we simply drive them away?

    Oy!
     
  11. mdr227

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    If you go to www.presidentialgolf.com you can see the layout for the new golf course. It has a far greater portion south of Waxpool than I thought it would according to the main picture on the home page. It apparently will span both sides of Broad Run on both sides of Waxpool.
     
  12. Lee

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    Wow now this is what we need more of in Loudoun it makes a nice entrance from waxpool to this part of the county.

    I did not know the course will span both sides of the creek so maybe there is a god and the power lines will go under ground. Well that may be asking too much from God when he has other pressing problems in the universe not just here on earth. :D

    Lee j.
     
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    If I remember right, that area was always zoned as commerical/office building in the Broadlands overall plan. Much like the area across from SFH on Broadlands Blvd where Clydes has always been zoned commerical/office.
     
  14. Lee

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    Does not matter if it was zoned that way from day one, it is still extremely poor planning, especially compared to other mixed use developments across the country. You will find the sophisticated first class commercial resdidential developers will not do that and separate the different types of uses very well. What really gets to me this kind of poor planning does not have to happen with a little thought up front. Then again if you let engineers plan you most of the time will get an eyesore.

    Lets see I have so far today have alluded to religion and now have come down on engineers. Soon I will be banned from talking about anything. ;)

    Seriously the DC area has only lucked out to the fact it starts with a beautiful slate and is only getting half *** destroyed, but just give it a chance it will be destroyed with power poles and crap architecture lining the streets.
    It is a shame because it could stay one of the most picturesque spots in the country even with development. It is starting to become pockets of beauty connected by garbage.. Woodlands Texas is one of many new towns that has done a somewhat good job over the years.

    Lee j

    Lee j.
     
  15. sharse

    sharse TeamDonzi rocks!!

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    I was in that building today and while I don't have access to their exact rental stats, it was pretty darn full, as was the parking lot.
     
  16. Kaosdad

    Kaosdad Will work for Rum

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    Whut? Since when? I can still see through the darned thing.

    But I have X-ray vision.

    And this does NOT answer the more general question - we have tones of empty office space in the area.... why do we need more?
     
  17. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    I'm not so sure abut this. My understanding is that what available office space we have is rapidly filling up. The blue-stripe building is an oddity. The owner put a price on it that rivals DC and Tyson's, so no one (yet) will pay the price. I'm seeing most new buildings being leased up as soon as they're built, such as the two new buildings off Red Rum Dr.
     
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    Lee ... remember this was first proposed by Mobil Land Corp about 20 years ago. Thoughts about 'mixed use' development were somewhat different then.
     
  19. T8erman

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    I thought that the building by the mall was in litigation (could be settled by now).

    The neon fixtures violated some sorta county code and Loudoun would not certify the building for occupancy.
     
  20. Lee

    Lee Permanent Vacation

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    I don't buy that argument, or maybe in a different way I do.

    Federal state and county regulations these days makes land planning very expensive just to do the basics these days much less put total emphasis on how beautiful it will look.

    I don't know but maybe it is human nature at times that creates all this government regulation or just regulation in the basics terms such as the hoa dealing with a basketball pole. People wanting to finish basements and build decks without building permits which then in turn creates more regulation at the cost to the people that do it correctly. Back to planning Reston was the so called first modern planned town as we know today, I am not looking way back in history to Europe etc and even parts of downtown dc, which were better done then many puds today by the way. We seem to go backwards in this especially when it comes to zoning and the view of what we see. Less regulated places such as in parts of texas have done a better job such as the woodlands which was started 35 plus years ago. Then again much of Houston can look like a junkyard only connected to beautiful places such as the woodlands and many other puds by some of the worst junk in the country.

    Here we should know better because we are some of the latest developments in the country and have a lot of successful and beautiful projects to work from from around the world. We should be building beautifully and should have the most beautiful county in the world because most of it is brand new. It is nice but far form spectacular which it should be because of the clean slate we started with. Maybe the real problem is we have too many scientist and rocket scientist and engineers and need to balance that with more artist and craftsman. :D

    I don't mean this in a bad way but perhaps Loudoun especially the eastern part has too many of the same kind of people here and needs more diversification. I am sure that remark is going to offend some here, but it is true.

    Lee j
     

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