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Neighborhood watch and the Security guards are working

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by msflynn, Jun 28, 2007.

  1. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    "Just poo" - sure not a life-changing event unto itself. But it DID/DOES affect the entire community in an adverse way. Just read the posts! :)
     
  2. VTAlum

    VTAlum New Member

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    Personally, I'd rather see it in the pool than on my doorstep in a flaming bag :p Then again, I don't use the pool that much.
     
  3. hornerjo

    hornerjo Senior Member

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    Well the one thing that's not being asked that I want an answer from the kid(s) is:

    'Why?'

    This wasn't a one-time thing. It was day after day, week after week. Everyone is jumping to punishment, and factors on whatever it may be. Personally, before I saw any actions taken I'd like to hear that answer straight from their mouths.

    Then after that, I'd like to see them to suggest what their punishment should be.
     
  4. VTAlum

    VTAlum New Member

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    are we certain it was the same kid all the other times? Seems like an unusually event, but who knows what kind of "truth or dare" type games have become popular with this generation. I wouldn't be surprised if this was being done by half a dozen different individuals.

    Seems an awful lot like a "school prank" type scenario... where the obvious intention was to have the pool close down the next day.
     
  5. Yadda Yadda

    Yadda Yadda New Member

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    Who says it's a first offense? Do you know who the person is? This level of antisocial behavior is usually symptomatic of a greater problem and neds to be nipped in the bud. Your willingness to 'cut them a break' is also part of a bigger problem. Making parents ACCOUNTABLE for their children shouldn't be an issue; it's one thing that I as a not-always perfect parent of 4 not always perfect children have always been. Why should that be different for anyone else. Oh I forgot, some people around here are WAY too important for that.

    And when they grow up and move away do you think you're any less responsible for them? Financially yes. Emotionally, never.
     
  6. kahlua1

    kahlua1 New Member

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    I'd be interested in knowing how much damage was done and how much money it cost each of us from our HOA dues to clean up from these recent incidents???

    I believe it should be paid back to the HOA in full by the family.
    If the kid gives up some other names they can split the costs, if not, let his family pay it all in full---now!

    I am always pleased to see the nice job that HLS does around the neighborhood with regard to landscaping which looks great and I think that is money very well spent. However, I am ticked off that our money is being used to pay for cleanup of feces (and whatever else) and damaged items from such a person and am disgusted that for the past several weeks since these incidents have come to light, I have not felt 100% comfortable letting my children swim in the community cess-pools.

    Thank you again to those working on this.
     
  7. VTAlum

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    The better question is... who's to say this isn't the first offense? I still have not heard anyone say that this kid they caught had anything to do with anything else. Tell me this is not his/her first 'issue' and I'm all for throwing the book at them.
     
  8. Baywatch68

    Baywatch68 New Member

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    Exactly

    (Did I just agree with Lee?)
     
  9. Baywatch68

    Baywatch68 New Member

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    Entire community? I don't know about that, but I understand.
     
  10. Baywatch68

    Baywatch68 New Member

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    I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong on this, but it doesn't cost the HOA anything in regards to dollars when it comes to the clean up. The guards are the ones who clean it up, so there is no additional charge there. The cost of the security force is another story.
     
  11. broken skull

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    I think it went the way of the buffalo...or at least went extinct along with just sneaking into the pool to take a midnight swim. That is what the "kids" in my neighborhood did when they were young. I although was too mature to sneak into the pool and take a dip in my skivies at 1 a.m.
     
  12. Peppermint

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    You know what.

    This is why I'm glad I'm moving.

    I pay enough money in HOA fees for the amenities this community provides. And when hooligans decide to crap on it by throwing furniture and what-have-you-else into the pools, destroying property (furniture) and other residents' (and their kids) enjoyment of them, and there is *any* debate on this forum about whether the under-aged perpetrator's parents should be held financially responsible (as well as the under-aged idiot who decided that, "hey I'm bored/stupid/been dared, so lemme throw rubbish into the neighborhood pool"), well, I'm just floored.

    Not saying that's what everyone was saying (but I do think some were), but honestly, the issue of responsibility for monitoring the whereabouts of one's kids (24x7 if need be, well, if need be, then YES) should not be glossed over. This is a nice neighborhood. So far. The "antics" that are underway need to be stopped. Immediately.

    I'm really glad someone was caught in the act. And yes, they should be made an example of. And their parents should be held responsible as well. I don't agree with suspending their pool rights, but financially they need to be held responsible to the fullest extent possible.
     
  13. Kaosdad

    Kaosdad Will work for Rum

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    I'm just sayin'..... I have feathers.
     
  14. Chsalas

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    no, I'm over 18 and responsible for my actions. A MINOR is under the supervision of the parents or gurdians. Therefore, is a ward of said individuals.
     
  15. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    First of all, don't jump to the conclusion that this person was responsible for the previous vandalism. This is not the first person we have found in our pools at night. Sheriff deputies and our security folks have found others.

    "Pool hopping" was something lots of kids have done over the decades. Most of the time, they are looking for some fun and the excitement of sneaking into the pools after hours. They aren't out to cause damage. It's most likely been going on for years, but now, due to the vandalism, we have the pools watched and we are catching them.

    And, lord help me, I agree with Agnesk. You try and raise your kids right and with values, but that's no guarantee they will be angels.
    I've noticed that many of the posters here that want to blame and penalize the parents do not have teen-age kids.
     
  16. Baywatch68

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    Because Broadlands is the only community in the country that has this problem.
     
  17. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    So are you saying those under 18 shouldn't be held responsible then???
     
  18. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Many don't have any kids at all!

    I still say "some posters" should have their own before diving into the deep end. How you THINK you will be as a parent and how you ACTUALLY are, are different worlds! ;)
     
  19. Peppermint

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    Never said that, so I'll thank you not to put words in my mouth. Some do, and frankly, some don't.

    But it's clear to me that Broadlands has some serious problems with over-indulged teens, who instead of being taught to appreciate everything they've been given have either ignored that lesson, or couldn't care less. Childish pranks are one thing. Destruction of property is another. I don't know whether that stems from the "Cashburn" effect or not, but the level of rudeness and "me, me, me" in this area is overwhelming. From speeding to some not bothering to pick up after your own dog (who is fouling your *own* neighborhood), to not yielding to bikers and joggers, it all just makes me cringe.
     
  20. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    I am with you Bay!

    Peppermint - Broadlands is a great community. But like most every other community in the country we are not immune to the ills of the world. And like every other community, we have neighbors who have differing opinions and a few who aren't afraid to share them.

    If you don't like it here anymore, I am glad you are leaving too.
     

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