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Broadlands Hospital

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by joy, Jun 18, 2002.

  1. Lee

    Lee Permanent Vacation

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    As you all will learn I come from the artistic and conceptual part of the architecture and design world.

    Even though I can draw the serious details and understand them I am very conceptual and my design drawings look many times more detailed and nicer then many architects finished construction drawings. I an long court case awhile back the judge was shown my design drawings and the architects drawings that did the final construction drawings. The client who I got into an battle with told the court my drawings sucked and I should not be paid although there was way more to it then that. Anyway I won and won big in that court battle.

    One of the things I remember very well was the judge wanted to take the two sets of drawings to an panel of architects he knew to see what they had to say. Hands down my design drawings were overwhelming superior to the architects drawings that finished the project. Even the architect that finished the project said my work was excellent.

    Anyway my point is I don't get to solving design problems and projects in the normal way most people think. So in a way this debate was more like how do we get a win win here and an good neighbor development on that hospital site. So basically even tho I looked very hostile to this hospital I was always thinking if it is to be built (and why is an whole other argument) how do we make it appealing and an asset to the community design wise and function wise to the community. So an "hospital in the park" that is the theme I am playing with in my mind. So what is an hospital in the park??? well that could be many many things. But first the residential by it must be made happy and respected. That is the design starting point. What that is exactly will only come by only going through the time it takes to think this out throughly. MY break thru was at first very negative to the design when I saw the drawings and walked the site. SO I kept thinking of all the objections to this hospital and put my self in the place of living in the homes closest to the hospital. What I kept writing here lately was my process in my mind how I would feel if it was built exactly as proposed and I lived in any of the homes near it. So all my negativity came out about it. Then I saw my buddies fly thru and he was explaining how he used it to understand a very sensitive site and was able to see many many problems with his original design and was able to solve them to finally make his project and excellent neighbor. and he was able to make the surrounding community comfortable about his final design and was able to show them like it was all ready built from almost every conceivable angle including the maturing of the landscaping over the years. Even how the project and the neighbors are effected by the sun and where the shadows would be at different times of the day and year. Now he is working on an animated traffic study.

    Long story short I think design wise at the moment a hospital can work and be a good neighbor at least from a design point of view. It might take an total redesign and concept but that might be more desirable then losing out altogether. The other objections such as too many beds and all that other stuff is for other minds to resolve. :happygrin: If the residential style hospital in the park concept works when built it could be used for an prototype for other very sensitive developments. anyway I am finding some renewed interest in how to make this hospital a good neighbor.:happygrin:

    Lee j
     
  2. Lee

    Lee Permanent Vacation

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    And what do you exactly oppose :happygrin: ha ha ha ha ha

    Please help me understand

    Lee j
     
  3. Baywatch68

    Baywatch68 New Member

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    I have got to get a look into your crystal ball. You always seem to know exactly what someone or some business will do in the future.
     
  4. Lee

    Lee Permanent Vacation

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    Mr Baywatch I only comment on on things I can make an good guess on. ha ha ha :happygrin: You noticed I rarely answer homeowner questions about their homes and never recommend contractors. ;)

    That would be way too dangerous!!!!!

    and now rarely get involved in politics, mostly just for the fun of it. :happygrin:

    But I did and do take local politics very seriously.

    My main concern is keeping Loudoun developments beautiful and good neighbors.

    And when the hell are you coming back to an HH they have not been quite the same without you:happygrin: ha ha

    Don't forget baywatch because of what I do most of my close friends are builders, real estate people, developers and real estate bankers. So I do hear things and I hear them without the fluff and sales pitch. :happygrin: No crystal ball here just correct information from my buddies in the business and I have been through six recessions in the building business. Houston and Dallas and Austin in the eighties. Here and California in the nineties and now again here. So where ever I move expect an housing recession sooner or later.;) So it was not hard to figure if this last boom was the largest expansion of the building industry in history so the fall will most likely be one of the worst in history at least in my little history. ;) ANd I have a very thick skin and high tolerance for criticism just in case I am wrong. ha ha ha :happygrin:

    Lee j
     
  5. Mr Rogers

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    A planned community means that everyone should be privy to the plan, not just the developer. My point about the alternate salicious businesses that could be installed in any of our strip malls or office parks would face resistance from the community. By no means am I saying that a hospital is the same as an adult bookstore, but you consistently downplay the significance of the difference between an office park and a hospital, and what effect it will have on our commnity.
     
  6. Mr Rogers

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    Who is they? Van Metre? Do they direct the board? Do they have the right to control the content of the newsletter?
    If so we are unhappy with their performance, do we have any recourse? What if every resident decided simultaneously to stop paying HOA dues? What if I could get 20% to do it?
    I should have been 1st mate on the "Bounty"!
     
  7. Baywatch68

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    I only asked about your crystal ball because the "experts" never seem to get the numbers right especially when it comes to traffic. You can show me all the models you want, but I'd put money that they wouldn't be right.

    I, along with everyone else, know all about your connections. ;) and based on these statements, I would advise everyone in the building business to avoid you as recessions seem to follow you wherever you go.:happygrin:

    Hope to get back into town this spring or summer, but right now we're working on 4 movies that are going to Sundance so I'm a little busy.
     
  8. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    They hold a majority - yes

    What - you want the newsletter to make up its own opinions and make claims for others? The newsletter is not an independent newspaper...

    Yes - attend HOA meetings and work with the resident members to let VM know you are tired of their stunts. Cliff has been working numerous angles to counteract this VM domination for ever - but he can't do it alone.
     
  9. latka

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    Several years ago the HOA took a vote from the homeowners on the hospital, what were the results of that survey?
     
  10. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Van Metre controls 5 of 9 seats on the Board. If they make a decision on something, the resident members, even if they wanted to, cannot overturn it. See my posts on other threads about what a travesty and disservice to the community it is that Van Metre will not turn the Board over to the residents. I can't get people to care about that, either.

    Technically, the HOA Board does control the Newsletter, but the HOA staff is responsible for publishing it and the contact.

    The only recourse is to come to meetings and voice your opinions.
    If you stop paying your HOA dues, then you will incur late fees, legal fees, and be taken to court for payment.
     
  11. Mr Rogers

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    I know that I would incur the full wrath of the HOA, if I act as an individual. However, I am talking about a movement of the masses, whereby in place of our payment, we send in a note demanding control of the board. (I can hear "Alice's Restaurant" playing in the background).
     
  12. T8erman

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    You signed a binding contract.

    Good luck in court.
     
  13. Lee

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    Here is what I am talking about what a video looks like.

    Click on the 3d animation button or arrow.

    And this is not real all fantasy and done on an computer but it shows you how this hospital could show us every single detail from any point of view including what every single resident will see from their property and what is peering and lurking out at the residents from the The Resort Hospital in the Park"

    This way Sharse and Rharse would not have to go far for their get away. :happygrin: Could even build an glass atrium and beach with sand for the warm getaway in this "Hospital in the Park" getaway:happygrin:

    http://www.sullivanstevenshenry.com/

    I know this is a home in Houston from an Architecture firm I am very firm I am very familiar with and grew up with them as competitors of mine in Houston. :happygrin: One of the founding principles Harold Clothier who I knew very well who started this firm died a few years after when I first started out he had big influence on me and my designs. Shame Sullivan who was just a lowly draftmans for Clothier does not give Clothier any recognition anymore. :mad: Although my designs are now far better then theirs these days ha ha ha ha ha:happygrin: Just had to throw that in there ha ha ha :happygrin:

    Lee j
     
  14. technosapien

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    I think the catch is very few people seem to care enough to do something like this.
    I've started attending any HOA meeting I can get to.

    I guess next one I go to I could stand up and ask the board what Van Metre's plan is to turn over full control to residents.

    But this falls under the "Arg, Thread Hijacked" Smiley, since this is about the Hospital.

    :hijack:
     
  15. Silence Dogood99

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    Um, maybe if the masses actually showed up to a board meeting, then that would make a statement. But sending a note would end up in the circular file, and the only thing you'd get in return was a penalty and fines!
     
  16. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    Check back a few pages.. the results were discussed in this thread
     
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    Lee, thats some quality animation. Reminds of Grand Theft Auto : Vice City but higher res. It would make a good map for BF2.
     
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    Well Homer if you think that is good you should see some the really really good ones. Like my buddies who will not let me put it in public yet. ha ha :clap:

    Lee j
     
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