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Broadlands Hospital

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by joy, Jun 18, 2002.

  1. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    KT, you're certainly allowed to have an opinion, and you are certainly allowed to debate the issues. I am sorry you feel that you can't enter the debate.

    As for a "witchhunt", heck it doesn't take a hunt to figure out what's been going on. They have been throwing softballs up, and anyone, including you, can see how ridiculous the CCoB and it's claims are.

    Now if you want to talk about the hospital and all the elements surrounding it, I think you'll find a lively and civil exchange.
     
  2. Silence Dogood99

    Silence Dogood99 New Member

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    We WERE having a very civil conversation from posts 2275 through 2300 back a few pages. I had even attempted to provide the anti-BRMC POV just to challenge certain assumptions. I think there are plenty of people willing to discuss this in a civil way. But, I guess it doesn't matter anyway! So enjoy your weekend :)

     
  3. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    So you are going to form your opinion on an important issue based on "continual blather" from a "handful of posters"? Are you that easily swayed? Please tell me that you have real issues that will help you decide or better yet, use your reasoning from long ago... "I don't want a hospital here just because". Most of us here are parents with children and we understand that reasoning better.

    Also, there are no rules that says anti-hospital people can't fight back. But if any of anti-hospital people DO fight back, please try to use some facts every now and then and not scare tactics like "what if an ambulance can't pay the toll". ;)
     
  4. eam

    eam New Member

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    Are you #%@($@ kidding me? If someone is "in your address list" that means you publish them as a supporter of your cause?

    Wow...



     
  5. neilz

    neilz New Member

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    FWIW ... I received an email from the CCoB with a link to Opt Out, and I did so. So I had thought that the 'brouhaha' would be over by now, since they did give an option to remove your name and email address.
     
  6. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    Neilz, what if you had changed your email address since moving? What if the email was dumped into your spam folder? You would have never known you needed to opt out, and you'd be listed as a hospital supporter. That's just one of the problems.

     
  7. Mr Rogers

    Mr Rogers Active Member

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    I am bored and embarrassed bu the direction of this discussion, which has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SUBJECT at hand.

    There is only one question that needs answering...
    As a community, do we want a hospital on the border of our subdivision?

    It doesn't matter if one side bought, stole, or borrowed emails.
    It doesn't matter if a doctor at "Childrens" in DC is nice and one at "Loudoun" wasnt nice.
    We are so far off the basic issue, it is embarrassing.
     
  8. KTdid

    KTdid Well-Known Member

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    Mind elaborating on your statement?
     
  9. msflynn

    msflynn New Member

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    My opinion absolutely YES.
    And I know there are several others that share that opinion. Does that mean that the community as a whole agrees with me? I would say no. I think that is why we are having this discussion. I for one would love to know how many people really oppose the hospital as well as how many are really for it. The way CCoB is supposedly collecting their supporters does not make many both for and or against it feel that the real voices of the community are being heard. I know you for one are against this hospital but yet you are not part of this list though you have asked to be. Do you feel well represented? Do you feel your concerns are being accurately spelled out and portrayed? If I were you I would be concerned that this group will so discredit themselves as to make a mockery of your real opinion. How does that help you or others that agree with you?
    It seems like it should be a simple question with a simple answer but it is far far far from that

    Staci
     
  10. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    I chuckled when I was recently added to the CCoB email distribution list. Now I no longer need it forwarded to me. I have no intentions to opt out.
     
  11. GCyr

    GCyr New Member

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    I always thought you were a "closet" supporter [of INOVA]...:)

     
  12. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Thought it was obvious. Children often use "just because" as an answer to many questions. ;)
     
  13. KTdid

    KTdid Well-Known Member

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    And I asked if you could elaborate and you say...

    :huh:
     
  14. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    KT- long ago you said you did not want the hospital... "just because"
     
  15. lilpea

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    T8 - don't feed the troll...it continues the tit-for-tat motives of some posters on this thread.
     
  16. KTdid

    KTdid Well-Known Member

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    Pea, funny you're feeding the troll (T8) and you don't realize it!:pofl: boy - action on this forum is so one-sided. Tit for Tat - oh please!
     
  17. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    4 or 5 pages ago we were doing so well- dicussing the pros and cons of the hospital- then it turned AGAIN away from the important issues to the email list, and other unproductive chatter.

    Let's go back to the mature, important discussion- or is there even a point? if you've chosen a side your argument has been stated here- what else is there to say...? maybe it's to the point where it's time for action in supporting your side. claim your side- you will surely be contacted by someone on here who know of an organization that supports what you believe, and you can be part of the PROCESS, not the chatter... :)

    I am offically for BMRC. I've heard enough evidence that the hospital will help the community greatly with the addition of Children's Hospital, and the roads. if the services offered are more sophisticated and/or specialized to help those with special needs not currently available through Inova, then I will gladly sit in a little more traffic to save a life or ease a family's medical burden.

    as a business- I don't see HCA being any worse than any OTHER business. I think the benefits outweigh the possible downsides, and have not yet been convinced by CCoB or anyone else to the contrary.
     
  18. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    the reason there isn't much else is because there isn't much else to discuss on the topic. all that is left is OPINION.

    The only things that are new in the last few YEARS are

    - hca dropped their lawsuit against the county
    - childrens hospital announcement
    - discussion of proffers to the community and county (as their importance would grow with the recent transportation funding issues)

    Everything else is purely politics. Fearmongering, discussions of the people involved rather then the results, and general smack talk. It's Politics 101.

    The hospital issues themselves have not really changed much in the last.. oh 5+ years. You keep trying to start a discussion about a dead horse. Everyone has voiced their opinions - there is nothing left to do in that area except argue.
     
  19. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    And in the news today... another group on the hospital topic

    http://www.broadlandshoa.org/hoaforum/showthread.php?t=9691

    Classic - lets not address the points but deflect. I wonder if Donna has ever considered public office?
     
  20. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    KT and I disagree every now and then but I certainly do not think she is a troll.

    It is what it is.
     

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