October 14 HOA Meeting

Honestly, I found the interaction to be very disappointing. During Homeowners Comments sections, the Board did not respond to comments or questions regarding the hospital, but promised to do so during Board Comments.

During Board Comments, Cliff responded to some of the concerns that were raised, but there was no further input allowed from the Home Owners.

Basically, it felt like a monologue delivered by the residents, followed by a monologue delivered by the president, and not the dialogue that is so desperately needed between the Board and the Home Owners. There is a disconnect between the two parties, and the manner in which the meeting was held only served to exacerbate this problem.

 

I found a few things of interest as well.



* For the four years I was on the Board, it was decided to remain neutral as this was a very contentious topic.



* That the only validation that this board had to work with was a survey that was done a few years back and more residents were against this than for it. I have seen no new attempts by the HOA to determine the 2008 stance of this community.



* That $330,000.00 has been offered by HCA to landscape the 3.5 acre parcel and they would maintain it, they would do a traffic calming study, (which they are probably bound to do, or should do if they want to be a good neighbor) and they would give $100,000 for security. As one resident stated, HCA must think we are going to need more security.



* I would like to know if these donations are subject to approval of thier proposal.



I also find it interesting that, according to Cliff, members of the Planning Commission asked for them to make a resolution. Why would professionals who determine land use issues be at all interested in how our HOA stands on this issue... I have emailed each member of the planning commission to find out the accuracy of this statement.



Many who attended this meeting felt that our very own HOA did not listen to the residents most directly impacted, nor did they care to listen and discuss their concerns.



Regardless of anyones stance on this topic, many homeowners are disappointed with the blatant disregard and disrespect shown to them by our HOA president.



I know you can't please all people, but you can be respectful to their concerns.

 

Mr.Rogers.
Thank you for coming. I gather from your comments that you attend few public meetings. For example, note that Planning Commission as well as Board of Supervisors public comments section is just that.....public makes comment. There is NO back and forth. If you engage in that, the meeting can last for hours on one topic and no other business gets done.
I did state that I would be happy to discuss things further with anyone that cared to wait until after the meeting ended. Other than Donna, no one did.

Most of our meetings have very few residents. At those meetings we will have a little more back and forth during member comments. Please feel free to attend more meetings.

 

As I mentioned, I would not consider a vote on this issue unless the resident members were unanimous. Out of respect for YOU, even though as an Inova employee you would have had to abstain from any such vote, I did not bring this issue up.

That;s complete BS and you know it. How many other meetings did the HOA have on this issue? You attended many of them, so this comment is knowingly false.

Of course they are. Why would you give anything if your project is not approved??????? It's all part of their proffer package.

Silly point. Based on this comment, why bother listening to anyone and even have public comments?

And based on many other comments, many residents feel the Board did.

And I feel the Board has been. The Board can not please everyone, least of all a well paid Inova employee.

 

1. Do you find this format satisfactory when you are a part of the public and not a member of the board? Since you have referred to the PC & BOS meetings as a model for public meetings, and it seems that you follow in kind, I would assume that you consider it an effective means of communication. I don't.
2. In my own career and life outside the Broadlands, I serve on several boards and will most likely be elected president of my local chapter on one board (I am currently VP, and the person in that position almost always moves up). My PRIMARY goal is to break down the barriers between the members at large and the Board. The only parts of Roberts Rules of Order that I plan on retaining are Calling the Meeting to Order, Roll Call, and Adjournment. The vast majority of time will be spent taking questions and comments from the floor. Any issues that can be responded to...will be responded to immediately.

I think that it is time for some reflection on the role of the board of the BHOA. Maybe it is time for a mission statement to define what it is that the HOA and its leaders seek to accomplish.

 

Actually, if this was stated PRIOR to the vote, it may have biased the vote.

 

Thank you for your sudden interest in our HOA Board meetings and how they are conducted. I agree that the meetings themselves ARE NOT the best avenue for two-way communication. I also make personal attempts to reach out and meet the members of the Board of Supervisors and Planning Commission when I want to discuss something with them. Have you done the same?

That is why I have made myself available to discuss issues with any resident, most any time. I encourage residents to contact the HOA and Board members directly if they would like to discuss issues.
You know what happens when I organize HOA meetings? No one shows up, or, at best, just a handful.
So, I will offer again, to discuss this issue you or any other residents.
In fact, I would ask residents concerned about this issue to get together, set up a meeting, and invite the HOA Board members to attend.

No offense MrRogers, but do YOU think that continual anonymous comments on a public forum is the appropriate way to reach out to Board members?
I don't know who you are or have any evidence of your residency in Broadlands other than a claim about a trash can letter.

So, in essence, your comments on this forum have no official standing with me.

I will also say that several residents, both for and against BRMC, have contacted me and I have had meetings, verbal, and email discussions with them about this.

 

seems to me this forum creates DOUBLE work for VOLUNTEER board members. so many questions raised here are and should be answered at the meetings. or should be privately emailed so board members aren't constantly put on the defensive based on a resident's whims, not facts or actual issues.

just seems that lately rumors, emotions, nitpicky non-issues are being spun into ridiculous threads. there's a real lack of respect for the time VOLUNTEERS are putting into the 'hood, and it strikes me as unfair that board members end up spending so much time defending decisions and actions that others did NOT step up to do, don't go to meetings to have a voice on and i would bet- don't devote near as much time to the community as they do this message board.

this is not directed at any one in particular- some ppl who question the board in here i DO know spend a lot of time volunteering, but then again THEY attend the meetings and don't monday morning QB in here.

posting on this board is NOT the same as getting involved.

<insert soapbox emoticon here>

 

I don't think "fair" and "respect" are offical perks to being on any board. That's why being on a board is such a crappy job.

That being said, all members of this forum should be treated fairly and with respect regardless of whether they are on the board or not. Being on a board should not rate more or less fairness and respect than any other member of the forum.

While I agree that more people should be getting involved in the meetings, This forum does serve as a communication venue for the members. If the board chooses not to use this forum as a communication venue then they should exercise their rights and not participate in the discussions.

Have the System Administrations state that this forum shall not be recognized as communication with the board, and the board should not then respond to any board-related threads.

Regardless of whether this forum is an "official" forum for board business or not, when board members post on board-related threads, they are encouraging this to be a de facto board forum.

The unfortunate responsibilty of being any elected official is that you are seldom "off the record". This is especially true in written venues like forums.

 

if i may Oz- i think what he's saying is that offical biz that should be discussed and handled at boards meeting- as in- will get residents off the message board and into the meetings- should be handled there. not b/c you guys shouldn't opine, but b/c you shouldn't HAVE to do your volunteer work twice!

am i on the right track..?

if a function of this forum IS to have HOA related issues discussed and handled, maybe that's a new category viewable only by residents. not a bad idea actually, since getting attendance at meetings seems to be a challenge. your thoughts, board members and admins...?

 

Only if you have poor reading comprehension

But nice try for the derailment.

3/10

Can you show me where I said that people who are on the board should not be allowed to post?

You could and should have two personas. One as a Board Member and one as a non-board member that way there is no confusion.