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Twenty Ashburn Teens Face Alcohol Charges After Post-Homecoming House Party

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by arsenaultj, Oct 20, 2008.

  1. arsenaultj

    arsenaultj New Member

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  2. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    it's normal teen behavior. they should have to do community service that somehow shows them the devastating effects of alcohol- empty bed pans for people left incapacitated by a drunk driver, go to meetings of people who are in support groups b/c a loved one was killed by a drunk driver, talk to recovering alcoholics about how it ruined their lives... and pick up litter in the neighborhood and on the trails!
     
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    I believe the school is only responsible for what happens on the school property or a school sanction event. What happens after is the responsibility of the parents and students to act in a lawful and responsible way.
     
  4. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    How about blaming the 47-year old woman who owned the home where all this took place, and was present while all this was going on?
     
  5. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Here is the reality of events like this. You are damned if you do and you are damned if you don't.

    Host a party at an adult supervised home where you can keep an eye of the kids (not saying it is right) or let them do it on their own (which they will) and manage themselves (hysterical laughter in the background).
     
  6. napper

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    Exactly! She should be charged since it's illegal to provide alcohol to a minor. As for the kids, the drinking age is 21, so they broke the law also. They should be held accountable.
     
  7. aoakley

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    right, or the kids could have gotten it and been in the basement or some where drinking when the parents were sleeping. (Not saying from experience or anything.....)

    At the end of the day, it's wrong and I'm glad the kiddies got caught.
     
  8. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    No, we should not blame the school for having the homecoming game. No, we should not have received an e-mail / voice message from the school. :shakehead:

    How about blaming the adult that was at the house? :nono:
     
  10. BigDog

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    I'm sure that's exactly what the misguided mother of the party thought.

    The reality is, as parents you can communicate and watch your teenages closely. And let them know they'll be consequences from their actions. Thinking you should host the party, because they'll just have one anyway, is just lazy parenting.

    I also doubt you or the house party mom have enough liability insurance to cover potential damage or injury housing such a party.:screwy:
     
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    Buffettbassman Troll Extrordinare'

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    What's disturbing is the attitude of some parents when they came to pick up their children. Sheriff Simpson was quoted on News 4 last night saying that some parents were like "no big deal."

    According the report, the school resource officer was the one that tipped off police.
     
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    Parents are already trying to excuse their behavior on the Loudoun Times site. I know where my kids were at 1:30 am Sunday morning, in bed, at home.
     
  14. Ozgood

    Ozgood Not a space alien

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    I am also interested in how these minors got ahold of the alcohol. Unless there were running their own still, they got it from somone and that someone was probably an adult (who we CAN hold accountable).

    Did the owner of the house provide the alcohol?
    Did some ABC employee illegally sell it to minors and they brought it to the party.

    At some point there was an adult who transfered possession of alcohol to minors. This is one of the people LE needs to focus on.

    As has been pointed out, teens want to drink alcohol. There is little that can be done about that. However, as adults, we have the legal and moral responsibilty to deny access to alcohol to minors, despite their desire to have it.

    If every adult were to take this legal and moral responsibility seriously, it would go a long way to help this problem. While there is little the government can do about moral responsibilities, the legal responsibilities can be enforced....and should be enforced.
     
  15. Chsalas

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    Your kidding right? Next time you have a few hours to kill, park over at the Safeway close to the ABC store on a Friday or Saturday early evening. More than a few times you can see a group of people park, teens and others, the teens go into the safeway for ice, soda, cups, juice or what ever they need and the person with them go to the ABC store. They come back and meet in the parking lot, the person who went to the ABC store puts the alcohol in the teens car and they leave separately. It happens all the time, and not just that ABC store. Granted, the others teens may be close to 21, but they are not 21 or they would go in and purchase themselves.

    I've called the sheriff department at least 5 times about this, but they never seem to get there on time.
     
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    Come on people, let's not get all spun up over teeagers drinking alcohol. Most of us did it, our parents did it and probably most of our kids do or will do it.

    Do I condone it, no. But I am also not going to get my knickers in a twist if/when my son is a teenager and gets nailed for underage drinking. Sloppy drunk, binge and drinking/driving are a different matter.

    We educate, threaten, bully, promise and love them where alcohol is concerned because most of us have been down that road. Then pray to goodness that they make the right decisions.
     
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    T8....How old are your kids?? You may feel differently in a few years.
     
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    My son is 5. And no, I will not feel differently about this. I am not that much of a hypocrite and I remember when I was a teen.

    I am also not so puritanical in thinking we should have total abstinence during one's formative years. Personally, I think there is not a thing wrong with giving your child small portions of wine with a meal. Take away the "taboo" aspect of alcohol and maybe they develop healthy drinking habits when adults.
     
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    i agree with this. my dad gave me "permission" to try alcohol, and removed all the cool from it. one sip of Old Grand Dad and i was deterred from drinking for a long time- ugh. removing the mystery is effective for many kids- some will still choose to drink and nothing can be done about their decision.

    as a kid i also feared doing ANYthing illegal. i always valued my dad's opinion of me, and the idea of getting busted and disgracing myself in front of him was enough to keep me from drinking, doing drugs, or even smoking.

    there was also the fact that i was a cheerleading captain, and felt like i was an ambassador of my school, and that i had too much to lose by drinking. i know- corny- but i bought into it, and kicked girls OFF the squad who drank or umm--- behaved LOOSELY. :) (how much more PC could THAT get!!)

    that's part of why at a very young age- my kid is 10 now- we keep our son active in sports- teach him to respect his body by eating right and being active. if his peers aren't into it, if he's had it at home and thinks it's no big deal, and if he knows we'll beat the living crap out of him for doing it, that's the best we can do as parents, the rest is up to him. :)
     
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    I hope I'm around in 12 years.
     

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