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HOA Question Authority of HOA to Enter Property

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by dcdavis, Sep 29, 2009.

  1. Buffettbassman

    Buffettbassman Troll Extrordinare'

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    I've reported you to the admin for trolling.
     
  2. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    That was actually the first thing I checked out. But because the sheriff's office is understaffed and the deputies already have overtime functions, there were none available for us to use.
     
  3. sds

    sds New Member

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    To the OP: That is disturbing that they entered your back gate.

    I have a huge problem with the HOA being on my property without my permission and I'll tell you why: Unless the HOA would sign some sort of waiver that if they fell and shattered their ankle, or slipped and hit their head, or got bit by a snake (and we have plenty around our yard), that we, the homeowners, could not be sued or held responsible for their being injured on our property, (and I can tell you that no such waiver exists) they have no business entering our private property without permission (but they will anyway and they have).

    If enough of us get sick of the HOA, we can band together usurp them! :) I'd be all for that. Most HOAs take themselves way too seriously and ours in no exception.
     
  4. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    Nice thought - but really pointless. Someone being there illegally doesn't absolve you from liability no matter what. So why try to single this out as an HOA related issue?
     
  5. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    Usurp away. You ARE the HOA!
    If you don't like the way the Board of Directors manages the community, I extend the opportunity for you to attend any/all of our monthly meetings to let us know what you do not like. We always have an open forum session for residents.
    You are also free to run for a Board seat and, if you win and get the majority of the Board to agree, you may be able to change the way things are done.
     
  6. gunzour

    gunzour "Living on the Edge"

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    What about the meter readers who do the same thing to read your meter every month?
     
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    Odnar New Member

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  8. boomertsfx

    boomertsfx Booyakasha!

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    it's a lot cheaper in the long run to automate things
     
  9. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    In the orginal documents YOU SIGNED when you purchased your home you gave permission.

    And if you submit an application for a modification, when YOU SIGN you given permission also.

    Mayeb one should read the document(s) a bit closer before complaining about something that they agreed to... IN WRITING ;)
     
  10. sds

    sds New Member

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    i'm not interested in an argument. just stating my opinion because I skimmed through a 5 page thread and nobody had made the liability point yet. It is a valid point.

    I realize I signed HOA documents, no, I don't need to go back and read them closely, I know what they say. It's not like I could pick and choose which parts to agree to if I wanted to live in this home...but that doesn't mean I have to like all of them or think that they are all sensible. it doesn't mean they are set in stone either, as Cliff so eloquently pointed out: we are the HOA. Problem is, HOA has to annoy many people before they will care enough to start showing up at the meetings and trying to change things (myself certainly included). That's usually how these things work, the HOA takes and takes and gets more and more ridiculous with the bylaws until they peeve off enough residents to be bothered to take the HOA down a notch. Don't take your eye off 'The Man' and all that! ;)

    ...and as for meter readers, what a job that must be! wonder how many of them get mauled by dogs each year? I know the door to door USPS workers have issues, but I'd say it's a whole new ballgame venturing into people's gated backyards! eep!
     
  11. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    If you think this represents the motivation of our HOA in any sense at all - you are sorely mistaken. In fact the HOA tends to shy AWAY from things unless necessary because the more rules, etc you setup, the more people and time it takes to enforce them. More people = More Money. More time = More Money. And generally since we have very little of money, the above means those that volunteer must give more time - which few people are eager to do.

    So please pass on the drama - it's not representative of this community at all.

    and your liability concern carries no weight - because as I said, with or without permission, it does not exclude you from personal liability. So even if you forced the HOA to sign a waiver, that wouldn't protect you from any other random person causing you liability concerns. If a kid climbed your fence and fell in a hole in your yard, you can't just say 'well I didn't tell him he could come in my yard'. So your problem is completely irrelevant of HOAs. You are liability for your property no matter the reason the person is present.
     
  12. RobVT3

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    HOA's are sort of a necessary evil for PUD's and other cluster developments in my opinion. I tend to be for very limited government, but I don't want the person next door to paint their house pink either. As long as an HOA is fiscally conservative and accepts the fact that they have a limited budget, you won't hear too many complaints from me. What happens in the federal government when they need more money? Usually two things: The Fed creates money out of thin air leading to inflation (hidden tax). Unless The Broadlands develops its own currency, I don't think we have to worry about that. The Second is they raise taxes (in our case HOA dues). As long as our HOA dues are reasonable and don't exceed inflation I don't have a problem with the HOA maintaining our common areas and protecting our property values. Of course if they ever get out of control, we still have our second ammendment rights!:sniper:...just kidding guys...sort of.
     

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