Broadlands Hospital

I think what the hospital will do for us:

1. Tax income -a)directly paid by the hospital b)through other businesses that benefit from the hospital (including restaurants and other retail) c)from staff that select out community as their place to live (increased demand for homes, etc...)
2. Knock on effect of sustaining local businesses - a)retail establishments like brambleton's town center will be able to sustain itself and get tennants b)things in southerwalk shopping center will be able to survive (we will get a higher quality more expansive selection)
3. Medical needs will be better served - there will be depth and choice for medical care as specialists will locate close to the hospital, for those of us that have had to deal with real medical issues - proximity is very important


etc.....

It is not that I am so sure, but I am so concerned that there is so little business expansion in our county. I am fearfull that taxes will rise or service quality will decline - both will have very real knock on effects to our home values (do not forget many moved to our community for solid schools - the last thing we want is for that to no longer hold true)

 

These are persuasive arguments. I'm just not sure that I want the hospital to be 1/4 mile from my house, and much closer to other houses. I wish they would have bought the land on the other side of Belmont Ridge and applied for a zoning exception there. Better yet in a similiar place in Brambleton or South Riding because of greater need. My own selfish self woulf prefer it closer to me, but just not in our neighborhood.

 

...And got paid by Loudoun Hospital for every hour of it!!

What is your budget for this round of hospital fear mongering and mis-information tactics?

 

Dude that is a serious charge. What proof do you have that every hour Donna has spent fighting this hospital was paid by Loudoun Hospital? Accusing someone of bias is one thing, but people get sued for statements such as yours.

 

Not all smileys are created equal you know. Some obviously are intended for humor, others are not! :indiff3:

 

AFGM, Give it a rest. You gave me grief for not having a disclaimer on my signature and you gave me grief for having one, why don't you read it and I think that should answer (yet again and again and again) your remarks made about me and any other person who doesn't agree with you.

 

The Loudoun County property appraiser has all that info, usually. Try here:

http://inter1.loudoun.gov/webpdbs/

EDIT:
Well that was stupid. LOCO property appraiser wouldn't have info on Fairfax homes.

http://icare.fairfaxcounty.gov/Search/GenericSearch.aspx?mode=ADDRESS

 

Interesting but doesn't cite sources to support the "facts". The site is also unfinished -- lots of 404 errors, which causes pages like "About" not to work. So of course, with no "About" page, and with the posts all signed by "Site Admin" the whole site is shrouded in anonymity. The domain is registered to Metro Design Works, a website deign firm in Ashburn... which ultimately means nothing since they may just be the design firm, and not responsible for the content. Heck lee, for all I know, it's YOUR website.

Thanks for the link!

 

Glad you caught on to that too...I am pretty sure Metro Design has a PO Box at the parcel store in the Safeway plaza...

 

GM - didnt you now Donna just got a hefty promotion as the Director of Community Outreach for INova Loudoun?

Of course she is going to be all over this thread and anything related to HCA.

I keep getting her stupid Spam emails filled with lies about HCA, lets just hope she doesnt send out more letters on the Broadlands HOA letterhead.

Those that jumped on Cliff's back about his opinions and questioning his hours he has volunteered - while Donna on the other had who was hired by INova. She has ZERO credibility on this thread.

 

If you are referring to me as the one who mentioned how much time Cliff has spent on it, I clearly clarified that I meant that the amount of time in and of itself was odd. I never questioned the veracity of that claim.

As far as Donna not having any credibility because she is employed by Loudoun, fine. I did not know that "every hour" she has spent fighting the hospital was paid for by Inova. So she has been employed by Loudoun Hospital as a spokesperson before she began to publicly question this hospital?

Further, some people become employed fighting something they do believe in. You think people involved in Greenpeace hate the environment? Do people employed by the NAACP think that society gives everyone a fair shake? Sure, I'll read bias into Donna's posts, but it does not mean all her arguments are without merit, or are not what she really believes.

 

I think you all should get a copy of the architects site plan and renderings of the buildings and floor plans.

Study them carefully before you say yes or no.

I have have seen them today and I am going to save my comments for a later date. This debate about the hospital is quite interesting especially after seeing the architects drawings and I am reserving my opinion for a later date as I don't want to influence this debate one way or another for awhile.

Lee j

 

For those of us not in the biz, how does one get a look at these?

 

Ummmm, relax. I was actually backing up your point, but having grown up in McLean, I didn't know they had a town center and there is not one on 123, but I digress.

 

I've known Cliff for years - if he said 100+ hours I believe it is probably more - he volunteers A L O T of his free time to the community. Granted I dont always agree with him, but the way some of you have attacked him was pretty low

Huh? when was that ever stated - INova hired her (after her vocal) opposition to BRMC

C H I L L-L A X

I like Donna (on a personal level) but the reality is Donna's paycheck comes from INOVA, the same INOVA that has >$1B I L L O N dollars in revenue profits, healthcare monopoly in NOVA, gives inferior in-patient care, runs their staff into the ground and DOES NOT pay one dime in county taxes.

Heck yeah I want a choice in healthcare other than Inova ( you try and wait in the ER for 10+hours and then end up in the ICU b/c of the back-log)...I also hate the fact I have to get on the freakin greedway because the closest alternative provider from INova is in Reston.

 

AFGM said that "every hour" Donna has spent fighting HCA was paid for by Loudoun Inova. Thats what I was talking about. I was not attacking Cliff's credibility with the # of hours. I was attacking the credibility of the argument that many if not most hostpitals in this area are in similiar residential areas.

Maybe the hospital belongs here, I just like calling a spade a spade.

And consider yourself right if you want, I really would be nervous about getting into it with the person who wanted to oust Flynnibus after needling the people in charge of the Loudoun county web site.

Please let us not be hostile.

 

Call me. I'm the one that showed them to Lee.

 

Lee...I'm betting this is a website put together for the sole purpose of defeating BRMC.
Donna started one up like it the last time around. In her most recent I hate the hospital email, she promised to get another one up and running. I'm assuming this is it.

 

Never said I was right. Dont be nervous, but talk about a cheap shot...maybe you should be nervous, ahh but I digress back to your question about residential areas.

Below is a list of hospitals in NoVA that are either entirely surrounded by SFH or have 2 or more sides adjacent to a residential community:

Fairfax (Inova) Fair Oaks (Inova) Potomac - dale city va (Inova) Mt Vernon (Inova) Prince William (Inova) Alexandria (Inova)...do you see a pattern...I do I N O V A!

Reston (HCA) Virginia Hospital Center, NoVA Community Hospital

FACT: hospitals are built in or very close to residential areas - that's where the people live. Do you think the homeowners in Bethesda told NIH or Suburban hospital...ummm..."No Thanks" we believe in NIMBY... probably a few did...but I'm pretty glad I could travel a short distance to participate in clinical trials to beat my cancer...something INova did not have available for me.