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Feds Voice Concern About Funding Dulles Rail

Discussion in 'General Chat Forum' started by Lee, Jan 24, 2008.

  1. fidothedog

    fidothedog Member

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    This is all about money and nothing else. And where do you think the state thinks it can now get the money to fill the potential hole left by the fed?

    Of course, sell the Dulles Toll Road (see Sunday Washington Post Metro Section) to investors.

    Can you say $12 tolls each way to Tysons plus $4 each way on the Greedway......

    They might as well as take me out back, whack me on my head and steal my wallet now....
     
  2. gryphon

    gryphon Banned User

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    Thank you, vacliff. Your acknowledgement that the Broadlands HOA acts as a level of government is helpful.

    Also, I did not see any response to the questions about your comments about the special inside knowledge you have about violations of the law occuring with the air traffic control system. Feel free to PM me if you have questions about the procedure to report violations, and I would be happy to help. Many government employees who stand up when they see something wrong have saved countless lives over the years.
     
  3. lilpea

    lilpea Member

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    Fido - here is today's follow up article

    Wash Post Jan 28 Dulles Rail

    ...after reviewing...much concerns me.

    Carlyle seems to be the "domestic" and a more evolved MIG (current owners of the Greedway). In just over 11mos- they raised > 1.15BILLION for their newly established "Infrastructure Fund". Per Robert W. Dove, co-head of the fund ..."The attraction for Carlyle is the steady revenue from tolls".

    Big mistake to think about making the rail a private venture...look what happened with the Greedway. At first the tolls where reasonable-now less than 6 years later the VC SCC has continued to feed the hungry beast and the financial burden falls on our backs.
     
  4. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    Tolls are steady - but don't pay for large capital infrastructure on their own. So they use debt... and then the cycle just continues. Tolls have to be crazy to support the 100s of millions roads need to actually be in the black.

    That's why roads should be subsidized, government expenditures - not private roads. If people want to make private roads - let them, but they should get no 'exclusive' and no funding that would otherwise be used for government roads.
     
  5. lilpea

    lilpea Member

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    It is rather interesting...feds say they are going to pull the funding and then the Carlyle group quickly show interest.

    After taking a look at the members of their BoD..this just makes me wonder what benefit this will render to have a private firm involved.
     
  6. gryphon

    gryphon Banned User

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    thepea2001, are you becoming a government conspiracy theorist? ;)
     
  7. lilpea

    lilpea Member

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    Gryphon - nah...just stirring the pot.
     
  8. lilpea

    lilpea Member

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  9. gryphon

    gryphon Banned User

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    Thanks for sharing. Dare I say, "The plot thickens"?:scaredeyes:
     
  10. razng2grtboys

    razng2grtboys New Member

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    Dulles Rail back on track? That's what I've been hearing in the news lately. Anyone care to shed some light on the subject?
     
  11. Lee

    Lee Permanent Vacation

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    It will be built, just those tunnel crazies trying to get their way any way they can :devil2:
     
  12. Brassy

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    I sure hope so. If gas prices stay high, without Rail to this area we will be hampered in selling our houses. "To far out"
     
  13. Lee

    Lee Permanent Vacation

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    Well my builder buddies building homes close in such as Vienna or closer can't build homes fast enough and I can't design them fast enough and Dalyn is selling them like crazy all close in. The higher gas goes and the slowness and lack lack of roads out here the worse sales will be out here compared to close in and our values will keep dropping and the subway is ten years away.

    The nice thing there seems to be less fights out of Dulles and the airlines are getting rid of their loud gas guzzling jets and leaving the quieter fuel efficient ones :) I bet we see 5 to 6 dollar gas by the end of the year. :)
     
  14. boomertsfx

    boomertsfx Booyakasha!

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    But it was mainly the pilot's fault for not following the controller's correct taxi instructions because they didn't maintain a sterile cockpit and weren't as focused as they should have been.

    It will be nice when the new system comes out .. I would fly in a pilot-less aircraft but I'd like a backup pilot available just in case! =)
     
  15. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    And, like most airline accidents, it is usually 2-3 factors together that lead to a crash. If one of those factors doesn't occur it is quite possible the accident doesn't happen.
     
  16. neo_mra_ct

    neo_mra_ct New Member

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    Hi folks,
    I am new to the area, moved from Phoenix, Arizona, but have traveled here many times over the last few years. I loved it so much I moved here. Yeah, I know, everyone says I am crazy. I moved to Broadlands because it is very well kept and is close to work.

    Now, I realize I may get allot of criticism for this remark but I will say it anyway. Why would anyone choose to make a 1.5 hour commute when they could just move closer and not have said commute. I realize you would have to get a smaller place, smaller yard, but isn't that what working in DC is all about, isn't that what earning that higher salary is suppose to be for. It's probably not so someone can live 90 minutes from work and get to drive your Mercedes CLS to work...

    Also, there are plenty of large companies outside of DC that people can work, like in Reston, Tysons Corner, and other nearby areas. My car gets horrible gas mileage but I am ok with it because I work 7 miles from home. If I had to leave this job and work in DC, I would buy a house closer to DC. I have always figured that if you want the higher salary, you are going to have to pay for it in one way or another.

    All that being said, I think the main problem of every single one of the problems being mentioned above is fuel prices. If gas were back down where it should be, all of these problems would basically go away because they are all related.

    Just my .02 cents...

    Let the bashing begin.

    Oh, one more thing, I love this area, and I think that it will hold it's CORRECT value and stay in the pristine condition it is today for years to come, that is the most important thing, right...
     
  17. T8erman

    T8erman Well-Known Member

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    Neo - welcome to the "hood".

    BTW, I think you made an outstanding choice to live in Broadlands!
     
  18. pamD

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    I am not a big fan of bashing, but I have to point out the things you are missing:

    1. Besides the "higher salary" in some industries, DC is also about serving in government, which does not always come with a "higher salary."
    2. Some people live in two-income households - and the two jobs might not have much leeway re: location.
    3. Job satisfaction is sometimes more important than salary/commute.
    4. Schools--I might have had to think hard about sending my daughter to public school in Alexandria or Arlington, triply so in DC proper. (Private is always an option, but not something I want to do)
     
  19. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    Welcome to Broadlands and our forums!

    BTW, if you see a guy in a Hawaiian shirt pacing back in forth in front of your house trying to tell you the sky is about to fall, that's Lee, our resident "forecaster of a dire future" from a neighboring development. While harmless from a distance, keep your eyes open, since he tends to be quite obsessively repetitive.
     
  20. Lee

    Lee Permanent Vacation

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    Linux you do have a sense of humor I am impressed :pofl::devil2:

    neo_mra_ct welcome to Loudoun and I do agree with what you say. It does seem a bit silly to sit in traffic for hours a day, when there are so many alternatives like moving closer in and the schools in fairfax and parts of maryland are rated better then here. But that is another story.;) Loudoun is really great especially if you live and work here or close by. Just so Linux can get a laugh two things are certain for the next many years. the schools will get more crowded and have less money to spend. ANd the traffic is going to get far worse as all they do in Virginia is talk about fixing traffic rather then doing something. We had something called the waxpool task force last year and now defunct and it was the biggest waste of time which produced nothing to help waxpool. Only thing that will get roads built here are developers or much higher taxes. And I doubt even higher taxes will get much of any roads built. ANd one of our new BOS Andrea McGimsey is on the record that the state should build the new roads so, so much for any improvement in the roads over the next four years. At least we will have rail but no roads to get to the park and rides effectively.

    OK Linux how am I doing???/ I am living up to the reputation you have put one me??? ha ha ha ha:devil2:


    Welcome to the hood. :)
     

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