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Handing out fliers?

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by tvl, Jan 14, 2006.

  1. tvl

    tvl New Member

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    Has anyone else seen the person handing out fliers on the corner to Claiborne and Broadlands? That intersection is bad enough without someone running up to the cars. I've seen someone there the last two days, but on a side I wasn't on, so I couldn't figure out what the fliers were for. Anyone know what it's for, so we can call and suggest against it?
     
  2. neilz

    neilz New Member

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    It is probably for the GOP Canvass for the open senate seat that Sen Bill Mims has vacated. That will be occurring on Monday. FWIW .. if they political party puts up any signs, let me know, I'll take them down. We do not allow any signage on common areas in Broadlands.

    FWIW .. the people handing out flyers are well within their 1st Amendment rights, not sure if there's anything anyone can do about it.



    Neil Z.
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  3. mdcrim

    mdcrim Member

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    THAT would be why there was a deputy sheriff out in the median talking to some guy today (it looked like he had set up some sort of political flyer). Both the officer and they guy were gone when I was done shopping about 20 minutes later. Someone must have reported him. I love Loudoun, they don't mess around when it comes to soliciting.
     
  4. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    Neilz,

    Ashburn Farm also supports the local and state ordinances against illegal ROW signs. The Ashburn Farm staff and several volunteers constantly fight this road spam, and political signs fall into that category.

     
  5. christinaandrob

    christinaandrob New Member

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    There are tons of political signs at the Broadlands Blvd/Claiborne Pkwy intersection this morning. There are also people handing out fliers at Safeway - so they must have moved.
     
  6. neilz

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    The GOP caucus is going on today. I've personally removed illegally placed signs from along Claiborne and Waxpool. If they want them back, they can get them from the HOA office.

    However, there are over 100 illegally placed signed along Broadlands Blvd as you approach the School Admin Building. I don't have the time to pull all those up, and argue with the idiots who put them their.

    Frankly, I don't care if you're Democrat, Republican or Independent, signs along a VDOT ROW are illegal, but also, since all the medians are maintained by the HOA, and the HOA covenants do not allow any signage (other than official) on the common areas, they will be removed.

    The only temporary signs that we allow on the medians, are the official signs that point to the location of a polling place.

    FWIW .. I've got 5 Minchew, and 3 Staton signs I'm dropping off at the HOA office when I finish this.



    Neil Z.
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  7. JenCo

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    FWIW..it was one of the candidates asking people to vote for him. Forget which one though.
     
  8. jjenkins

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    Guess the laws don't apply if your running for office?
     
  9. 4thand26

    4thand26 New Member

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    The guy handing out flyers at the intersection of Broadlands Blvd and Claiborne was Scott Smith. Here are the results of the election as published in today's Wash Post.

    Staton: 1539 votes
    Minchew: 837
    Chapman: 345
    Smith: 34
     
  10. jjenkins

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    Now that's funny. Thanks for sharing
     
  11. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    Re the fourth candidate: I read a little on the issues group he was credited in the press as working with, and I'm wondering if the voluntary (read free) filing fee for an election during a GA session created an opportunity (however brief) to get some soundbytes in the press. Maybe the group (something to do with fathers'/non-custodial parents' rights) has some legislation up in this session?

    Going into the primary, I was hoping that website was NOT the official campaign site! ;)

    Barbara Munsey, from South Riding.
     
  13. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    Barbara,

    You may be right about his motives.

    I was under the impression there was a $2,500 stipend to get your name on the ballot. I am pretty sure he had to pony it up. That makes his 34 votes worth 73 buck a piece. Pretty expensive, but then again who knows what he's going to use the pub for.

    The website was published in Leesburg Today, so I assume he gave it to them, it was part of his bio.

    I just assumed the guy had a great, albeit expensive, sense of humor. Then again, maybe he was totally serious.

     
  14. Barbara

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    AFGM, I think it had something to do with drop-dead dates for publishing public announcements and such. There were news stories galore about filing, etc, but the election was so sudden I don't think it allowed time for the full notice procedure.

    Hence, voluntary fee (suggested, but not collectible) and a space for write-ins on the ballot, which must be done if there wasn't time for the full round of published advertisements.

    I may be wrong, but that is my understanding of the process.

    Barbara Munsey, from South Riding.
     
  15. Dutchml

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    Just got the Loudoun County big-wigs for Minchew flyer in the mail today. How timely, two days late!
     
  16. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    That's what is so scary about special elections. No time to get the word out. The only ones who show up are the zealots. In the case of this weeks party canvas, Black zealots.

    This is a good time to remind everyone, January 31 is the special election. Mark Herring, Democrat is running against Republican Mick Staton.

    Try and find info out about both and decide who you like best, but most importantly vote.

     
  17. Barbara

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    Are you sitting down, AFGM?

    *ahem* I agree with you.

    Please do get informed, and please do vote.

    If possible, get the info from actual source material and avoid like the plague the McActivist flyer people. Washington Post articles today--Kaine's big plan will not use APFOs to address growth, and will NOT AFFECT BY RIGHT DEVELOPMENT. I am a property rights supporter (which does NOT mean I support putting nuclear plants next to organic kumquat farms--that's what zoning is for), so I don't think by right usages should disappear. However, by promising the moon I think Mr. Kaine has raised unrealistic expectations, and if there is no addressal of attrition based growth through a total lack of actual planning, we get more trouble than we've already inherited.

    Basically what this proposal means is that, IF APPROVED, the magic new growth controls will give localities the ability to deny planned growth proposals, while allowing continued by right development.

    Whoopee.

    Barbara Munsey, from South Riding.
     
  18. Skins fan

    Skins fan Tequila fan (100% agave)

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    Barbara,

    Giving localities more power to decide what is best makes alot of sense to me. Not sure how you can support giving localities less power to manage development. This proposal would be one more tool which could be used in managing development. Most importantly it would allow Loudoun and other counties to ensure that proper infrastructure would be built BEFORE approving new development. Would it end up costing the developers and new homebuyers more? Sure it would. They would pay instead of existing taxpayers. This is the way it ought to be IMO. New development should not be a financial burden on existing taxpayers. I am not against new development but I am for giving more control to Loudoun.

    skins fan

     
  19. Dutchml

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    By-right development ensures no new infrastructure paid for by developers. Proffered development is being shot down by zoning and activist groups because it means more homes, but with that comes absolutely no improvements for the benefit of the county. So who is going to pay for all this needed infrastructure if everything being approved is by-right only? (Answer=us).
     
  20. Barbara

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    Dutchml, you've got it.

    Zoning is general land use and base density. One school of thought prefers to think of it as sufficient planning, when in fact it is only concept/macro.

    Actual micro planning, including the roads, schools, firehouses, parks, biketrails, etc becomes specific when someone takes a whack at an area within the zoning overlay.

    The "controls" mentioned in the article today basically boil down to "if you have a group in office that is so inclined, they can legally deny planned land use that fits your existing concept plan if the regional facilities are deemed inadequate."

    The facilities have been kept deliberately inadequate here for years by those who seek a blasted-land buffer to their territory. Never mind that many of the most vocal advocates own parcels smaller than the base zoning they demand (out of other peoples property).

    Impact fees have more proponents than APFOs (a de facto moratorium method), yet would net fewer dollars than are being realized through the proffer system. By right is not going away in this state, and neither is Dillon in our lifetime.

    We are being offered the ability to deny planning with a stacked deck of years of delayed and opposed facilities, which, if the ruling body holds the philosophy, will actually result in denial of any planning and continued haphazard sprawl land use that eats up any possibility to connect the overdue dots.

    It only makes sense if the overall goal is attrition, and that means the economy too. Jobs = people, and we can't have that!



    Barbara Munsey, from South Riding.
     

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