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How to break into the IT field?

Discussion in 'Jobs and Help Wanted' started by polar8825, Dec 2, 2007.

  1. polar8825

    polar8825 Human Propulsion Expert

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    Hi all, I thought I would solicit some advice from the plethora of tech pros who post on this forum. I was recently laid-off from my company, and thought that this might be an excellent opportunity to make a career switch. I have 16 years of experience in a customer service oriented field, in which my main expertise was materials/parts procurrment along with employee/department management. I also served as the company's "computer guy", diagnosing and troubleshooting pc, printer, and software issues along with user setup and maintenance, and some simple network and TCP/IP issues.

    Of all my responsibilities, I had the most fun handling the technical challenges. I just seem to be drawn to anything hands-on and structured in nature. So my question is, how does someone without any formal experience or training with a BS in Finance (not computers) break into this field? I believe a great start would be with a Help Desk or Desktop Support position, but do I need certifications first?

    I would appreciate any and all comment and suggestions. Thanks!

    Polar
     
  2. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    I would tell you that at entry level positions - demonstrating self-motivation, troubleshooting skills, and personality would easily get you hired over someone with just a few certifications listed.

    Most of the 'basic' certs are so simple you can read a book and just past the test. It might be helpful to just get some real basic ones just to demonstrate you can.

    The harder challenge would probably be to get a job that pays enough for what you need. Demonstrating practical experience and familiarity with the products in place are going to be critical though to get the higher paying jobs.

    So one could say to get a starter job.. get some practical experience while doing some self-taught certifications would be a good starting point to get a foothold. Then its a upsell job to jump from that job to a higher paying job.

    Our company is always hiring TAC guys.. but I wouldn't call it the most desirable job. However, we are usually hiring (though I don't know about locally) Sales Engineers.. which are higher paying jobs (probably 50k-100k I would guess) who are hybrid technical/sales guys. There, customer interaction and sales often can carry a person much further then the technical side. Most end up becoming sales guys anyways.. because the money is so good if you can do the job (125-250-++++ I would speculate)
     
  3. lilpea

    lilpea Member

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    I agree with Flynn's thoughts

    Personally I started in Telco 11+ years ago in an entry level position (making peanuts)...along the way I ended up getting several Certs, moved into implementation, engineering, and now into sales/contract management.

    Of all the postions... I loved Sales Engineering - live trouble shooting and design is the best job I had (excluding the pay).

    Now with 6+ certs I sell & manage federal telco contracts and crunch 100K+ CLINs and the $$$ is on target w/ what Flynn indicated.

    Best best - get in touch with IT recruiting firms (APEX etc) and track a path on your proposed IT career.
     
  4. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    How bad is the commute to the offices?
     
  6. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    if you are talking about CARFAX, it's really not bad. I drop my son at school at 7:45am, and I am in the parking lot by 8:15am, most days. It's at the corner of 28 and 29, close to a Trader Joes and Lifetime Fitness. Getting OUT of Ashburn- from Hillside Elementary to 28- takes the awhile, about 15-18 minutes to go 6 miles! the ride down 28 is cake. T

    The ride back (between 5:30 and 6:30pm)is normally about the same, but lately there's been a hold up between McClearen and the Greenway entrance on 28 that's added about 10 minutes to my evening ride.

    Thank goodness for Sirius satellite radio!! (Bababooie bababooie.)
     
  7. polar8825

    polar8825 Human Propulsion Expert

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    Thanks a lot to all who replied. I have been told by several other people that good communications skills, a desire to learn, and the right attitude often trump technical experience when trying to enter the IT field. Your responses have helped to reinforce that.

    I am fortunate to be at a place in my life that money is not the most important component in the equation, and taking an entry level position to gain practical experience toward future advancement is a very real possibility right now. I am more interested in achieving an improved quality of life and personal/ professional balance (i.e. more training time on the bike, uh, I mean with my wife... :) ). My previous job entailed regular 50-60 hour work weeks with VERY HIGH STRESS for not a lot of money in a crappy industry, so the bottom line is I'm ready to have some fun and enjoy going to work again!

    Thanks again folks.

    Polar
     
  8. technosapien

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    First, let me preface this by saying, you will no doubt do excellently in whatever you choose to tackle. And second, I know the example below is not for an entry-level position.

    That being said, one of my best friends recently went to a job interview at which he spent an engaging and very positive 5 hours with the techs and managers, for an IT-related field in which he has years of experience, and lots of knowledge, a drive to learn more, great personality, etc.

    They did NOT hire him, because the other candidate had a few more years' experience. He was told if they could hire 2 people, he would have been next.

    Sometimes, experience really does matter, so if you're up against experienced applicants, keep in mind you'll have to pull out all stops to win that job. Don't mean to be a wet blanket, just a dose of reality.

    My friend did indeed get hired by the next company he interviewed with, and he now works for the company that owns/runs Openband's backbone. :) I told him if anything else happens to our internets, I'm coming after him personally! I'm sure he's really scared.

    Also, connections like redon1's offer are invaluable when getting into this kind of work... it's how I got into healthcare IT, and probably how many others did it too. Networking and who you know is often just as important or moreso as what you know.

    Best of luck! Don't forget, research the companies you interview at, and be ready to answer the hard questions, like how many quarters would it take to stack up to the height of the Empire State Building.

    (I'm not kidding, a friend of mine had to field that one once....)
     
  9. polar8825

    polar8825 Human Propulsion Expert

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    Techno,

    Thanks for the kind words! Positive feedback such as this only helps to bolster my resolve and enthusiasm. :)

    And I know what you mean about hanging in there. It seems to me that perserverance is a characteristic that is absolutely necessary when job hunting. It's funny how the right things seem to happen at the right time -- even being laid off. ;)


    Polar
     

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