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Please don't tell me to slow down when you don't have a speedometer.

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by BzyCookn, Sep 24, 2008.

  1. Earl4

    Earl4 New Member

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    Gotta love V-DOT's bastardization of the state code...

    "Bicyclists cannot ride more than two or more abreast on highways."

    Also, anyone who takes their family bicycle riding on a public roadway, and expect not to encounter speeders is a bit naive. If the OP was not driving the speed limit while passing some cyclists and still attracted the wrath of a cyclist -- the cyclist was acting like a fool.
     
  2. krmckee

    krmckee Member

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    When I was little my father always taught me to stay off the road - that streets were for cars, sidewalks were for people.....

    When I was a young teenager and new driver he always told me to slow down especially in neighborhoods - no matter how slow you drive, the driver is always at fault. He also tried to explain then the guilt and grief associated with hitting a person.....

    So it really goes both ways, right? Keep your kids out of the streets. The street is not a playgorund. This neighborhood is filled with wonderful pathways and parks. If you're driving, slow down - even if needed below the speed limits, you don't want to spend your entire life living with the guilt of having hurt someone unecessarily....
     
  3. NYfinest01

    NYfinest01 New Member

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    I really wanted to keep to myself about this subject but after a recent situation I just wanted to share my few thoughts about this:

    I'm sorry but if you realize that speeding is an obvious problem in Southern Walk then instead of sitting outside and yelling at everyone going 20+ (Yes, I've gotten yelled at for doing 20!) wouldn't the smart and safe thing to is either A) Don't let your kids ride their bikes/play in the streets or B) Take your kids to a PLAYGROUND to run around ?

    I don't know about you, but as a child I was NEVER allowed to play in the street especially without adult supervision. And I must say I see a lot of kids running around Southern Walk without any supervision - just freely running in the street. I've been in many situations were I've had to come to a complete stop and wait for the parents to realize "Oh, my kids in the middle of the road I should get him". That should NEVER happen. Now as a responsible driver I was well aware of my surroundings while driving but I don't beleive I (or anyone) should have to drive 5mph just so parents in Southern Walk can let their kid(s) use the streets as their playground. Thats why we have backyards.
     
  4. T8ergirl

    T8ergirl New Member

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    EXACTLY. I had an encounter at the end of the summer with a woman who had placed one of those stupid little kid signs with the flag in the middle of Milford Dr.---a skinny little road on which two cars can BARELY pass one another when a third car is parked on the road. The day before the sign had been out there and there was a car parked on the side of the road. The placement of the sign made it such that you basically had to come to a complete stop in order to negotiate your way between the sign and the car. On that day I stopped and asked the three kids who WERE PLAYING IN THE STREET to move the sign so that I could pass. The next day it was there again and the woman was sitting in her driveway. I rolled down my window and asked her if it was her sign. She said it was and I asked her to please not put it in the road. She told me that she wanted it in the road because her kids were playing and people speed down the road all the time (which I totally believe.) I told her that I was sorry but that putting that sign in the middle of the road was no solution and (I don't remember her exact words) she basically said tough cookies, she would do what she wanted to do-she was nice enough though. I promptly went home and called the Loudoun County Sherriff's office, and I've never seen the sign again.

    T8ertot isn't allowed off the white apron of the road. But I'll tell you its a constant struggle because pretty much all of the kids around us play out there and I hate being the psycho-mom. Our street really isn't a street that goes to anywhere so its really quiet and in a weaker moment you could probably convince me that playing something out there MIGHT be okay if parents are around. But to let your kids play on Milford, or worse, on Windover right near the corner of Village, is just insane.

    And while I'm on the subject of that particular location (Windover/Village) I have to just add a begging, pleading request that those parents get those kids out of the street there. There is a HUGE greenspace right across the street yet nearly every day little little kids are playing in the street. Mark my words--one of them is going to get hurt by a car turning left off of Village. A driver cannot see them until 1/2 way through the turn.
     
  5. shim

    shim shim

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    Not Your Finest One,

    Imagine the horror and inconvenience of having to drive your Lexus 5mph for less than a mile to your Luxurious home. You're right, that's way too much to ask. Who needs kids playing freely? Your time is far more valuable. :screwy:
     
  6. BzyCookn

    BzyCookn New Member

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    Shim, you must really be insecure to think that anyone with a different opinion than you must obviously drive an expensive car and lives in a luxurious home. Seems like you have deeper issues even not related to the subject matter of this thread.

    I'm out.
     
  7. Brassy

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    Oh please let's tap down the nastiness! The fact of the matter is that no matter where you live. speed is an issue in this area. When I grew up in Illinois, we generally had larger back yards and houses weren't set right near the street. A road cut right through to another main street, but we didn't move to the street until teenagers playing softball, and always moved off the road as a car approached - always at the posted speed. People seem to be in such a rush now. That is sad.

    More alarming to me was when my kids were baby pool age and I'd sit right at the edge of the pool, while all the mothers in their lounge chairs chatted away oblivious to there kids. One time I saw a kid who was maybe 15 months in a small tube flip over and they couldn't get back up. that same day, a few minutes later a 2 yr old slipped and went under and didn't come back up. If I hadn't been sitting at the edge of the baby pool being the ONLY PARENT WHO SEEMED TO DESERVE A KID!!!...Those kids would for sure be dead.

    So let's all take the time we need to get to places. Try not to be enraged by people who speed by you, cut you off, don't do the speed limit on a street. You can always call the sheriff's office and they can help.

    For the parents that think it's OK for the kids to play in the street...well i think if you are in a cul-de-sac that it is better...but sometimes,even then, too many cars are parked in the street and you cannot see the kids. So I always drive slowly into them as well. However. Putting a kids at play sign in the street is not a good idea. Better the parent be outside actually watching their kids play and staying near the road to make sure they don't go out there or grab the ball or whatever that goes into the street themselves. We often took our kids to Dinosaur park.

    Nobody wants to hit a child, and I believe that most of us are all vigilant. We know what time of day kids are most likely to be out.
     
  8. serendipity

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    Wow. Initially, you admonish people to ease up on the "nastiness" and then you remark that because others didn't parent the way you did (sitting right on the edge of the pool like a "good" mom) you were the only one that seemed "to deserve a kid"! I think this comment was over the line. You can chat with a friend and still be mindful of your kids without being right on top of them. There are many ways to parent "right". We need to support one another--there's too much out there already. Not put each other down or say they don't deserve their child. Too harsh.
     
  9. BzyCookn

    BzyCookn New Member

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    Very well said, Serendipity. I think your comment should sum up this thread nicely, but of course there will be 20 more posts, again, stating the obvious.
     
  10. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    the OBVIOUS? I dunno Bzy- it's a stretch to say that "it's wrong/dangerous to speed in a residential neighborhood" is obvious, that "unattended young children playing in the street is a bad idea" is obvious, that "extra vigilance should be used when we DO see kids riding bikes or playing near the road- attended or unattended-" is obvious...

    it think these are foreign points that must be driven home with a sledgehammer b/c some people can't come to these conclusions on their own... what planet are YOU from that these are simple concepts that don't require hundreds of opinions and posts about? i may want to move there- what's the speed limit? lol

    ( insert heavy sarcasm emoticon here!) ;)
     
  11. BzyCookn

    BzyCookn New Member

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    I don't need anyone to drive a point home to me that has been written on 5 pages. It's simple:

    1 - Watch your kids, at all times, no matter what.

    2 - Don't drive in the middle of a road and yell at drivers to slow down when they have to drive around you, your kids, parked cars, and oncoming traffic, particularly when they're already driving well below the speed limit.

    I was the one who originally posted this thread, and have been amazed at all of the bored and bitter folks, who obviously have nothing better to do than argue about yes, THE OBVIOUS. See points above.

    This is ridiculous!!!
     
  12. shim

    shim shim

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    BZY, I thought you were out, yet you continue to drone on.

    Shim
     
  13. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    what's ridiculous is that you didn't get that i was actually SUPPORTING your statement under the guise of heavy sarcasm...

    guess i should have been more obvious. lol

    lighten up francis- your point IS obvious, but droning on and on is what this board is and always will be about. keeps us from boring our family and live and in person friends with it.... :)
     
  14. BzyCookn

    BzyCookn New Member

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    Hey sargeant, I did get your point, and I'm not aiming what I wrote at you. This IS ridiculous. It's beating a dead horse six feet into the ground. It's people spending time arguing about the same thing, over and over again. You don't find that ridiculous? I find myself to be foolish for even responding to any of this.
     
  15. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    i am guilty of contributing to what i also consider foolishness. demote me to beat cop- i don't deserve the seargent credentials. :)

    and your post came directly after mine, and addressed my "drive the point home" comment. i made a connection- if wrong- oops.

    sorry- i need to go stalk a political thread now.

    you know this thread WAS dead for awhile... looks like we breathed life back into it- sigh. i'm out.
     
  16. Ozgood

    Ozgood Not a space alien

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    <muttering heard from the horse>

    I'm not dead yet!
     
  17. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    Sounds like a great opportunity to introduce a new 'Smilie' to our gallery on these forums. Ladies and gentlemen, may I now present, the Beating a Dead Horse Smilie!

    :deadhorse:
     
  18. mrdoctor

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  19. redon1

    redon1 aka Aphioni

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    this should automatically be applied to any thread with more than 100 posts, or to any post containing the words speed, hospital, election, INOVA, BRMC, HCA, tax and my personal fave- TROLL.
     
  20. shim

    shim shim

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    Ozzie,

    Great post, nicely done, very humerous. That makes you 1 for 500. Keep it up, you're on a roll now.
     

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