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Ryan Rd and Evergreen Mills - road closed

Discussion in 'General Chat Forum' started by eam, Mar 16, 2007.

  1. eam

    eam New Member

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    If anyone commutes home this way...

    Local authorities are on the scene of two crashes that have caused two roadways to be shutdown. Elk Like Road near the intersection of Elk Lick Place in the Route 50 corridor is closed in both directions due to a two vehicle crash.

    Another crash on Evergreen Mills Road at Ryan Road in the Ashburn area is closed due to a serious car crash. Evergreen Mills is closed between The Woods Road and Route 772.

    Motorists are advised that some roadways remain treacherous due to today's inclement weather. Please drive carefully.

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  2. Lee

    Lee Permanent Vacation

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    Yep I have seen this coming. Not just bad weather but a two lane road with fairly high speeds and a lot of new development is going to make this one of the deadliest roads now and the future in eastern Loudoun. The developers should have been made to make this a 4 lane divided road upfront. I used to enjoy driving evergreen years ago now I avoid it at all costs.

    Lee j
     
  3. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

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    The crash on Evergreen Mills Rd killed one teen. There were four in the car and it was involved in an accident with a construction vehicle.
     
  4. Charlotte

    Charlotte New Member

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    I am saddened to hear there was a fatality. Ashburn has lost so many teenagers to tragedy in the past 4-5 years - so hard on the families and friends, schools and everyone.
     
  5. Lee

    Lee Permanent Vacation

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    The teenage deaths by car seems related to the lack of improved roads.

    Similar to another high growth area I lived in northwest Houston. This area reminds a lot of Houston back then with terrible roads and high growth. Lot of teenage deaths.

    Where I went to high School TJ in north Dallas another high growth area, but all the roads were built before development and they were mostly six lane Boulevards very nice at least back then and the amount of kids killed in car accidents seemed much less.

    Just my opinion but there seems to be a relationship between improved roads and accidents especially among the teens. Believe me the problems with Evergreen are just beginning. Belmont is another dangerous rd but not near the entrances to development that we are going to see on Evergreen, probably because of the reservoir and quarry.

    Lee j
     
  6. VAluvr

    VAluvr New Member

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    Very sad!! As mentioned, roads have a lot to do with teenage deaths. Although, in my opinion they need to start enforcing the law about how many minors are allowed to ride with a teenage driver. The more kids that get into the car, the more distractions. Only one minor is allowed, unless it is a sibling.
     
  7. Charlotte

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    Actually - and I don't agree with this - a driver who has held their license for one year or who has turned 18 may carry up to 3 unrelated passengers under the age of 18, but no more. The news said that the driver was 18, so she would have been within the law, and was not speeding but was driving too fast for road conditions.

    Something that maybe DMV needs to rethink, although I think they did change it within the last year or so, or since my kids got their licenses.
     
  8. jjenkins

    jjenkins New Member

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    having more rules and regulations won't help, teaching kids responsibility is where the problem lies.
     
  9. Silence Dogood99

    Silence Dogood99 New Member

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    Given the extremely high accident rate among teens in their first year of driving, does anyone think that warrants raising the driving age to 17? I imagine it is a combination of inexperience (lack of judgment, timing, speed, control, experience in reading traffic patterns) and teenage impulsivity.

    I know my son will NOT be allowed in a car with more than one other teenager. It's just too dangerous around here with this traffic.
     
  10. VAluvr

    VAluvr New Member

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    Everything said here is true. It's just such a shame that kids lose their lives just when they are starting off on their own. My son will be driving this year and I am probably going to have to be put on meds!! We're going to take it slow, he's only going to be allowed to drive to and from a certain point and no passengers. AND he's not allowed to ride with someone either. I did the same for my daughter, she's 24, and she did great.
     
  11. Silence Dogood99

    Silence Dogood99 New Member

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    Way to go, VAluvr. I like your common sense plan and how you are making your son see that it is a privilege and responsibility to drive.

    I just showed this whole thread to my teenage son. As much as he loves cars (and I do let him drive in big, empty parking lots even though he's a couple years away from driving age), even he has said in his rational teen moments that he WANTS some restrictions because he knows it's dangerous.

    I told him I would remind him of these confessions in a couple years when he is begging/arguing with me to have carte blanche with a car. Not going to happen.

    I feel genuine sorrow for this girl's family who just lost a young daughter they had probably put so much love and time into, on the cusp of getting ready to make her own life. Very tragic.
     
  12. afgm

    afgm Ashburn Farm Resident

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    I would rephrase:

    having more rules and regulations won't help, teaching kids responsiblity is where the opportunity lies.

     
  13. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    By your logic.. any rural part of the country must be experiencing tons of teen deaths!

    While great parkways would help.. these are not overly dangerous roads that are being neglected causing accidents. These are accidents or people causing accidents.
     
  14. Silence Dogood99

    Silence Dogood99 New Member

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    Good drivers on snowy roads = accidents

    Inexperienced drivers on snowy roads = even more accidents, sometimes tragic
     
  15. Lee

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    Well lets see, two lane roads with too high of speed limits, no shoulders, no center island only 2 lanes not at least four, many new developments along these roads lots of construction truck traffic and regular traffic which is getting worse by the day. No traffic signals, I would say these unimproved roads allows for no mistakes from the drivers especially new drivers. although drivers should pay attention they have absolutely no margin of error. I said way back evergreen will become the road of death and it is already happening, sadly. Lets see didn't the intersection of waxpool and ashburn village dr finally take a childs death to get a four way stop sign after numerous accidents. Before that the vdot and the county wanted to study it to death, well they got their wish, unfortunately.

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  16. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    What is there.. millions of miles probably in this country that are two lane roads with no shoulders? The road is within reason. Could it be better? Sure, but not every road years ago was build to be a 2 lane road, with turn lanes, and shoulders.

    The problem isn't the road.. it's drivers.
     
  17. Lee

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    Most of those roads are country roads. Evergreen is now a urban road and should be improved as such. Until then there are going to be many horrific accidents. The developers should of paid for evergreen widening before they were allowed to develop. All development should be tied to road improvements whether they are by right or not.

    So what are you saying that we must endure many deaths especially from teenagers because they must drive on substandard roads and huge profits for the developers are more important then the lives of the residents of this county or any other county?????

    I bet if you lost one of your children you would have a different point of view.

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  18. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    I wouldn't be blaming the county/state for an accident.

    I'm just sick of all this blaming everyone else. Take some god damn self-responsibility.
     
  19. sharse

    sharse TeamDonzi rocks!!

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    I think it's some where in the middle. I've been driving for 20+ years and have never had an accident. But Belmont Ridge and roads like it scare the crud out of me because they're so narrow, because they're filled with dump trucks, and who knows who else. I've never had an accident on one of those roads, but I also avoid them when possible because I can see that they're more dangerous than, say, Claiborne. I'd MUCH rather drive Claiborne from 7 down into Broadlands than Belmot Ridge, for obvious reasons. Even the BEST of drivers can be rammed by an out of control truck or car. And I'd bet a dollar to a donut that same accident wouldn't happen on Claiborne.
     
  20. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

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    Correct... instead you get hit by moronic drivers who can't figure out stop signs or traffic lights.

    Sorry, but Belmont is just like millions of miles of road in this country. Your biggest problem should be worrying about deer.

    Dump Truck drivers are probably a heck of a lot more experienced and responsible then most of the idiots on our roads here.
     

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