User Brim and the forums

Your taking it out of context boomer. The key point there is 'one more post...' because this was after you continually started threads after they were removed. You were suspended over that activity, not mentioning brim or not. Case closed.

 

Exactly, you knew what you were doing, and intentionally were trying to ignore the admin and trying to 'beat him' creating more and more threads. That's the issue, and you knew exactly what you were doing. That's why I said 'case closed'. I don't care what the topic was. Unless you want to claim you didn't create all those threads or you didn't know they were being removed (both of which are obvious) then there is no debate.

The reason this thread exists now is I argued that there should be a medium where the question of brim could be discussed. John also reviewed existing text and saw we didn't specifically have something written about discussing moderation and since we knew it would come up, he started this thread (and put specifically in the first post of this thread text about this).

We aren't hiding anything, its just not healthy to have a fire-fight everyone on the forum so any discussion on the topic has a place and a time.. this is that place.

Are we going to start a thread everytime something gets moderated? No, but if it comes up, we'll keep it contained to a specific thread/discussion. We're not going to let someone instigate by throwing the topic around the forum everywhere.

 

This is the only relevant point. You found out the admin had been deleting them, and then you continued knowing that (and you left out the email part). That is why action was taken against your account. My last comment on the subject. If you want to discuss it further, you've been given options to discuss it with the committee or board.

 

Cliff, my opinion (just my opinion.. from doing this for a long time on other forums) on the subject is the actions themselves should be 'offline', and any follow-up questions between the admins and the affected party should be offline.

However, I don't believe questions around it should not be allowed across the board. People don't like being in the dark. People should be able to use the medium we use to communicate all the time. That being said, arguing or debating the elements of the action aren't open game. You want to know what happened - here's what happened. Instigating all over the forum, dropping backhanded remarks about actions in other threads, etc - not tolerable. Want to argue its not fair, argue it wasn't this, but that, 'bring back sparky!', blah blah blah... come to the appropriate forum to discuss that. That is the regular meetings of the committee, and escalation to the board if you are not satisfied with resolution with the committee. That is the format used for other areas (like modifications, etc) I don't see why this should be different.

That's my .02 on the topic. We've obviously been discussing this within the comittee as well. We can start a new thread on this if you like.. but I couldn't do so in a method that copied your post without moving it from this thread, so I didn't move it.

 

For the last time, Homer, access to these forums is a PRIVILEGE, NOT A RIGHT. That was iterated to you directly from the President of the Broadlands HOA. Why do you keep making statements that folks, including representatives of the HOA itself, have repeatidly told you was wrong/inaccurate? This very point was even reiterated at tonight's HOA meeting. Please, if you have issues with this fact, talk to the HOA and stop posting your personal opinion as fact regarding this point.

 

This evening, myself, Hornerjo and Flynnibus (the 3 admins/moderators of the forums and TC members) attended the monthly HOA meeting. Here is the outcome of what happened during the portion of the meeting related to the forums:

1. Boomertsfx was present and provided some constructive comments. The TC then met personally with Boomertsfx and I believe that I can safely say we are all on the same 'page' now. Both sides shook hands and listened to each other's concerns and apologized. Boomertsfx, if I'm incorrect here, please contact me so that we can make sure we've resolved our differences.
2. The issue regarding Brim's 'muting' was brought up. A few users/residents came by in support of keeping Brim out of the forums. I believe 2 users were present in support of Brim, including Boomertsfx. While a few people at the meeting made it clear to the Board that they believed Brim should not be reinstated, the HOA President (Cliff), after numerous communications with Brim, indicated that Brim agreed to make his postings less 'inflamatory' and that he should be given a second chance. Brim's account will be 'unmuted' tonight and if he breaks a rule in the future, his account will be terminated immediately.
3. It was brought up by a developer member of the HOA that we should add more rules to the site. They will be providing the TC a list of rules used on 'stricter' forums in another Van Metre community and we will see how we can integrate the lists into a more robust one in the near future.
4. The Board reiterated that ALL discussions related to admin actions (suspensions, bans, moderations, etc) be taken offline and not directly discussed on the forums. The forum rules will be revised to make this clearer. The process for users wanting to discuss administrative actions is to contact the moderators/admins/Technology Committee directly and if they do not agree with the reason(s) given to them, they can then contact the HOA and ask to have their issue escalated/resolved by a member of the HOA Board or at a monthly HOA meeting.
5. On a negative side, the fact that this issue snowballed into what it became today, our forums have gathered a lot more visibility at the Board level, especially on the developer side. It was brought up multiple times by the developer as to why we allow non-Broadlands residents access to the forums. Although resident members of the HOA Board and the TC do NOT agree with closing the forums for access only by residents, since it was now brought up, we must look into how this could be implemented. This is NOT to say it will be implemented; we simply need to look into the possibilty at this time and be able to implement such a restriction in the future if the HOA instructs us to do so.
6. No residents attending the meeting came to provide the TC and/or the HOA with their issues regarding specific rules of the forums or issues they had with the way the TC is running the forums.

On behalf of the Technology Committee (TC), I would like to thank everyone (on both sides of the issue) who participated in tonight's discussions. I believe it was constructive and we made good headway to get these recent issues behind us and begin moving us forward again.