Utterly Unreasonable and Irrational Modifications Subcommittee

Maybe it would be useful to see some examples of what IS an approved enclosure.

Obviously, a few people on my street thought the Suncast enclosure was good enough, for even our exalted HOA. After all, SunCast makes a large percentage of the small storage sheds, hose reels, and other garden enclosures used in our community.

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I'm not the original poster. That's not my screen.

I'm just someone with questions.

 

I'm going to hold you to it

I'll go break out my level and T-square right now....

 

The Modification Subcommittee (which I sit on also) does not have the authority to allow trash cans to stay outside. Niether does the Board of Directors. When the community was incorporated it was written into the documents which take the majority of the enitre community to vote for a change.

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Oops. Wrong use of words there for me. I meant the HOA as a whole including the "regular" residents. You know....whatever process it takes to change a covenant.

 

Sorry for the off-topic, but does this apply to back yards that aren't fenced in? I know the front yards must be kept up, but I've seen a couple of unfenced back yards that haven't been mowed all year, one with bricked patio that's covered with weeds growing out of the cracks.

 

I'm not on the board and I disagree that vinyl should be allowed unless it is stained to look like wood. I thought the idea was to camoflage the object not hi-lite it. You should have gone through the approval process but instead you post here and

 

We already went through months of approval process, and got rejected. We are in the appeals stage now...... please read from the begining.

As for the vinyl, it is the same color as the house. This is why the community decks are allowed to be white (I believe). Any stain would certianly contrast with the house.

 

Yeah. That needs to be leveled out. Well, it's not approved anyway.

But I would level it with dirt/sand and put down some cheap concrete pavers. At least that's what I would do if there was no HOA involved with approvals and such.

 

:agree:

 

If they go by written rules then it's fine.

It's the case by case process that gets people confused.

It's easy enough to say follow these written rules. If it's not on there then it's not approved. No exceptions. But apparently it doesn't work that way. That's what gets people wondering.

BTW - I haven't dealt with any of these committees, but from what I'm reading this is how it works. If I'm wrong please let me know since I haven't personally gone through the process, but I'm sure I will in the future.

 

According to the design guidelines for trash enclosures, "The enclosure must be painted or stained to match the siding"

Are you saying that your siding is white?

 

Neighbor... I am a little surprised at the rhetoric and tone that you have used throughout this thread. I have respected many of your posts before and in an friendly way I am just trying to say that perhaps cooler heads would prevail?

I do not claim to have a handle on the whole situation, but in my many dealings with the Committee over the years - they have been exactly the opposite of "Utterly unreasonable and Irrational". I think you seem to be overreacting? You seem to be very passionate about this issue but I think you lost sight of the intent behind our guidelines and how the process is SUPPOSED to work.

You seem to be just hurting your chances of resolving this is a constructive way (my opinion) and I would also urge you to keep working at this because my hunch is that this is also a reasonably big issue in our community... Perhaps better guidance can be provided in the future to help homeowners with this particular modification?

 

You are probably right; I probably got a little over zealous. I will try to tone down future posts. Maybe the proper thing to do is edit my previous posts. Thanks for the constructive criticism.

 

Nieghbor - I am also on the committee and volunteer on others. I assure you that "We" strictly follow the rules and guidelines. In some cases we will review and "suggest" updates to some guidelines.

The Modifications Subcom - meets twice a month (during "busy" season) and reviews hundreds of applications. If you or others do not agree with the decisions, I urge you appeal to the HOA BoD.

However to read OPEN criticism, such as yours is rather dis-heartening and makes me wonder why I spend my free time to serve our community.

The members of this Com as well as the HOA BoD V O L U N T E E R their free time (time away from their families, hobbies etc) to make our community a safe and enjoyable place to call home.

I agree with Zeratul (and thanks' Z for your post) and I appreciate you acknowledging his suggestions. I would like to add one more, if you do not like the process, please consider V O L U N T E E R-ing your FREE TIME to serve on a or THE committee.

 

Yes.

 

And does it apply to backyards that ARE fenced in (but viewable by the immediate neighbors)?

 

Please, can anyone post pictures/ website/ brand information on what an approved trash enclosure or shed looks like? I want one but have no idea what will be approved, even after reading the hoa guidelines section on such enclosures.

Thanks!

 

DITTO!

 

An example of an approvable trash enclosure.

For the record...The denial letter which I sent to the homeowner also included the following paragraph; "The Modifications Subcommittee will evaluate enclosures constructed of vinyl, based on the same requirements as vinyl fencing, on a case by case basis."
Therefore, vinyl or similar composite materials, TREX for example, are not excluded as an approvable material.

 

Ah, don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant!